787 Route Discontinuity

[The Equalizer]

Since the AAU2 update, I'm finding gaps on my flightplan when viewing the vfr map. Upon closer inspection, the flight computer is showing one or two waypoints under "route discontinuity". What am I doing wrong or is it a bug?

Thanks

[The Equalizer]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ★Macman★:

Just to clarify, is the Magenta Line on your PFD solid all the way even though it has a DISC?
I this is the case as that means we are too still either DELETE these USR; VECTORS; & DISCS and fly these Manually as IRL but also it may make the Route Solid when before this always gave us a Dashed-Line Route to shows this but that would not allow us to even follow any of it in previous versions of this until Deleted.

However, the 1st one is now usually a USR which we are expected to Takeoff Manually rather by with AP LNAV. It is just different and may reflect IRL and to do this wold help if we always seen a Solid Magenta Line to fly on even Manually. That just leaves us with the role of spotting these none-following Waypoints as the AP just does not follow them. Not even certain it alerts us and is catching us out on this 1st Waypoint.
The exact same happens for GA with our APPROACH MODE not being auto-Activated anymore and must be done at that time in PROCS. Else it simply carries on without any alerts. Who needs Pilots duh

This might be therefore the connection as to why you are missing Route Lines on your VFR MAP as that is maybe using the old system when you might be expecting it to reflect what you see as SOLID LINES on your PFD Route but also has HIDDEN GAPS.

You can get by simply by CLEARING ALL off these Waypoints. OR look out for them and Manually Fly them like a Pilot.

Yes the line turns magenta for all the prior waypoints to indicate its activation. It always seems to be before you expect the approach callout this happens. I tried a long haul from London to Sao Paulo yesterday and the exact same thing happened then too.

[Thogmar]

This may or may not be a route data error, sim navigation error, or user error. Particularly since you're using the World Map to create flight plans. First, stop doing that for awhile, get a SimBrief account and learn how to manually input flight plans from the flight plans that SimBrief creates. This will give you the knowledge to know why and where discontinuities should and shouldn't exist in the initial build of a flight plan. You can go back to using the World Map as you like, but you will have a better idea of what a proper flight plan should look like by using SimBrief once in awhile.

Also look up the Microsoft 787 tutorial flight document and use it in an actual flight. A little web searching will find it. It also shows you how to deal with discontinuities (both expected and errors) in flight plans.

Lastly, you seem to be familiar with the waypoints of your approaches, since you say the disconnect is just before you expect the approach callout. Well some approaches are DIRECT, with an initial waypoint that is just kind of hanging there in space, waiting for ATC to direct you toward it - There isn't actually a nav connection between this waypoint and the rest of your navigation waypoints. What happens is ATC will clear you DIRECT to that approach waypoint, at which point in the 787 you push the button next to that waypoint twice and then hit EXEC and your aircraft will then proceed to that waypoint and continue the approach.

Now you can ALSO just do this DIRECT method on your own (if you're not using ATC) whenever you want or need to. Whether its a software error or it's correct, you can always go direct to whatever waypoint you like and continue on from there. (slightly different from DELETING discontinuities, which you can also do if you like.)

[★Macman★]

The not following 1st WAYPOINT BUG is same for A32NX even though you get a SOLID MAGENTA LINE for this. Other WAYPOINTS do actually have the gaps on the PFD Route.

[The Equalizer]

I've noticed waypoint issues on almost all of the big jets but not like this. And yes, I've heard of SimBrief but I'm kind of stubborn. I'm not a hardcore simmer just casual and shouldn't see why I have to install 3rd-party software with a new account to do something the game I paid for is supposed to do?

Running this game can really be hard work and mentally exhausting at times... Sigh*

[The Equalizer]

Update: Apparently it's a bug and someone on the official forums showed me how to merge the waypoints in the FMC as a work around.

[★Macman★]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TH33QUALIZ3R:

Update: Apparently it's a bug and someone on the official forums showed me how to merge the waypoints in the FMC as a work around.

What you mean by "merge" is actually removing the one you are moving the selected one on top of. This is done for USR;VECTORS & DISCONTINUITIES and use NEXT to cycle your Pages to them all.

[The Equalizer]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ★Macman★:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TH33QUALIZ3R:

Update: Apparently it's a bug and someone on the official forums showed me how to merge the waypoints in the FMC as a work around.

What you mean by "merge" is actually removing the one you are moving the selected one on top of. This is done for USR;VECTORS & DISCONTINUITIES and use NEXT to cycle your Pages to them all.

I select the waypoints to the left and right of problematic one and hit execute?

[★Macman★]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TH33QUALIZ3R:

I select the waypoints to the left and right of problematic one and hit execute?

Just SELECT the Waypoint under the problem USR;VECTORS & DISCONTINUITY on LEFT then click above it to remove those next to them again on the LEFT.

[The Equalizer]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ★Macman★:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TH33QUALIZ3R:

I select the waypoints to the left and right of problematic one and hit execute?

Just SELECT the Waypoint under the problem USR;VECTORS & DISCONTINUITY on LEFT then click above it to remove those next to them again on the LEFT.

Okay I'll give that a look after this flight. Thanks

[The Equalizer]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thogmar:

This may or may not be a route data error, sim navigation error, or user error. Particularly since you're using the World Map to create flight plans. First, stop doing that for awhile, get a SimBrief account and learn how to manually input flight plans from the flight plans that SimBrief creates. This will give you the knowledge to know why and where discontinuities should and shouldn't exist in the initial build of a flight plan. You can go back to using the World Map as you like, but you will have a better idea of what a proper flight plan should look like by using SimBrief once in awhile.

Also look up the Microsoft 787 tutorial flight document and use it in an actual flight. A little web searching will find it. It also shows you how to deal with discontinuities (both expected and errors) in flight plans.

Lastly, you seem to be familiar with the waypoints of your approaches, since you say the disconnect is just before you expect the approach callout. Well some approaches are DIRECT, with an initial waypoint that is just kind of hanging there in space, waiting for ATC to direct you toward it - There isn't actually a nav connection between this waypoint and the rest of your navigation waypoints. What happens is ATC will clear you DIRECT to that approach waypoint, at which point in the 787 you push the button next to that waypoint twice and then hit EXEC and your aircraft will then proceed to that waypoint and continue the approach.

Now you can ALSO just do this DIRECT method on your own (if you're not using ATC) whenever you want or need to. Whether its a software error or it's correct, you can always go direct to whatever waypoint you like and continue on from there. (slightly different from DELETING discontinuities, which you can also do if you like.)

I forced myself to try SimBrief for the first time the other day in part due to your comment from weeks ago which played on my mind. It's pretty intimidating at first but when you read the manuals of the 78X and 748, boy does it add a sense of realism and depth when used in conjunction with AAU2.

Thank you!

[Master_Jedi170]

After the last update the magenta line has disappeared for me too. But I am able to bring it back on the 787 is I add a waypoint on the map. When I do that, the magenta line appears automatically.