Which airplane after Cessna 152 ?

[tc04]

As a newbie I learned how to fly the Chessna manually without assists.
Completing all checklists (even additional checklists from the web) before starting/landing.
I have done VFR and VOR Navigation

So which Airplane should I learn next ?
I am curious about the Garmin screen ...

[Mateo]

Originally posted by Crunchmeister:

Originally posted by Satan:

I've been in the Icon once for a few minutes and feel like I need to give it some more cockpit time, especially for those sightseeing flights.

I've been wanting to fly the TBM really bad but I feel like it's still out of my league. I want to get a little more comfortable in the DA62 before I jump into the TBM.

You'll enjoy it when you do. The TBM practically flies itself. It's fast and powerful, but has very nice flight characteristics and it's pretty nimble and flies like a dream. If you're even somewhat familiar with the Garmin units from the other planes, It takes very little to adapt to the G3000 in terms of taking readings.

The touch screen controls make it super easy to enter flight plans and radio frequencies vs the knobs on the other planes. This is one plane that I love to get into cold and dark, start up, and manually enter in a flight plan I've already built up ion SkyVector.

The Icon is just fun for sightseeing, paricularly for water-side attractions where you can land and see them from water level.

I've literally only done VFR flights but would love to get some experience doing VOR and IFR soon, it's just intimidating. Hence why I'm trying to become more comfortable with the G1000 in the Diamonds before I move into the TBM.

[Twelvefield]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Originally posted by Neo:

And then there's me, jumping straight to flying A320 and 787 doing full IFR from one place to another while never flown a Cessna or even VFR before..

Ironically enough some airline pilots are really bad when it comes to getting back to the basics. My dad flies the 737 for AAL and we went up in a Piper Archer because I wanted to see how he did these days and he did four or five touch-and-gos and each one made me say "oof" when we touched down. I did four or five of them after and he said "You make it look so simple!" and I laughed and said "Well, I'm sure I can say the same when you land a 737".

I talked to an airline pilot who had no idea what a whiskey compass is. Some of them do fall into the habit of flying the plane by autopilot.

Others revel in flying as much by stick and rudder as they can. The only one I met in person who was fanatical about that kind of flying was also a vice-president of the airline, so he allowed himself the luxury of ruining fuel economy for the sake of flying his plane by hand. I've also flown on a couple of charters where the pilot was given permission to have extensive manual control of the plane, but I never spoke with them, just their cabin crew.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally posted by Satan:

I've literally only done VFR flights but would love to get some experience doing VOR and IFR soon, it's just intimidating. Hence why I'm trying to become more comfortable with the G1000 in the Diamonds before I move into the TBM.

I'm just getting my head wrapped around VOR flight now. It's starting to make sense. But it seems to be all in the planning and requires extensive use of charts and such, which I'm also slowly learning how to decode via YouTube videos.

I've worked in the field of automation for the last 25 years, so to me, learning how the FMS works in the various planes comes pretty easy, even though they're not 100% functional atm (as Maki keeps reiterating in various threads). It was a bit of an initial learning curve, but after learning the G1000, I've had zero issues programming in a flight from cold start on the tarmac to a full IFR flight complete with ILS landing with any of the Garmin systems. The G3000 just makes doing that even easier, even if it doesn't work 100% correctly at the moment.

[tc04]

Originally posted by Twelvefield:

.......Have you tried the modded 152 with the updated flight envelope?

I read about it.... is it worth ?
There are a lot improvements like oil pressure/ fuel instruments etc


I am a bit afraid that mods will turn my low FPS even lower :-)

[Maki Nishikino]

I like the mod.

https://github.com/DRF30q/C152X

Click “Code” then “Download ZIP”.

[tc04]

I guess I need to buy the premium edition to get the steam gauge Cessna 172....
Looks brilliant and is best to continue learning coming from the Cessna 152.

I am on Xbox game pass at the moment and wanna quit the game pass.
So I am wondering about which version to buy at steam .... standard or premium.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally posted by tc04:

I guess I need to buy the premium edition to get the steam gauge Cessna 172....
Looks brilliant and is best to continue learning coming from the Cessna 152.

I am on Xbox game pass at the moment and wanna quit the game pass.
So I am wondering about which version to buy at steam .... standard or premium.

If the planes you're wanting aren't in the basic edition, you may be best off getting one of the higher editions right away. Just make the choice at the beginning, because it's pretty much full price to update from one edition to another higher one. If you want the steam gauge 172, then any edition that's not the basic will be what you want. I wish I would have chosen premium. :(

[Maki Nishikino]

Honestly if you want a steam gauge 172 I would wait for the A2A one, it will be a lot better and while it will be study level a 172 isn't that difficult.

[tc04]

Seems all the aircrafts that are a bit more simple like the Cessna 152 are in the deluxe version .....

what do you think...How long does it take that A2A releases study level aircrafts ....
They say the first one will be the Aerostar ... not that simple I guess.

I mean I could learn the Aerostar too but just wanted to go step by step because it is lot of fun to fly every plane intense one by one in the right order of the learning curve.

So the 172 steam gauge would be perfect as next step.
Any suggestion what would be best plane of all the standard ones?

[NicenJehr]

@crunchmeister if you're interested in learning more, the FAA publishes free training books

[Crunchmeister]

Originally posted by NicenJehr:

@crunchmeister if you're interested in learning more, the FAA publishes free training books

Thanks. I've been reading up from various courses, YouTube videos, etc. I'm not looking to become a pilot, but I'd still like to have a better understanding of it and what's involved. I have to admit, I feel like I'm drinking from a firehose. But things are falling into place.

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by tc04:

So the 172 steam gauge would be perfect as next step.

Of course, but buying the Deluxe Edition just for the 172 with steam gauges is just not cost effective when it comes to "learning". You will learn loads regarding flying and the Cessna 172 overall with the A2A one which will cost less than the Deluxe Edition. You may think you're actually getting a better value with the Deluxe Edition but honestly I don't think so, it depends on who you're asking. The reason I went with the Standard Edition is because stock aircraft aren't all that great and the other airports in the other editions don't interest me. The Standard Edition of MSFS paired with the A2A 172 seems like it would be an incredibly wise choice when it comes to the introduction of this hobby in a serious fashion.

[NicenJehr]

Instead of buying the deluxe edition you can consider buying x-plane 11, which has a six pack C172 along with some other nice aircraft. Their avionics are better at this point too

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by NicenJehr:

Instead of buying the deluxe edition you can consider buying x-plane 11, which has a six pack C172 along with some other nice aircraft. Their avionics are better at this point too

Well, even the default LR 172 has it's issues, some rather hilarious. If you want to go the XP route I would grab the Airfoillabs or REP.

[tc04]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Originally posted by tc04:

So the 172 steam gauge would be perfect as next step.

Of course, but buying the Deluxe Edition just for the 172 with steam gauges is just not cost effective when it comes to "learning". You will learn loads regarding flying and the Cessna 172 overall with the A2A one which will cost less than the Deluxe Edition. You may think you're actually getting a better value with the Deluxe Edition but honestly I don't think so, it depends on who you're asking. The reason I went with the Standard Edition is because stock aircraft aren't all that great and the other airports in the other editions don't interest me. The Standard Edition of MSFS paired with the A2A 172 seems like it would be an incredibly wise choice when it comes to the introduction of this hobby in a serious fashion.

Good info ! Ty.


So if I don’t buy the deluxe edition ...

do I need to have the deluxe edition Cessna 172 to install a Cessna 172 mod ?

It is clear that A2A are stand alone aircrafts... but the small mods ... don’t try need the Microsoft default aircraft installed/bought?