Great job on the CRJ

[EngineerKenny 123]

Just a plug for the devs of this plane. For anyone on the fence about it - BUY IT! I've been with FS since 1990, had many versions, and purchased a ton of add-ons over the years. Had X-Plane 11, and more add-ons. For me, this is THE single best made add-on that I have ever purchased - literally, probably over 100 since I have been flying. I've had PMDG as well and their products are great (but expensive). For me, there are NO - zero - bugs. A couple of tiny small quirks, as it isn't perfect, but no bugs. Also, some of the key mappings are not in sync with the buttons/toggle switches - a quirk if you will. However, this plane is a joy to fly, and stuff works. I've made mistakes (like near the end of a flight realizing the temp in the cabin was -33 degrees C. But it was MY mistake - not the software. On another - actually the same - flight, passenger oxygen masks deployed because of a pressure problem that I created. Again, MY mistake, not the software. I literally cannot wait for my next flight. So why all this "chat" - I just want to make sure that anyone who is considering it, but may have doubts - BUY IT. You will be glad you did. And while I'm at it, the folks at MSFS have done a pretty good job of improving this sim too. Yeh, we still have problems and issues, but they are being fixed. Thanks to MS, Asosbo, an whoever else is part of this whole thing! One last thing - Buy it is the Marketplace. It is simplicity personified, and yes you do get a receipt -from Steam - mine was in email shortly after purchase.

[ralf_maeder]

Unfortunately the framerate drops from normally 30 to 20 (33% drop) once all glass cockpit displays are activated. Aerosoft says that they can't improve on that since it is a far more complex aircraft than default MSFS aircrafts like for example Airbus 320Neo. I hope that once DirectX12 will be available for the sim, the CPU usage will be much better (I have a 12 core Xeon E5-2687W v4 computer).

[John W]

I did a comparison at Flightbeam's KDEN with the A320, 787, CRJ 550, CRJ 700 and the Longitude. The frame rates were the best with the Longitude at around 37 fps sitting on the runway. The A320 was at 31 fps, the 787 27 fps and the CRJ's at around 28. So the CRJ isn't really any worse that many others in FS2020. It's just disappointing. I get much better frames in X Plane 11 and P3D V4.5 and V5.1.

[BulletMagnet]

Cyrusj eredeti hozzászólása:

What was the issues with the flight? I just had the same issue on my last flight and i'm not sure what i set wrong. Both the cabin pressure going up until the masks deployed as well as the cabin temp being in the -30s.

You had the AC packs off. The indicator lights and relevant ECAM message don't trigger once you start the engines (works fine while on APU). Bug, already reported.
For now you can check the status on the ECS page (running pack has a green outline).

[Cyrusj]

BulletMagnet eredeti hozzászólása:

Cyrusj eredeti hozzászólása:

What was the issues with the flight? I just had the same issue on my last flight and i'm not sure what i set wrong. Both the cabin pressure going up until the masks deployed as well as the cabin temp being in the -30s.

You had the AC packs off. The indicator lights and relevant ECAM message don't trigger once you start the engines (works fine while on APU). Bug, already reported.
For now you can check the status on the ECS page (running pack has a green outline).

Awesome, thank you for the information.
I tired googling it but most everything was for the Prepar3D version.

[★Macman★]

Tried it = Not impressed...

• FLAPS on this are using what seems to be the 0 to 100% Range instead of the -100 to 100% Range on ALL other Aircraft. So you must be either extremely precise with tiny movements to make your separate angles OR change your bind solely for this OR resort to just using 2 binds for +/- which I also happen to use on my Throttle for GA. Just proves they did not play MSFS with HOTAS and is very typical of all DEVS in actual fact (Elite:D & Star Wars:Squadrons is further proof).
  
  
• SPOILERS on all Airliners are laggy to initiate but on this they are 10x worse and can not follow my actual speed of movement so can end up in a completely none synced position unless you move it slowly. Also it has not got AUTO-RETRACT same as all other Airliners but you can edit this line to do so. Weird.
  
  
• THROTTLE uses only 50% of it's travel revealing they clearly do not play MSFS.
  
  
• BINDS for many things are not working including: ARM SPOILERS / LANDING LIGHTS / TAXI LIGHTS / REVERSE THRUST.
  
  
• REVERSE THRUST worked only the once by using Mouse on actual Fingertip Levers but then broke completely. It was already Armed and resetting this does nothing. Not even the red levers do anything.
  
  
• FMC FLIGHT PLAN is already known to not load the one from World Map (oh come on - was this started out as a FSX Import then or what? Just lazy, I mean what Game is this for???).
  
  
• PROGRAMMING FMC FLIGHT PLAN is just like the CJ4 (except the POS INIT is taken from the left side instead) it must include SIDS & STARS else it won't draw Direct Routes (no lines between Waypoints to follow). You may get 1 or even 2 Discontinuities to Delete. Unlike the CJ4 you won't need to press Destination Sequence x2 to make it properly point towards your Route Direction due to this.
  
  
• SPEED KNOB & BUTTON = no idea as it has no AutoThrust but acts as if it is Selected Speed.
  
  
• VS does not stop when climbing/descending to Selected Altitude. I think there are other reasons for this other than not working.
  
  
• APR does work and it catches the G/S however it will take some managing Speed to carefully stay on it. If only you could actually see the G/S Diamond that is as it has none.
  
  
• MOUSE POINTER in VR is a mess on the AP Panel as the icon is skewed and goes smaller. Also it won't scroll any Knobs by holding so is just a pain to use. Some Switches will use Left-Button for one way but not work again to Toggle so it uses the Scroll Wheel to switch instead as though it once was that method on another Imported Plane they used. Weird.
  
  
• AISLE PANEL LIGHTING is a bit weak compared to other Panel's brightness and they missed off any lighting for the AP Panel like all others have. This makes many of them difficult to read and operate. This is even on my G2 on excellent settings. Zooming in to the centre console is a pain.
  
  All I can say is give it a go but for me and for now I'll go for a REFUND. I don't see this being a favourite of mine and would rather my money went towards the A380 & Concorde. It may have SIMBRIEF Imports and a FlyPad but I really am not taken by it.

[yorran]

I really can't make up my mind on buying this plane or not.

On one hand, this bird seems to have a lot of functions that are not available in stock planes (love the sounds and cabin messages, btw). It definitely deserves a spot in the marketplace, and makes its stand compared to previous mods like the B737.

But then... I can't be bothered enough to have separate control settings for this plane only, and also it seems from every review that the apporach and final are pretty stressful. On the top of that, if binds don't work... eeerrrhkkkk.

I would love to watch a review of this plane from a real CRJ pilot, but couldn't find any yet.

Hopefully more aircrafts will be available with time. I'm really waiting for the A350 and the Phenom 300... but that's not the topic for this thread.

[Schmegg]

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

Tried it = Not impressed...

• FLAPS on this are using what seems to be the 0 to 100% Range instead of the -100 to 100% Range on ALL other Aircraft. So you must be either extremely precise with tiny movements to make your separate angles OR change your bind solely for this OR resort to just using 2 binds for +/- which I also happen to use on my Throttle for GA. Just proves they did not play MSFS with HOTAS and is very typical of all DEVS in actual fact (Elite:D & Star Wars:Squadrons is further proof).

I haven't had any issues at all with the flaps. It's likely your bindings.

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

SPOILERS on all Airliners are laggy to initiate but on this they are 10x worse and can not follow my actual speed of movement so can end up in a completely none synced position unless you move it slowly. Also it has not got AUTO-RETRACT same as all other Airliners but you can edit this line to do so. Weird.

How fast are the spoliers on the real aircraft? Do you know? Are they wrong with this aircraft? Or would you just like them to be faster and, potentially, not like the real aircraft?

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

THROTTLE uses only 50% of it's travel revealing they clearly do not play MSFS.

BINDS for many things are not working including: ARM SPOILERS / LANDING LIGHTS / TAXI LIGHTS / REVERSE THRUST.

REVERSE THRUST worked only the once by using Mouse on actual Fingertip Levers but then broke completely. It was already Armed and resetting this does nothing. Not even the red levers do anything.

I'm not having these issues, though I haven't tried binding some of those. If, as you say, some of them have issues, I suspect they'll be fixed in a coming patch.

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

FMC FLIGHT PLAN is already known to not load the one from World Map (oh come on - was this started out as a FSX Import then or what? Just lazy, I mean what Game is this for???).

I agree it would be nice but it was apparently not technically possible according to the devs ...
"They can't be imported, you will really have to do it like a real pilot does. Again, this is a commuter, not flightplans of many pages so not a real issue in our mind. Also behind this decision is that we are forced to use our own navdata database and that might now be the same database as the default sim."

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

PROGRAMMING FMC FLIGHT PLAN is just like the CJ4 (except the POS INIT is taken from the left side instead) it must include SIDS & STARS else it won't draw Direct Routes (no lines between Waypoints to follow). You may get 1 or even 2 Discontinuities to Delete. Unlike the CJ4 you won't need to press Destination Sequence x2 to make it properly point towards your Route Direction due to this.

This is correct.

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

SPEED KNOB & BUTTON = no idea as it has no AutoThrust but acts as if it is Selected Speed.

Again - correct and faithful to the aircraft.

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

VS does not stop when climbing/descending to Selected Altitude. I think there are other reasons for this other than not working.

It works for me.

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

APR does work and it catches the G/S however it will take some managing Speed to carefully stay on it. If only you could actually see the G/S Diamond that is as it has none.

This also works for me. And yes, you must manage the speed, just like the real aircraft. It is, after all, a simulation.

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

MOUSE POINTER in VR is a mess on the AP Panel as the icon is skewed and goes smaller. Also it won't scroll any Knobs by holding so is just a pain to use. Some Switches will use Left-Button for one way but not work again to Toggle so it uses the Scroll Wheel to switch instead as though it once was that method on another Imported Plane they used. Weird.

Mouse pointer in VR is pretty damn ordinary in general. But I can't really comment beyond that as I don't fly this bird in VR.

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

AISLE PANEL LIGHTING is a bit weak compared to other Panel's brightness and they missed off any lighting for the AP Panel like all others have. This makes many of them difficult to read and operate. This is even on my G2 on excellent settings. Zooming in to the centre console is a pain.

Zooming around is, I agree, a pain. And you have to do a lot of it in this aircraft. It's possible the one thing here I totally agree with you about. XD

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

All I can say is give it a go but for me and for now I'll go for a REFUND. I don't see this being a favourite of mine and would rather my money went towards the A380 & Concorde. It may have SIMBRIEF Imports and a FlyPad but I really am not taken by it.

Good to see you say "give it a go". I think many will enjoy this for a while if they are looking for something reasonably complex to fly. Lots of things to learn that can be transferable and much more of a challenge than the rest of what is currently available. I'm enjoying it while I wait for PDMG. They'll probably be another year away - so this is a nice stop gap IMHO, at least until something better comes along.

Anyway, sorry to see you don't get on with it. I agree it's not for everyone and I'm sure there will be something come along that hits the spot better for you. Please let us know how you go with the refund - I'm most interested in how you go there. Hope there are no problems. :-)

[★Macman★]

OK 2 positives now...

• 1. The SPEED is to be pressed acting like FLC after you change Attitude or use VS with Selected Altitude.
  
• 2. THRUST REVERSE needs to be bloody ACTIVATED in the FlyPad in Joystick Calibration. I thought this was MSFS and their job for Control Setting. Bloody stupid.
  =OPTIONS>NEXT>CALIBRATE THROTTLE>REVERSE MAX>(move to full) SET
  
  
• For some people they Set Throttle wrongly on 0-100% Bind but I already had mine set to the Proper Axis. It just needed ThrustReverse made active ffs. No other Aircraft needed this so why bother adding a crap switch which adversely would NOT affect anyone if you did not have it bound in the Game Settings regardless - Bloody stupid.
  
  
• FLAPS are going to seriously piss me off for requiring a totally different bind to ALL others due to having to use the same +/- binds I use on GA which demises the experience somewhat.
  
• SPOILERS are going to seriously piss me off.
  
• I have yet to SEE the Diamond Appear for the G/S to know if my speed is correct to follow it and manage.
  
• MOUSE which can not hold to scroll knobs is seriously going to piss me off as much as the skewed icon pointer whilst over the AP Panel (you don't get that on flat screen).
  
  NOW THEN - THE MOST SERIOUS ISSUE OF ALL - DO NOT BUY ON MARKETPLACE
  After just a few hours trying out the CRJ 550/700 when I legally have 48hours refund constraint:
  
  "We cannot grant a refund at this time. In-game item purchases are not refundable if any items in the purchase have been consumed, modified, or transferred."
  
  = M A F I A

[★Macman★]

SO: REVERSE THRUST BIND really is NOT COMPATIBLE (this is where you use a bind to make Full Forward become Full Reverse). Although you can get it to work in the FlyPad Calibration Menu by setting Idle to anything around -12000 to say -8000, it will NOT stay working once you close that Menu just as it will show this ERROR on the Validation also. The way to get REVERSE THRUST is NOT the ReverseThrust Bind but to have IDLE around those settings then use Full Backward Axis so it matches where CUTOFF is instead. Bloody stupid.

"Great ITALIAN Job"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g_GeQR8fJo

[John W]

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

OK 2 positives now...

• 1. The SPEED is to be pressed acting like FLC before you use VS with Selected Altitude
  
• 2. THRUST REVERSE needs to be bloody ACTIVATED in the FlyPad in Joystick Calibration. I thought this was MSFS and the job of the Control Setting. Bloody stupid.
  =OPTIONS>NEXT>CALIBRATE THROTTLE>REVERSE MAX>(move to full) SET
  
  
• For some people they Set Throttle wrongly on 0-100% Bind but I already had mine set to the Proper Axis. It just needed ThrustReverse made active ffs. No other Aircraft needed this so why bother adding a crap switch which adversely would NOT affect anyone if you did not have it bound in the Game Settings regardless - Bloody stupid.
  
  
• FLAPS are going to seriously piss me off for requiring a totally different bind to ALL others.
  
• SPOILERS are going to seriously piss me off due to having to use the same +/- binds I use on GA which demises the experience somewhat.
  
• I have yet to SEE the Diamond Appear for the G/S to know if my speed is correct to follow it and manage.
  
• MOUSE which can not hold to scroll knobs is seriously going to piss me off as much as the skewed icon pointer whilst over the AP Panel (you don't get that on flat screen).
  
  NOW THEN - THE MOST SERIOUS ISSUE OF ALL - DO NOT BUY ON MARKETPLACE
  After just a few hours trying out the CRJ 550/700 when I legally have 48hours refund constraint:
  
  "We cannot grant a refund at this time. In-game item purchases are not refundable if any items in the purchase have been consumed, modified, or transferred."
  
  = M A F I A

I agree about the reverse thrust. I did the calibrate thing but it isn't the way I want it to be. On all of my other aircraft I use a button on my throttle to toggle reverse thrust and then push the throttle forward for reverse. Works very well. My Thrustmaster throttle does not have an idle detent so I can't feel when the throttle is at idle for the CRJ. Pain in the butt. So I most likely will use no reverse on the CRJ because it's messed up with it's implementation.

[★Macman★]

ReverseThrust can at least be used MID-AIR and does help for the acceleration rates it has and trying to get the ILS correctly aligned...
I've since seen the G/S having change by VOR1 holding ILS Frequency for LOC and then it turns the BLUE DIAMOND into a GREEN DIAMOND. Is the BLUE one really a good idea and is it for RNAV or what? I mean it's BLUE ON BLUE - bloody stupid.

[Cyrusj]

John W eredeti hozzászólása:

Macman eredeti hozzászólása:

OK 2 positives now...

= M A F I A

I agree about the reverse thrust. I did the calibrate thing but it isn't the way I want it to be. On all of my other aircraft I use a button on my throttle to toggle reverse thrust and then push the throttle forward for reverse. Works very well. My Thrustmaster throttle does not have an idle detent so I can't feel when the throttle is at idle for the CRJ. Pain in the butt. So I most likely will use no reverse on the CRJ because it's messed up with it's implementation.

I ran into this issue with my Thrustmaster as well. I normally have a button set to toggle the reverse thrust and use my normal forward thrust as a reverse thrust. (What I think you described doing)

However, you can bind a key to set the reverse thrust at full and then wiggle the throttle when you want to go back to idle.

https://youtu.be/H93eqw8yLmI?t=144


It's not the greatest but better than not having a reverse thrust.

[★Macman★]

Cyrusj eredeti hozzászólása:

you can bind a key to set the reverse thrust at full and then wiggle the throttle when you want to go back to idle.

Thanks I may need it like that really as it's very odd to set IDLE not to zero. The whole integration of REVERSE is also parodied by the REVERSE PROPS BIND by MSFS which is actually 'FEATHER' whilst the FEATHER PROPS is the REVERSE PROPS function

It's all a bit (sorry for the pun coming) B A C K W A R D S

[★Macman★]

Schmegg eredeti hozzászólása:

"They can't be imported, you will really have to do it like a real pilot does. Again, this is a commuter, not flightplans of many pages so not a real issue in our mind. Also behind this decision is that we are forced to use our own navdata database and that might now be the same database as the default sim."

That was their actual quote and yet I can not get many Waypoints to join up even after deleting Discontinuities PLUS some Airports are NOT IN THE DATABASE so they are clearly NOT the same as the updated AIRAC MSFS uses now. e.g. Look for >FADX next to Capetown >FACT, South Africa. Just perhaps that's due to not being long enough for Takeoff (just ditched it lol).

[★Macman★]

Cyrusj eredeti hozzászólása:

you can bind a key to set the reverse thrust at full and then wiggle the throttle when you want to go back to idle.

• I found another perhaps more fitting solution - to use the ARM LEFT & RIGHT REVERSE Switches for OFF.
  
  
• Next to edit the config file to get Auto-Retract Spoilers as I am legally aloud to on my own PC huh. So MAN & AUTO do not work. Only partly for MAN and no retracting.
  * Searched but can not find anywhere to edit this in any cfg file.