HOTAS - VKB Gladiator NXT - Is the trigger analogic ?

[sheap]

I was wondering because it seems to only act as a button when fully pushed forward.
The site says "dual action trigger" but I am not sure what it means.

Thanks

[caaront]

It just works as a single button, but, if you hold in the button below on the stick with your little finger it allows each of the buttons to control a diffeerent thing.

[opjose]

MSFS has some neat HOTAS options that are not well documented.

When you go to set a button press, you can hold down TWO BUTTONS at the same time and the sim will use that as a completely different combination.

So for instance if you have a POV hat on your HOTAS, you could use the POV hat for trimming when you hold BUTTON3 and push the hat in any direction at the same time....

The same POV hat could instead pan your view when you move the hat WITHOUT BUTTON3 pressed.

I wish other programs did the same as this instantly adds far more flexibility to the programming and gives people even more choices.

[kalnaren]

Originally posted by opjose:

I wish other programs did the same as this instantly adds far more flexibility to the programming and gives people even more choices.

Most HOTAS control software will accomplish this. Most people just don't bother installing it :/

[opjose]

HOTAS control software does not work correctly with many games.

It also is often abandoned by the developers even though the hardware is fine.

By providing native support for this feature as MSFS2020 did other non HOTAS devices get the same functionality and utility.

[Sandhill]

I think no software is necessary to get 4 options out of the VKN trigger though...2 selectable (hardware) modes, and unshifted/shifted (hardware) choices, no?
That two button at a time ability sure does open a lot of flexibility to those able to remember and execute the button presses, though :)

[kalnaren]

Originally posted by opjose:

HOTAS control software does not work correctly with many games.

HOTAS control software is independent and works with nearly every game. That's the beauty of it. You set a control curve or marcro in the control software, and it works across the board, regardless of what program you run. When you get even more advanced control software like Virpil's it literally changes the EEPROM on the devices so they're sending different commands. It's physically impossible for it to "not work" in different programs.

AFAIK the only control software that isn't being developed anymore is CH Control Manager, and it still works fine.

[opjose]

Originally posted by kalnaren:

HOTAS control software is independent and works with nearly every game. That's the beauty of it. You set a control curve or marcro in the control software, and it works across the board, regardless of what program you run. When you get even more advanced control software like Virpil's it literally changes the EEPROM on the devices so they're sending different commands. It's physically impossible for it to "not work" in different programs.

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You're sorta missing the point.

By adding this functionality to the program or game itself, the multi-button pressed functionality is available to non-HOTAS setups including game controllers and other joysticks with fewer buttons and functions.

As far as HOTAS control software, control software for my older Thrustmaster equipment is no longer made nor supported for a long time. Thrustmaster abandoned it after the company shift.
Yet it all still works as HID USB devices in Windows and MSFS2020 recognizes it.

I don't have the Virpil so I can't speak to it... but at least with my Warthog setup I prefer native support so that I don't have to play around with loading up different configurations for each program I choose to run. Rather I prefer to set up the device as MSFS2020 has done and let the program or sim take care of things...

That way I can drop from MSFS2020 to a different sim and not worry about having yet another utility to load and likely to interfere with my other custom made controls, button boxes, etc.