Combat Flight Simulator 4

[MagiX-FX]

one day hope for a combat flight simulator 4

[DumbCatFace]

That would be cool with the sim they have now

[Twelvefield]

I'm not as big of a military aviation enthusiast as I once was. There's just something about the way modern games in that genre are put together that strip away the appeal. Even so, I'd pay for a copy of the new CFS.

[Sandhill]

Its a pretty big ask that all developers would subscribe to the same standards of weapon modeling, flight models, damage models etc. A mix of models would make combat pointless.

[Maki Nishikino]

I don't think it will happen, the competition out there is quite fierce.

[caaront]

Would be cool.

[Employce Mustwashands]

DCS...

[Twelvefield]

Originally posted by Sandhill:

Its a pretty big ask that all developers would subscribe to the same standards of weapon modeling, flight models, damage models etc. A mix of models would make combat pointless.

That's what I thought in Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, when I put virtual Chuck in the Mustang and me in the F4-E, and we went head to head. Well, more like nose to ground for me.

Microsoft as a whole is bigger than any pretty big ask. Some on this forum might go so far as to claim that Microsoft are the biggest ask-whol... whoops, I mean the largest software company that can reasonably enforce their own demands upon the consumer. If they decide to set a standard, that standard is set. It may not be the one everyone wants or needs, but it will be a standard. *cough*cough*Zune*cough*cough

Regardless, such a sim would be years away, and it would have to be something the XBOX crowd would want. I'd expect a new Crimson Skies before a new CFS.

[Sandhill]

Originally posted by Twelvefield:

Microsoft as a whole is bigger than any pretty big ask. Some on this forum might go so far as to claim that Microsoft are the biggest ask-whol... whoops, I mean the largest software company that can reasonably enforce their own demands upon the consumer. If they decide to set a standard, that standard is set. It may not be the one everyone wants or needs, but it will be a standard. *cough*cough*Zune*cough*cough

Regardless, such a sim would be years away, and it would have to be something the XBOX crowd would want. I'd expect a new Crimson Skies before a new CFS.

Oh I fully agree that it would be a long way off if ever. Just setting meaningful standards would be a whole new thing. There seems to be at best extremely lax rules right now for something as relatively simple as flight modeling...MS do not yet seem to have set a standard in that area. Going to something as massively more complex as combat and having strict rules imposed might just be a non-starter.

[Betty]

Why... there is likely never to be a piloted combat situation again.

[CobraA1]

Originally posted by WickeySticket:

That would be cool with the sim they have now

I'd like to see more consistent framerates, the game is fine for just flying, but IMO not good enough for combat.

[Ch0ke]

DCS > CFS

[Dazven]

Originally posted by CobraA1:

Originally posted by WickeySticket:

That would be cool with the sim they have now

I'd like to see more consistent framerates, the game is fine for just flying, but IMO not good enough for combat.

Exactly.

With DCS and VR I get better frames than MSFS on a monitor. This would be absolutely pitiful as a combat flight sim due to that.

I'd love to see something on the level of DCS with the same graphical fidelity and freedom as MSFS, but MSFS lacks in the performance department. Until performance improves Asobo can add whatever they want in terms of complexity, but it will be subpar as a platform if one is to treat it as an alternative to a sim like DCS for combat.

The best we may get is something like the VRS Rhino and Tacpack until then.

[Schmegg]

Yep - different cattle. DCS does not attempt to simulate the whole earth in photo-reality with AI enhancements by streaming assets over the internet to a rendering pipeline. It's ambitious and it works pretty well. But nowhere near what locally installed canned visual databases can in terms of fps.

[Maki Nishikino]

Would be neat to see TacPack in MSFS but I don't think we ever will.

[Duke]

Originally posted by Employce Mushwashands:

DCS...

Wot he said ^.