Will our INVESTED MONEY in Addons carry over to 2024?

[★Macman★]

This is THE most single important question and it has no answers yet which further is a more seriously worrying one.

The Game is not cheap and then our addons are far far deeper into our pocket. If all those Adoons can not carry over into MSFS2024 then that surely will mean many DEVS will bail out right now due to Customers not willing to put any more into this MSFS2020.

In a nut shell, without a definite announcement to NOT cause a panic in Sales (both for the Game & Addons) then this rather DOES cause a panic to cease all Sales forthwith.

GOBSMACKED but not surprised by the sheer greed from MICROSHAFT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wFaFCZMkqw&ab_channel=SimHangerFlightSimulation

[Razamanaz]

Messaggio originale di lefty1117:

Messaggio originale di Napoleonic S:

Did the add-ons for msfs 98 carry over to msfs 2000?

They've come out and said that the FS2020 marketplace purchases will work with 2024, yesterday, so this should no longer be a worry.

What about 3rd party not purchased from marketplace?

[Maki Nishikino]

Messaggio originale di Razamanaz:

Messaggio originale di lefty1117:

They've come out and said that the FS2020 marketplace purchases will work with 2024, yesterday, so this should no longer be a worry.

What about 3rd party not purchased from marketplace?

It will be the same.

Unless you've got a thing for buying shovelware addons in MSFS 2020 there is really nothing to worry about. Just about every addon I have purchased are from admired third-party developers who have been in the business of providing quality content for the flight simulation community for over 10 years (some well over that). The ones that haven't are from developers that have started with MSFS and have really made a name for themselves providing great content.

A majority of my addons have not been bought from the marketplace (the only reason I buy from the marketplace at times is because the addon I want is a marketplace exclusive) but rather the developers website to fully support the developers and also third-party vendors (I really like the reward points you get with Just Flight). I do plan on picking up MSFS 2024 and again I'm worried about my addon investment thus far in MSFS 2020 and will continue to buy addons for it. When MSFS 2024 rolls around I'm sure I will be able to use most(if not all of them.

EDIT: Added to post.

[★Macman★]

We do know that it only takes File Structure changes to then require an Update for Add-ons to work again. So IF there were any changes means we rely on the DEV to keep up for which they won't be paid for. Thus any DEV may also work on New Content which embraces the full tech of the new Engine albeit Ray Tracing Liveries or Cockpit or higher definition Glass Panels especially in VR, then they are less likely to continue any Support themselves for 2020 when they can SELL NEW PRODUCTS for 2024 just like MSFS are doing.

Now why should we expect there not to be any better Aircraft in 2024 when it frees up more new tech? WHY should we expect any DEV to want to make New or even Update OLD Aircraft for 2020?
Why expect both will use exactly the same Aircraft Tech and exact same file Structure after all we have seen in the past 3 years of breaking all Aircraft on each Update to need UPDATES when they themselves will not be paid to do so. THIS is the reality. Just look at 3years and compare what FSX IMPORTS we had working at first and then be broken to not use again e.g. ATR42/72 & DASH 8 FSX IMPORTS. That is what to expect for 2024 and not continued unpaid Support for existing Aircraft.

[Moriendor]

Messaggio originale di Maki Nishikino:

It will be the same.

Sure. Keep dreaming :) .

[Maki Nishikino]

Messaggio originale di Moriendor:

Messaggio originale di Maki Nishikino:

It will be the same.

Sure. Keep dreaming :) .

So for example you think the PMDG 737 on the marketplace right now for MSFS 2020 will work with MSFS 2024 but the PMDG 737 on the developers own website won't and thus those that bought it on the developers own website will be forced to buy it again but this time on the marketpalce or on their own website again simply because they didn't buy it on the marketplace in MSFS 2020? C'mon, lol.

[ZombieHunter]

Messaggio originale di Maki Nishikino:

Messaggio originale di Moriendor:

Sure. Keep dreaming :) .

So for example you think the PMDG 737 on the marketplace right now for MSFS 2020 will work with MSFS 2024 but the PMDG 737 on the developers own website won't and thus those that bought it on the developers own website will be forced to buy it again but this time on the marketpalce or on their own website again simply because they didn't buy it on the marketplace in MSFS 2020? C'mon, lol.

I think you are missing the fact that we know 100% for sure that one single update in FS 2020 can break many planes. It has before and continues to. This forces devs to release patches and so on and not all are on the same cadence. If you really think that all the planes are going to just magically work in FS 2024 I think you are overestimating the complexities involved in that. Now there is a dual focus. One is going to be their goldmine and one is going to be legacy. You tell me which one they are going to focus on? C'mon. It isn't rocket science. Common sense says there is no way they can keep up with 2 sims and updates when they have barely kept up with one.

[Maki Nishikino]

Messaggio originale di ZombieHunter:

Messaggio originale di Maki Nishikino:

So for example you think the PMDG 737 on the marketplace right now for MSFS 2020 will work with MSFS 2024 but the PMDG 737 on the developers own website won't and thus those that bought it on the developers own website will be forced to buy it again but this time on the marketpalce or on their own website again simply because they didn't buy it on the marketplace in MSFS 2020? C'mon, lol.

I think you are missing the fact that we know 100% for sure that one single update in FS 2020 can break many planes. It has before and continues to. This forces devs to release patches and so on and not all are on the same cadence. If you really think that all the planes are going to just magically work in FS 2024 I think you are overestimating the complexities involved in that. Now there is a dual focus. One is going to be their goldmine and one is going to be legacy. You tell me which one they are going to focus on? C'mon. It isn't rocket science. Common sense says there is no way they can keep up with 2 sims and updates when they have barely kept up with one.

Fair enough.

[ZombieHunter]

It scares me that I agree with MacMan and even Loaf. But this isn't about just being negative. There are some serious issues with all of this. Ones that most of the YT crowd are simply overlooking. They just go 'this is gonna be the best EVAR' without using a single brain cell about what it means in the long run. Makes me think half of them are paid shills or simply don't understand what this type of thing does to the games industry and consumer / gamer trust. Keep burning people and eventually you run out of good will.

Given we have constant connectivity and ways to get updates and so on there is absolutely no reason to need another sim. None at all. And if the old code got so bad...which I don't believe for one instant....then the new one will too. There is no justification for this at all.

[lefty1117]

This sort of model exists with a few other games, Train Sim World is the one that comes to mind.

[Rogen]

Yeah but with the existing forced updating method in 2020 really all MS has to do is apply the 2024 changes as an update, and here's the kicker, would an update generate further income for MS?

Yes there would be the ongoing sales, but this way they will have more sales as people will need to rebuy the sim.

And regarding third party products, they can be extremely complex (given they are simulating), this isn't a typical game where a DLC might consist of a loot box or a paint schema, or a single weapon/spell etc.

Changes might be needed in complex DLC to support the changes in 2024 and when I say might it is more likely than not. One only has to look at the 2020 updates themselves and the other current sims of P3D and XPlane where even relatively minor updates can have an effect on complex addons.

And the MS 10 year plan... does that include the initial 5 years in dev prior to the 2020 release?

[BlueStinger]

Messaggio originale di Rogen:

And the MS 10 year plan... does that include the initial 5 years in dev prior to the 2020 release?

Support is offered after release. Anyone that thinks otherwise is an idiot or a shill.

[Rogen]

Messaggio originale di BlueStinger:

Messaggio originale di Rogen:

And the MS 10 year plan... does that include the initial 5 years in dev prior to the 2020 release?

Support is offered after release. Anyone that thinks otherwise is an idiot or a shill.

Not necessarily, having worked in software R&D and development, a 10 year plan does not mean software would be supported for 10 years, look at Windows 10, MS said it would be continuously updated, and it was, however each update was a new release which would typically be supported for around 2 years. Moot point anyway as MS killed Win10 by releasing Win11, bad luck if you've a machine that won't run Win11, and now it seems 2020 has now been killed by 2024...

[★Macman★]

3rd Party DEV responses: -
FENIX (whom do not Sell on MARKETPLACE) have no idea what is going on as NO communication has been made with ASOBO yet...
FLIGHTBEAM Scenery Mods also were not contacted but state any license gets free transfers...
All DEVS are worried about frozen Purchases until the Release of 2024 obviously...
PMDG (whom do Sell on MARKETPLACE) has not had any info that will change practises and continue work on their 777 and onward...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX4jpD5UGAw&ab_channel=737NGDriver