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opjose Sep 18, 2020 @ 9:31pm
Little NavMap 2.6 Beta is out...
Last edited by opjose; Oct 13, 2020 @ 11:25am
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opjose Sep 18, 2020 @ 9:38pm 
Dump the Zip file folder into a new location (installer comes later) and make a shortcut to the executable, preferably in on of your \Program Files\ locations.

Unblock the EXE (no signature yet)...

It will auto-detect file paths, but make sure that you then select the MSFS2020 database and "load" the Navdata from the menu.
Spikenard Sep 19, 2020 @ 2:57pm 
Previous version worked as well. Just needed to install the FSX simconnect but that's not needed anymore. Even if you don't use it while flying, it's really valuable for the bush trips. MUCH more so than the near useless VFR map in MSFS. You can open the bush trip flight plans directly since littlenavmap is what was used to create them in the first place. The only frustrating thing is that while it will load them and show all the points, You won't get flight plan elevation/profile data since asobo thought it'd be great to use a dataset that includes airports that don't actually officially exist. But since the GPS coords are there too you can still see the whole route. You can follow along if you connect to the sim or just use it as a map reference to not "cheat" the system :) Or even print it out and strap in onto a knee board like the good ol' days :) https://i.imgur.com/dLcielB.png (first leg of the nevada bush trip)
Last edited by Spikenard; Sep 19, 2020 @ 3:14pm
HoloByteus Sep 20, 2020 @ 10:23pm 
I get profile data, although I went right to downloading the Global Elevation Data from the link in the setting under options/cache and files.
Last edited by HoloByteus; Sep 20, 2020 @ 10:24pm
Spikenard Sep 21, 2020 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by WarCrime:
I get profile data, although I went right to downloading the Global Elevation Data from the link in the setting under options/cache and files.

There is already DEM data in Littleavmap without needing to download the offline data. You can get elevation profile data. Works fine if you do your own flight plans. But you can't get it for the nevada bush trip because Asobo uses data that includes airports that don't exist in real life. Little navmap won't show profile/elevation data for a trip that doesn't start at a real airport. Take the very first airport on the nevada trip. Yes, the runway exists and you can see it on both bing and google but it's private property and not an FAA recognized field. In addition, the airport designation they use for it, O64, *is* an faa recognize airport but is a helipad in Oklahoma and has been for 26 years. For the nevada trip there are nine invalid airports kicked back by littlenavmap. Two are heliports in completely different states. The one exception on the list that is a legit airport is 88NV which is the Black Rock airport they only activate for 13 days a year for Burning Man. But the important thing is the flight plans will still load since they have the gps coords so they're still usable in littlenavmap. Just can't see the elevation profile for the trip since the start and end points have to be airports. This is what it will show https://i.imgur.com/qEWVKCp.png

The airport data that asobo uses is so inconsistent it's a bit strange. They have airports that are closed in the game. They have airports that haven't existed for 20 years in the game. Which is likely the case for the fields in the bush trips. Some might have existed at some point in the past. They also have airports that have *never* existed in the game (KTUY in Tulsa. That designation has never been used that I could find. The airport that used to be there was the old North Tulsa airport but it has never been KTUY). And they have a lot of smaller class golf uncontrolled airports with ATC that tries to communicate with you. Navdata in general is a mess in the sim which is a shame since it's all publicly available data

But.... None of that changes that LittleNavMap is a pretty valuable tool for flight simming in general.

Last edited by Spikenard; Sep 21, 2020 @ 4:52pm
HoloByteus Sep 22, 2020 @ 9:12am 
That's disappointing, apparently there's a performance benefit to using the offline data and 900m accuracy is good enough, I'll take any LNM perf improvements I can get.
Last edited by HoloByteus; Sep 22, 2020 @ 10:11am
PKmono_pai Oct 11, 2020 @ 2:27pm 
very good, thanks for the tip, already installed and works well.
regi00be Oct 13, 2020 @ 2:53am 
Wow! It seems to be an amazing tool! I've just tested it "offline" to prepare a flight plan and everything was there (airports, STAR, SID, Airways...). Excellent job! I'll keep an eye on it.
Thank you very much!!
PKmono_pai Oct 13, 2020 @ 1:02pm 
the only bad thing is that AIRAC is out of date, using the MSF base, only for those who have a Navigrafh subscription is fully updated.
opjose Oct 13, 2020 @ 5:18pm 
That is not really a Little Nav Map issue.

You can import the MSFS2020 data, use the included data, or in a best case use an updated AIRAC via your subscription.
CFL Oct 13, 2020 @ 8:34pm 
Originally posted by opjose:
You can import the MSFS2020 data, use the included data

If I import the MSFS data with "Load Scenery Library" and choose the option "Do not use navigraph data", I still miss all the SIDs and STARs MSFS has.
Am I doing something wrong?
opjose Oct 13, 2020 @ 9:06pm 
From the developer:

Known Issues

MSFS

Little Navmap cannot read SID and STAR from MSFS. Documentation about MSFS format changes are needed in SDK.

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The SDK is woefully lacking.
CFL Oct 13, 2020 @ 9:23pm 
Thank you very much for your help!
regi00be Oct 15, 2020 @ 4:59am 
I have a problem to run Little NavMap on a remote computer.
I have a main computer with MSFS 2020 running and Little NavConnect (2.6.1) and it says "connecté to a simulator".
On another computer, i have LittleNavMap (2.6.1) running and connected to the main computer as it Little NavMap says 'it is connected to a simulator or Little NavConnect. Prepare....'

I have loaded a flight plan in MSFS, and I m ready to take off. But on the second computer, I see nothing.

I have dowloaded the scenery from the main computer and it seems ok, because i see all airport...

Did i missed something?

Thanks for the help.
Schmegg Oct 15, 2020 @ 5:11am 
Couldn't get it to work either regi00be. So I'm following - hopefully someone will do a nice post describing exactly how to get this working.

In the meantime - I've been using Plan-G. Works well, though not as full featured as LNM. Also it just connects up without a Little NavConnect equivalent - just uses the MSFS2020 SimConnect that's already there.
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