Create a Wrestler option must have ...

[rushydarabbit]

For the last 20 years wrestling games (Wrestlemania 2000) have all pretty much had some kind of "create a wrestler" mode. This option can determine whether a user buys or doesn't buy a wrestling game. I'm assuming that the developers realize this and are either directly putting a CAW option in or will add one later.

With that assumption I will give my "expert" (i have been creating, modding, texture editing wrestlers in wrestling/fighting games since the options were made available in the 1990's) opinion on what a CAW option "must have."

Features:

- Custom Entrance Music
- Custom Logos (with this option you can make any wrestler you can dream of)
- Custom Title Belts
- A wide variety of moves to use in creating the wrestlers. (users will always want more.. haha)
- A wide variety of entrance animations to use in creating the wrestlers

*** If you don't have these what I would could "must have" options in a CAW feature you will be flooded with requests/demands to add them. ***

[Retrosoft Studios]

All valid points. We want to add a CAW mode but just don't have the budget to do one right now. We have to crawl before we can walk and we are hyper focused on making sure we have a solid base of core gameplay. Of the items you listed, we just do not have enough time and money right now to add all the needed animations to do a CAW mode justice. But we hope to make a very fun polished game and continue to grow the game with a combination of additional free and paid content. But we do completely agree with your feature list and I have a bunch of others I would like to add on top of that.

[rushydarabbit]

Originally posted by Retrosoft Studios:

All valid points. We want to add a CAW mode but just don't have the budget to do one right now. We have to crawl before we can walk and we are hyper focused on making sure we have a solid base of core gameplay. Of the items you listed, we just do not have enough time and money right now to add all the needed animations to do a CAW mode justice. But we hope to make a very fun polished game and continue to grow the game with a combination of additional free and paid content. But we do completely agree with your feature list and I have a bunch of others I would like to add on top of that.

Ok, this puts you guys in a tough spot. You don't have a big roster of wrestlers that can draw people in and no CAW option to allow users to make their own wrestlers. So basically people have to like the wrestlers that are in the game and/or be a big fan of classic wrestling games like WWF Wrestlefest. Interesting but I will buy it no matter what like I said before as I buy pretty much every wrestling game created.

I just hope that you get around to adding the CAW feature somewhere down the line even if it's released as a dlc.

Excelsior!

[Retrosoft Studios]

I understand what you are saying. " be a big fan of classic wrestling games like WWF Wrestlefest." That pretty much sums up why I am personally making the game.

Based on my last year of interaction I think there is a pretty big audience for this alone. But don't get me wrong I would love to add more names and a CAW mode at some point.

[rsws Brett ☮]

I just popped in here to check on if there would be a CAW mode, and while I came in wanting one, I'm not disappointed in the answer given here. Work on the gameplay first. There are already so many wrestling games that do character creation so well, but it's a bit hard for me personally to find a lot of modern wrestling games that are genuinely addicting anymore.
Honestly, if this game plays well, I won't even necessarily be asking for a CAW mode. I've got Fire Pro, I'll live... lol

[Shadow Master]

If I may compare another Wrestling title on Steam, it is interesting to note that Fire Pro Wrestling World has been referred to as "the modern day WrestleFest" graphics wise.

Even with Fire Pro's bigger budget and franchise recognition, the early access version on Steam wasn't backed by an actual Wrestling promotion. Instead, players had to create their favorite Wrestlers themselves using the numerous edit pieces in Fire Pro's Create-A-Wrestler mode.

Within days, the Fire Pro workshop was filling up with many recognizable faces from every era of Wrestling and beyond.

In the long run, giving players the tools to create their favorite Wrestlers will surely cut back on posts asking for __insert Wrestler____ and save plenty of $$$ on licensing fees. Allowing Retrosoft the ability to focus their budget on other exciting features.

P.S., it's nice to see a lot of my Fire Pro peers in this thread.

[Retrosoft Studios]

I love Firepro as well. Our game plays more like Wrestlefest. We are more concerned with our gameplay being a throw back to arcade fun. When we prove that we can make a fun wrestling game, we will see what we can do next as far as adding features. Firepro has long history of great creation tools. Maybe we will get there some day, but we need to start somewhere.

[El Setell]

Some of these people should be beaten. That's like man i bought super mario brothers but cant change his hat. Prolly bash your head against the screen until the sprites scramble themselves and there ya go.

"The crows seemed to be calling his name, thought Caw"
- Jack Handey

[rsws Brett ☮]

Originally posted by jasonsettle187:

Some of these people should be beaten. That's like man i bought super mario brothers but cant change his hat. Prolly bash your head against the screen until the sprites scramble themselves and there ya go.

"The crows seemed to be calling his name, thought Caw"
- Jack Handey

Uh, dude, pretty sure you can change his hat. You just press select on the world map.
So Super Mario has an edit mode, but this won't? Yikes.
;p

[haverespect]

Did anybody else read this in Yoda's voice?

[rsws Brett ☮]

wat

[beer is good for migraines]

bruh

[rushydarabbit]

Originally posted by Retrosoft Studios:

I understand what you are saying. " be a big fan of classic wrestling games like WWF Wrestlefest." That pretty much sums up why I am personally making the game.

Based on my last year of interaction I think there is a pretty big audience for this alone. But don't get me wrong I would love to add more names and a CAW mode at some point.

Now that the game has been released I guess you see what I meant about having a CAW mode. Some people just won't buy the game unless they can create their own wrestlers. You will hear a lot of whining about this.

"IF" you do decide to add a CAW feature to the game the easiest way to do it without making a big CAW mode in game feature is by allowing the editors access to the in game wrestler sprites (and moves) for editing and renaming the wrestler. I'm sure modders will find a way to do that soon anyway if they haven't already.

Basically just allow everyone access to the game files and allow extra space in the game for adding new wrestlers.

Most people will shut up and stop whining when they see how much work it is to edit all of those wrestler sprites. Well.. then they will cry about having a workshop where they can download the edits of others.

A headache but will lead to more sales.

Thanks for making/releasing the game.

EXCELSIOR!

[Retrosoft Studios]

Like I said, I am not against it, But I feel like licensing more wrestlers and increasing the roster that way in the way to go at least initially.

[choolan01]

Stay the course, Retrosoft. Fire Pro Wrestling World is my favorite game of all time. I put over 400 hours into the move creation tool last year alone.

That being said, this game is providing something completely different for me. The Easter Eggs. The detailed stages. The fact that every wrestler has like 5-6 unique signature moves in addition to their finisher. The commentary. The 10 pounds of gold mode. This game is more to me like an arcade fighting game than a wrestling sandbox sim. Nobody asks for a create a fighter in fighting games. I’d way rather you continue to acquire new roster members and make them unique and detailed the way you have been. This is what will keep me coming back for more - not a creation suite that will never be able to give me that fix the way fire pro does.

As a parallel, I would rather Need for Speed continue to focus on addictive arcade fun as opposed to trying to make it like Gran Turismo.

[beer is good for migraines]

Smartest and easiest way is release source code and let the modders make a nice CAW mode that way.