Microsoft Flight Simulator

Microsoft Flight Simulator

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JG99 Oct 27, 2022 @ 10:08am
Looks horrible with a Nvidia RTX 3080
I bought that video card so I could play this simulator but it looks like garbage and runs like it as well. The buildings have hardly any detail no matter how much I pump up the settings, the frame rate is horrible, Is it my processor? I have an AMD FX 4350 Quad core. Another thing, when I start it up it says I do not have the minimum requirements. Well damn, its says all you need is a NVIDIA GTX 770
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Mondyrocks Oct 27, 2022 @ 10:19am 
Basically, your cpu is a pos and is well below the required spec....

It doesn't matter if you've got a 4090, your cpu isn't fast enough to make the required draw calls that your gpu is asking for....
startrekmike Oct 27, 2022 @ 11:16am 
Yeah. Your CPU is breathtakingly below the minimum system requirement and will invariably be a massive bottleneck for your GPU. To be bluntly honest. You wasted money on that GPU that should have been put towards a modern CPU, Motherboard and RAM. Only then would you really be able to actually take advantage of that GPU's capability. Right now, you really can't.
Crunchmeister Oct 27, 2022 @ 11:19am 
I can't help thinking this post a troll post. I say that because putting a 3080 in an FX4350 is kind of like putting a $30000 entertainment system in a rusted out 1982 Lada.

But in case it's serious...

FX4350 is well below supported specs for MSFS. This sim is very CPU bound. Even the fastest CPUs currently on the market struggle with it. Doesn't matter how high end your GPU is. If your CPU doesn't hold up, it won't do you any good.

And even on any other game, you'd be so CPU bound that you'd only be using a small percentage of the performance a 3080 could offer.
Last edited by Crunchmeister; Oct 27, 2022 @ 11:20am
Narf Oct 27, 2022 @ 12:45pm 
If this isn't a troll post then you have literally strapped a diamond-studded saddle on a plague-riddled pig and then expected a great ride.
pr0x Oct 27, 2022 @ 1:46pm 
If it weren't for the fact that it was posted here, I would also have assumed it was a troll post.
JG99 Oct 27, 2022 @ 9:57pm 
Originally posted by Crunchmeister:
I can't help thinking this post a troll post. I say that because putting a 3080 in an FX4350 is kind of like putting a $30000 entertainment system in a rusted out 1982 Lada.

But in case it's serious...

FX4350 is well below supported specs for MSFS. This sim is very CPU bound. Even the fastest CPUs currently on the market struggle with it. Doesn't matter how high end your GPU is. If your CPU doesn't hold up, it won't do you any good.

And even on any other game, you'd be so CPU bound that you'd only be using a small percentage of the performance a 3080 could offer.

WOW! Holy cow! I swear that was not a troll post, I had NO idea about any of that with the CPU. I always though when I played games the GPU took over and the CPU was used very minimally. Thanks so much for answering, because Im not kidding, I had no idea about any of this. How could I change my CPU? Don't tell me I would have to buy a whole new motherboard etc.
JG99 Oct 27, 2022 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by Narf:
If this isn't a troll post then you have literally strapped a diamond-studded saddle on a plague-riddled pig and then expected a great ride.

Believe me, it isnt a troll post. I had ZERO idea about the importance of the CPU, I always thought the GPU took over for games. Is a CPU easy to replace or do I need a whole new motherboard etc?
Schmegg Oct 27, 2022 @ 11:12pm 
You should be able to just change the CPU - have a look for an AMD FX 8350. What are the rest of your PC Specs? How much RAM? What types of storage and how much? There's a point where it just might be cheaper to get a while new computer, but you might be OK (ish) with just replacing your CPU perhaps.
Rever Oct 28, 2022 @ 12:51am 
My opinion is that you should buy a new computer with no graphics card and then install your 3080 into it. Of course I don't have any details about your current computer or your financial situation, so it is easy for me to say.
erratic_gamer Oct 28, 2022 @ 1:40am 
Originally posted by JG99:
I bought that video card so I could play this simulator but it looks like garbage and runs like it as well. The buildings have hardly any detail no matter how much I pump up the settings, the frame rate is horrible, Is it my processor? I have an AMD FX 4350 Quad core. Another thing, when I start it up it says I do not have the minimum requirements. Well damn, its says all you need is a NVIDIA GTX 770

bro the kinda power required to do what you want is not present in current commercial hardware. it would take a supercomputer to try and attempt what is needed. sorry for your loss. you can try other flight simulators and see if they look better eg. Aerofly FS 4 Flight Simulator for instance.

the sign of eiffel tower in the video of the Aerofly game was great. i could be wrong but simulators are not focused on good graphics sadly.

also i think you need to exceed recommended sys specs in cpu/ram and gpu department.
Last edited by erratic_gamer; Oct 28, 2022 @ 1:49am
Rever Oct 28, 2022 @ 2:09am 
Originally posted by Mandar_The_Grey:
bro the kinda power required to do what you want is not present in current commercial hardware. it would take a supercomputer to try and attempt what is needed. sorry for your loss. you can try other flight simulators and see if they look better eg. Aerofly FS 4 Flight Simulator for instance.

the sign of eiffel tower in the video of the Aerofly game was great. i could be wrong but simulators are not focused on good graphics sadly.

also i think you need to exceed recommended sys specs in cpu/ram and gpu department.
This is completely wrong.
erratic_gamer Oct 28, 2022 @ 2:21am 
Originally posted by Rever:
Originally posted by Mandar_The_Grey:
bro the kinda power required to do what you want is not present in current commercial hardware. it would take a supercomputer to try and attempt what is needed. sorry for your loss. you can try other flight simulators and see if they look better eg. Aerofly FS 4 Flight Simulator for instance.

the sign of eiffel tower in the video of the Aerofly game was great. i could be wrong but simulators are not focused on good graphics sadly.

also i think you need to exceed recommended sys specs in cpu/ram and gpu department.
This is completely wrong.

well...people were being unkind to him, he invested in a RTX 3080 which costs a lot and yet doesn't give what he says he wants. also i don't own this game so im not aware of how it looks graphically. I have only ever played FSX and it was not huge on graphics albeit that is to be expected for its time. when this game released people said frames dipped even on the very best hardware in certain regions of the world map. they might have changed this by now.
Crunchmeister Oct 28, 2022 @ 4:28am 
I had to ask if it was a troll post or not because people will troll like this. Others, like yourself, obviously just aren't tech-inclined and don't know how the stuff works.

Originally posted by JG99:
I always though when I played games the GPU took over and the CPU was used very minimally.
It depends heavily on the game. Some require very modest CPU usage, others require lots. All will benefit from CPU, but some like MSFS are heavily dependent on it. While the graphics in MSFS are great, and you need a decent card to crank the details, most of the workload is on the CPU to do all the calculations required for weather, traffic, weather, fluid dynamics, etc. Even people with the top of the line, bleeding edge CPUs find themselves CPU limited with this title.

And it's not just the CPU.

Your motherboard only supports PCIe Gen 2. The RTX3080 is a Gen 4 card. At the very maximum, your motherboard is only able to deliver less than 1/3 the data transfer rate that a 3080 can handle. Granted, it doesn't require the full data rate of PCEi Gen 4 (you could get away with Gen 3), you're still leaving a lot of unused performance on the table by virtue of your old motherboard.

And then there's your old DD3 memory that's quite slow by the current DDR4 and DDR5 standards. That has a huge impact on how fast your CPU can operate.
Originally posted by JG99:
Don't tell me I would have to buy a whole new motherboard etc.

New motherboard, CPU and RAM. There's no way around it. There's no way to just upgrade a CPU, especially where you're almost 10 years and 8 generations behind the current curve. And depending what you have, possibly a new power supply too if you're under 850W.

So yeah, there's no way around it. There's absolutely nothing you can do with your current system to make it usable for MSFS. There's nothing that can be upgraded. You need a full system upgrade if you intend to fly MSFS. And even to just use that 3080 to its full potential. I don't want to sound like I'm being mean, because that's not my intent, but my original analogy of putting a $30000 sound system in a rusted out 1982 Lada stands. Your entire platform is well beyond its best-before date.
Last edited by Crunchmeister; Oct 28, 2022 @ 6:12am
Crunchmeister Oct 28, 2022 @ 6:14am 
Originally posted by Schmegg:
You should be able to just change the CPU - have a look for an AMD FX 8350.
That's still well below the requirement to run MSFS. Minimum spec on the AMD side is a 1st gen Ryzen. And even with that, it will run like hot garbage. It will run, but it's hard to fly at 10 fps.

I'd say the minimum should be a Ryzen 2000 series with 16GB of RAM. 32GB preferable.
Last edited by Crunchmeister; Oct 28, 2022 @ 6:16am
erratic_gamer Oct 28, 2022 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by JG99:
I bought that video card so I could play this simulator but it looks like garbage and runs like it as well. The buildings have hardly any detail no matter how much I pump up the settings, the frame rate is horrible, Is it my processor? I have an AMD FX 4350 Quad core. Another thing, when I start it up it says I do not have the minimum requirements. Well damn, its says all you need is a NVIDIA GTX 770

its best to buy a ryzen 7600x/7700x with 16-32gb ram and b660 mobo or an equivalent intel (i5 12600k or 13600k) setup. that will go nicely with ((balance out) your RTX 3080.

you could also try a ryzen 2xxx, 3xxx or 5xxx setup if available in used market.

srry but more expenses lay ahead, you will also need a flight stick or Xbox one controller.
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