Looks horrible with a Nvidia RTX 3080

[JG99]

I bought that video card so I could play this simulator but it looks like garbage and runs like it as well. The buildings have hardly any detail no matter how much I pump up the settings, the frame rate is horrible, Is it my processor? I have an AMD FX 4350 Quad core. Another thing, when I start it up it says I do not have the minimum requirements. Well damn, its says all you need is a NVIDIA GTX 770

[Crunchmeister]

Messaggio originale di Mandar_The_Grey:

its best to buy a ryzen 7600x/7700x with 16-32gb ram and b660 mobo or an equivalent intel (i5 12600k or 13600k) setup. that will go nicely with ((balance out) your RTX 3080.

While the OP never explicitly states budget constraints anywhere, I get the feeling from his comments (and hardware vintage) that he doesn't have a crapload of money to spend, and likely that 3080 was a very substantial purchase that hurt his pocketbook pretty badly. While what you're saying here is technically correct - he really needs a current or last gen CPU and mobo to really drive that 3080 to its full potential - I get the distinct impression that may be a bridge too far for this person.

Messaggio originale di Mandar_The_Grey:

you could also try a ryzen 2xxx, 3xxx or 5xxx setup if available in used market.

That would be my recommendation. A B550 mobo, a Ryzen 3600X or 5600X with 16GB, preferably used if he can find it. While not dirt cheap by any means, it's quite affordable stuff now since it's last gen, and would be a good counterpart for the 3080. Not the best, but good enough to be able to use the majority of what the 3080 can offer.

And of course, he'll likely need a power supply too if his isn't up to par.

[Narf]

Messaggio originale di Schmegg:

You should be able to just change the CPU - have a look for an AMD FX 8350.

That is a terrible recommendation. Not only is that CPU barely any better, it is still far from good enough for the game. You're telling the OP to waste his money buying a CPU that is a marginal, yet still insufficient upgrade to his current one.

No, on a platform that ancient you won't be able to run any CPU that is up to task, @OP. This means you'd need not only a new CPU, but also new RAM and a new mainboard. You can of course go state-of-the-art and burn a lot of money on an Intel 13xxx or a Ryzen 7xxx, or go for an entry-level (B550+Ryzen 5600x or B660+Intel 12400F would be my pick in that range) or mid-range (5800X3D+B550 board <-- this would be my pick, the 5800X3d is EXCELLENT for gaming and recently dropped in price) solution if money is tighter. Plus 32GB of DDR4 RAM, DDR5 if you're going high for an expensive high spec build on the newest generation.

[Crunchmeister]

Messaggio originale di Narf:

That is a terrible recommendation. Not only is that CPU barely any better, it is still far from good enough for the game.

No kidding. That's like telling someone to upgrade to a 1st gen i7 from a 1st gen i3. Yeah, it's certainly an "upgrade", but it still doesn't change that the fact it's still woefully inadequate the run the software he wants to run. So a pointless waste of money at best.

[Schmegg]

Messaggio originale di Narf:

Messaggio originale di Schmegg:

You should be able to just change the CPU - have a look for an AMD FX 8350.

That is a terrible recommendation. Not only is that CPU barely any better, it is still far from good enough for the game. You're telling the OP to waste his money buying a CPU that is a marginal, yet still insufficient upgrade to his current one.

It all depends on what they can afford really. And how much they want to play the game. I'm merely answering the question asked. You might noticed I made no judgement on if just upgrading the CPU is a good idea. Maybe dial it back a bit sir.

[JG99]

Messaggio originale di Schmegg:

You should be able to just change the CPU - have a look for an AMD FX 8350. What are the rest of your PC Specs? How much RAM? What types of storage and how much? There's a point where it just might be cheaper to get a while new computer, but you might be OK (ish) with just replacing your CPU perhaps.

The rest of it is OK, I have 32G ram and a huge amount of HD space but looking inside it, it looks like a real ♥♥♥♥♥ to take the CPU out all this other stuff is in the way

[JG99]

Messaggio originale di Narf:

Messaggio originale di Schmegg:

You should be able to just change the CPU - have a look for an AMD FX 8350.

That is a terrible recommendation. Not only is that CPU barely any better, it is still far from good enough for the game. You're telling the OP to waste his money buying a CPU that is a marginal, yet still insufficient upgrade to his current one.

No, on a platform that ancient you won't be able to run any CPU that is up to task, @OP. This means you'd need not only a new CPU, but also new RAM and a new mainboard. You can of course go state-of-the-art and burn a lot of money on an Intel 13xxx or a Ryzen 7xxx, or go for an entry-level (B550+Ryzen 5600x or B660+Intel 12400F would be my pick in that range) or mid-range (5800X3D+B550 board <-- this would be my pick, the 5800X3d is EXCELLENT for gaming and recently dropped in price) solution if money is tighter. Plus 32GB of DDR4 RAM, DDR5 if you're going high for an expensive high spec build on the newest generation.

Thanks for responding. I currently have 32G ram but Im not sure if it would fit on a new motherboard. I don't know if they allow links on here, but I did a search on Amazon, is this what you are talking about? Im a flying fanatic and I really want this program to work great.. https://www.amazon.com/AMD-16-Thread-Processor-Motherboard-Processors/dp/B097B39BSM/

[JG99]

BTW if anyone can answer, is this how good this simulator looks with a powerful enough computer or is this all mods? I cant believe the realism... https://steamcommunity.com/app/1250410/screenshots/

[Narf]

Messaggio originale di JG99:

Thanks for responding. I currently have 32G ram but Im not sure if it would fit on a new motherboard. I don't know if they allow links on here, but I did a search on Amazon, is this what you are talking about? Im a flying fanatic and I really want this program to work great.. https://www.amazon.com/AMD-16-Thread-Processor-Motherboard-Processors/dp/B097B39BSM/

No, old DDR3 RAM does not fit on mainboards of this, or even the last generation. We're currently at DDR5, before that was DDR4. None of those are compatible with each other's mainboard slots.

And no, I said 5800X3D, the one you linked is the 5800X. Different processor, still a good one, but kinda neither here nor there currently, sitting between the nearly as good 5600X and the significantly better 5800X3D.

And as for the looks of the simulator, you can always just check out a few youtube videos. Moving pictures say more than screenshots. But yes, it looks fantastic.

Messaggio originale di JG99:

It all depends on what they can afford really. And how much they want to play the game. I'm merely answering the question asked. You might noticed I made no judgement on if just upgrading the CPU is a good idea. Maybe dial it back a bit sir.

"Akshually"... you know very well that your answer, where you recommended to replace one ancient, insufficient CPU with another ancient, insufficient CPU goes against the spirit of the question. Doesn't matter if it is technically still an upgrade, it's still an answer in bad faith. Especially when money is tight - which was never said so far - it is a bad recommendation to waste it on a part that still won't be able to achieve the goal, instead of saving it up and buying one that can, instead. That old platform is simply not worth investing into anymore, except for parts that can be carried over into another PC at a later point.

[startrekmike]

Messaggio originale di JG99:

Messaggio originale di Narf:

That is a terrible recommendation. Not only is that CPU barely any better, it is still far from good enough for the game. You're telling the OP to waste his money buying a CPU that is a marginal, yet still insufficient upgrade to his current one.

No, on a platform that ancient you won't be able to run any CPU that is up to task, @OP. This means you'd need not only a new CPU, but also new RAM and a new mainboard. You can of course go state-of-the-art and burn a lot of money on an Intel 13xxx or a Ryzen 7xxx, or go for an entry-level (B550+Ryzen 5600x or B660+Intel 12400F would be my pick in that range) or mid-range (5800X3D+B550 board <-- this would be my pick, the 5800X3d is EXCELLENT for gaming and recently dropped in price) solution if money is tighter. Plus 32GB of DDR4 RAM, DDR5 if you're going high for an expensive high spec build on the newest generation.

Thanks for responding. I currently have 32G ram but Im not sure if it would fit on a new motherboard. I don't know if they allow links on here, but I did a search on Amazon, is this what you are talking about? Im a flying fanatic and I really want this program to work great.. https://www.amazon.com/AMD-16-Thread-Processor-Motherboard-Processors/dp/B097B39BSM/

At this point, you are basically looking at building a new computer in a lot of ways. Here is a approach you might consider taking.

1.) Find out what kind of CPU you want to go for. Don't cheap out on this too much since flight sims depend greatly on a strong CPU with good per-core performance. A good place to start would be to look at something like a i7 12700K. That would be a really solid CPU that will give you plenty of wiggle room without wasting money on power you won't use.

2.) When you pick your CPU, you will need to pick a motherboard that supports it. Make sure to be careful since motherboard brands are not all going to be up to the same quality standard. ASUS is typically a safe bet in terms of brand.

3.) Now that you have your CPU and motherboard picked out, you will need to get new RAM (since your RAM is so old that modern motherboards won't support it. You will want to go for 32 gigs of RAM if you want to do a lot of flight simming. Try to avoid REALLY cheap brands. Corsair and even G.Skill are solid brands to look out for.

4.) If you don't already have a high quality, mid to high-wattage power supply, you are going to need to get one. I cannot emphasize enough that you really, really should not cheap out here. Power supplies are the kind of thing that the inexperienced will cheap out on and then regret it when the unit blows up and takes some of their other expensive parts with it. Get a good, modern Corsair, EVGA, or some other highly regarded, well reviewed brand in the 800+ wattage range.

[Manwith Noname]

My humble opinion...

B550, 5600x and 32GB DDR4 RAM. Right now and in the coming weeks / months you should be able to pick this up at good prices. Would echo the other comments though, if you can get a 5800X3D at a good price now, that's the best choice if you prioritise MSFS and to some extent would be a better match for the 3080 long term.

[Narf]

Messaggio originale di Manwith Noname:

My humble opinion...

B550, 5600x and 32GB DDR4 RAM. Right now and in the coming weeks / months you should be able to pick this up at good prices. Would echo the other comments though, if you can get a 5800X3D at a good price now, that's the best choice if you prioritise MSFS and to some extent would be a better match for the 3080 long term.

Yeah, it's currently a very good time to grab up the Ryzen 5000 generation. They have dropped significantly in price almost across the entire board, with the 5800X3D going down around 100$ in the recent weeks. And that is for brandnew parts.

If one isn't afraid of buying used parts, a lot of people will be switching to Intel 13000 and Ryzen 7000 with new boards and DDR5 in the coming weeks, there should be some great deals for replaced CPU+Mainboard+RAM parts in the used parts market.

[Mondyrocks]

I'm running a Ryzen 5 5600x, 32gb ddr4 ram@3200 and a 2080ti, installed on an nvme drive.
Equally important is your internet speed.
Microsoft recommend a minimum of 50mbps for stutter free streaming.

With my set up, I run in 4k resolution (another thing to consider with that graphics card, you could do with at least a 1440p monitor) I'm limited to 30 fps, with settings on high.

DLSS balanced, is enabled, which enables draw distances to be set at 300 and 200 respectively.

It runs as solid as a rock and stutter free (after initial loading in of scenery).

I have no graphical mods installed.

A good youtube channel to check out is "The Simhanger".
Mark is very good and makes msfs videos with his pc and an xbox series X, which is also worth considering if money is tight.

Being as you've already splashed out on a 3080, it would be best to upgrade.
If you know nothing about building a pc, buy a ready made one, without a graphics card and your 3080 can be installed when it comes.

Good luck!!

[Manwith Noname]

Messaggio originale di Narf:

...the 5800X3D going down around 100$ in the recent weeks. And that is for brandnew parts.

Yeah. I think the best time for X3D will be when the 7000 series ones are released. The 5800X3D has dropped £100 to £350. The 5600x can be bagged for £160 though. Crazy cheap really. A 7600x is about £320 and the motherboards...dear god. A couple of weeks ago the cheapest AM5 mobo was about £400.

[JG99]

Messaggio originale di startrekmike:

Messaggio originale di JG99:

Thanks for responding. I currently have 32G ram but Im not sure if it would fit on a new motherboard. I don't know if they allow links on here, but I did a search on Amazon, is this what you are talking about? Im a flying fanatic and I really want this program to work great.. https://www.amazon.com/AMD-16-Thread-Processor-Motherboard-Processors/dp/B097B39BSM/

At this point, you are basically looking at building a new computer in a lot of ways. Here is a approach you might consider taking.

1.) Find out what kind of CPU you want to go for. Don't cheap out on this too much since flight sims depend greatly on a strong CPU with good per-core performance. A good place to start would be to look at something like a i7 12700K. That would be a really solid CPU that will give you plenty of wiggle room without wasting money on power you won't use.

2.) When you pick your CPU, you will need to pick a motherboard that supports it. Make sure to be careful since motherboard brands are not all going to be up to the same quality standard. ASUS is typically a safe bet in terms of brand.

3.) Now that you have your CPU and motherboard picked out, you will need to get new RAM (since your RAM is so old that modern motherboards won't support it. You will want to go for 32 gigs of RAM if you want to do a lot of flight simming. Try to avoid REALLY cheap brands. Corsair and even G.Skill are solid brands to look out for.

4.) If you don't already have a high quality, mid to high-wattage power supply, you are going to need to get one. I cannot emphasize enough that you really, really should not cheap out here. Power supplies are the kind of thing that the inexperienced will cheap out on and then regret it when the unit blows up and takes some of their other expensive parts with it. Get a good, modern Corsair, EVGA, or some other highly regarded, well reviewed brand in the 800+ wattage range.

OK thanks so much! I'll spend the weekend going over all this, thanks for taking the time to explain it to me

[JG99]

Messaggio originale di Manwith Noname:

Messaggio originale di Narf:

...the 5800X3D going down around 100$ in the recent weeks. And that is for brandnew parts.

Yeah. I think the best time for X3D will be when the 7000 series ones are released. The 5800X3D has dropped £100 to £350. The 5600x can be bagged for £160 though. Crazy cheap really. A 7600x is about £320 and the motherboards...dear god. A couple of weeks ago the cheapest AM5 mobo was about £400.

OK thanks. I can't believe how fast these computers improve. I bought the one I have only 5 years ago and already its way outdates