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🥇 Xaxoon 🥇 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 2:36
Autopilot is completely broken now
For people who just want to fly a little, this won't be important. But when I want to do long-haul flights and the autopilot regularly fails, it's annoying. This not only happens with the A320, but with all airliners. I cannot say whether this is also the case with the smaller aircraft.
I don't want to use countless paid add-ons from third-party developers who are completely unknown to me just to be able to play this sim. I also think there is no add-on that fixes the broken Ai.

BUT WHAT IS IT ABOUT?

Suddenly, randomly, out of nowhere, the plane leans into the curve at a 90% angle and sinks at 6000+ feet/ min, or the plane does not follow the route but flies parallel, kilometers away, or he ignores waypoints, and similar disturbances. Such things should happen if I want to, and should be set under "Deliberate failures" in the options. But not on regular flights, over and over again. I know that the copilot has been broken since release (land-crash next to the runway, does not take off at takeoff, ignores speed alert, etc ...). But the autopilot is essential, because no pilot in the world today steers an airliner for 5+ hours by hand.

I always hope for the next patch, but somehow I don't see any progress. Except for the crash bug, which has been fixed. Which the devs previously created with the previous patch.

It would be great if the devs would finally work on it, many weeks after the release, not just doing Japan updates and similar dispensable things ...

Thank you for your attention.
最後修改者:🥇 Xaxoon 🥇; 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 3:09
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Truman4Bellic[GER] 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 3:09 
Totally agree with you.
DerMelonenMann 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 5:03 
I also have the Mach/Knots bug in the airliners... Unflyable with autothrottle...

With so many gamebreaking issues in the Sim, can we even benefit from Payware like A2A and PMDG if the barebone structure is not working ?
KWAiRT 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 5:07 
I agree and the AP sleep bug has been ignored and still remains with these NEW ap bugs
KWAiRT 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 5:08 
Modders doing a better job fixing the game too
Maki Nishikino 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 5:09 
引用自 DerMelonenMann
With so many gamebreaking issues in the Sim, can we even benefit from Payware like A2A and PMDG if the barebone structure is not working ?

They will be fixed and A2A and PMDG are working on MSFS right now. MSFS is where the money is going to be for add-on developers. I've been keeping an eye on flight sim news regarding MSFS addons and a lot is in the oven right now for the sim.
KWAiRT 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 5:10 
Even with max votes they still cant fix press any key to continue and nobody gives a frell. Then real issues get pushed under the rug with this crappy non working vote a fix political patch system ffs. JUST FIX THE BUGS do yer job!
Neo King Arthur 2020 年 10 月 15 日 上午 5:29 
引用自 Xaxoon
Suddenly, randomly, out of nowhere, the plane leans into the curve at a 90% angle and sinks at 6000+ feet/ min, or the plane does not follow the route but flies parallel, kilometers away, or he ignores waypoints, and similar disturbances.

I haven't experienced this diving bug myself, but I did see it when I watched my friend's broadcast. The only difference between our flying style is that, he climbs and descends using selected altitude modes (pull on the altitude knob with down arrow cursor). While I always fly using managed altitude mode at all times with LVL/CH indicator set to on (push on the altitude knob with the up arrow cursor).

I told him to see if he changed his flying style like I do, use managed mode at all times, and so far, he hasn't been experiencing the diving bug, like I never did since I've always been flying in managed mode all the time both for climbing and descending.

引用自 DerMelonenMann
I also have the Mach/Knots bug in the airliners... Unflyable with autothrottle...

With so many gamebreaking issues in the Sim, can we even benefit from Payware like A2A and PMDG if the barebone structure is not working ?

Is this about where in the 787 you can't switch back to knots once it's switched to mach on cruising mode? If so, it looks like it's just a display thing. You can still use autothrottle, just need to use the PFD as a reference when you're changing the airspeed knob. and keep changing them the more you descent.

But you wouldn't need to be changing them that much, since you could be on managed airspeed mode since take off. you'll only be changing to selected airspeed mode in the 787 when you capture the glideslope. Even on managed mode, the AP seems to be using IAS as the calculation base and not the mach that seems to only be for 'conversion' in the display.

I've been flying with the problematic knots/mach mode, and as long as I made adjustments to my flying style, it's still flyable until they fix it.

I think we can benefit from payware developers, since the sim only provides the simulation engine and the world, and that autopilot and flight computer behaviour seems to be aircraft specific. But I can't be sure about this.
morgita28 2020 年 10 月 15 日 下午 12:15 
same to me i cant fly any plane because of the autopilot, getting bored of the sim,i wonder has this got to do anything because it has been downloaded from steam. Excuse my ignorance.
Frost 2020 年 10 月 16 日 上午 1:59 
Totally agree with you...
Schmegg 2020 年 10 月 16 日 上午 2:22 
引用自 morgita28
same to me i cant fly any plane because of the autopilot, getting bored of the sim,i wonder has this got to do anything because it has been downloaded from steam. Excuse my ignorance.

To put your mind at ease, it's nothing to do with purchasing it from Steam. And, when you download it, regardless of where you purchased it, it comes from the Microsoft servers.

To be sure, you can check the official forums. They are similar - plenty of people there who purchased it from the Microsoft Store that are having autopilot issues.

It's a work in progress. The autopilots will get better and better as time goes on and they continue to work on it. As far as I'm concerned, autopilots just making flying MORE boring, not less. ;-)
Detective Dan 2020 年 10 月 16 日 上午 7:48 
stay away from the default 747 and a320. This day old thread is simply old news for the rest of us Check out Salty's 747 and FlyByWire's a320, both fix the autopilot greatly.

Google it to find it
HuggernautNL 2020 年 10 月 17 日 上午 9:12 
I thought it was just me being a total noob, especially with the A320 autopilot.

But you described exactly what happened to me.

The plane goes into a really sharp turn out of nowhere, starts sinking like a brick and completely ignores the flight plan.

It just happens randomly in the middle of a flight where nothing has changed, not a button or setting has been touched.

Really weird and it takes a some time of manual flying to get it back on track.

They really messed up some of the basic systems in the sim.

Makes me want to put this game down for a year and come back later.

Really not playable at the moment.

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最後修改者:HuggernautNL; 2020 年 10 月 17 日 上午 9:12
🥇 Xaxoon 🥇 2020 年 10 月 17 日 上午 11:36 
引用自 Portalearth
stay away from the default 747 and a320. This day old thread is simply old news for the rest of us Check out Salty's 747 and FlyByWire's a320, both fix the autopilot greatly.

Google it to find it
I don't want to install any mod from any private hobby programmer into the sim. I want the software that I bought at a high price to be delivered by the developer, and that it is playable.

With mods you usually get even more problems on board. And it's enough for me that I have to constantly wait for patches from Asoba until this and that is finally fixed. Now I don't feel like waiting until private programmers have finished their patch after each Asobo patch so that the patch works with the patch OMG
Detective Dan 2020 年 10 月 17 日 下午 12:40 
引用自 Xaxoon
引用自 Portalearth
stay away from the default 747 and a320. This day old thread is simply old news for the rest of us Check out Salty's 747 and FlyByWire's a320, both fix the autopilot greatly.

Google it to find it
I don't want to install any mod from any private hobby programmer into the sim. I want the software that I bought at a high price to be delivered by the developer, and that it is playable.

With mods you usually get even more problems on board. And it's enough for me that I have to constantly wait for patches from Asoba until this and that is finally fixed. Now I don't feel like waiting until private programmers have finished their patch after each Asobo patch so that the patch works with the patch OMG
This sounds like a personal problem then, not worthy of whining about in the first place. There's alternatives available but you're also welcome to ignore those alternatives. In the end, the person who has a problem is you and people who demand perfection when never in the history of video games has there ever been a day one release that *hasn't* had bugs in it.

For what its worth, I wouldn't mind paying some money for a decent payware aircraft either, as i'm an adult with a little disposable income and no sense of a budget. But i'd rather have an aircraft with a functioning autopilot in the first place than ree on the forums about something everyone already knows about. There's probably 10,000 other people using modded planes without complaint. One day, Asobo will fix their AP. For now, these modded planes will have to do
BigVern 2020 年 10 月 17 日 下午 1:15 
The A320 mod is actually very good and does seem to settle some of the residual issues with the default down a bit. Just have to accept, as with ETS2 and the Promods map, for now when Asobo make a change it will be necessary to wait for the modders to update their version.
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