Rudder pedals

[ZombieHunter]

Anyone have a good suggestion for rudder pedals? All of the sets that I see have this annoying heel rest on the bottom of the pedal. And while that might be nice to rest your foot on the pedal NO ONE flies like this. Toes at the bottom of the pedals and heels to the floor. Kinda hard to do with the raised lip at the bottom of the pedal.

[Boom Erang]

I love my MFG crosswinds. I have had them for a few years and fly an awful lot.
I have used them in DCS and x-plane as well but only fly MSFS right now.
Setup for MSFS is a tiny bit odd but it works great in the end.
The only thing is they may be too good.
I doubt you'll find many small or older aircraft with amazing pedals like these.
Adjustable every which-a-way. Far superior to most I have seen.
I cranked the springs up and mounted them and a sport car seat which is adjustable back and forth like the car seat it is and my throttle to a door with 6 rolling casters on the bottom . ($35 junkyard cost). Easily moved for cleaning etc.
I can feel the wind.
https://mfg-sim.com/en

[Sandhill]

Originally posted by Mondyrocks:

Originally posted by ZombieHunter:

My wheel is a Logitech G27 and those pedals are built for racing not flying.

I used to own the thustmaster rudder pedals, the black ones with the removable heel rests and they were truly awful.

I now use my Thrustmaster T3PA pro racing pedals.
Set them to "combined" in the game controller settings and you can use the brake and accelerator pedals as your rudder.
This gives far more control than the rudder pedals (no doubt there are some good rudder pedals available, but the black thrustmaster ones don't fall into this category, imho.
They don't move then when you apply a tiny bit more pressure they move miles too far, they also have a much bigger footprint because of the way they work).

You lose toe brakes but that's more than manageable.
I actually use the clutch pedal as a brake anyway.

Some driving pedals do make better rudder pedals than some purpose built rudder pedals, simple fact. You don't get much for your money with the lower end rudder pedals. Agreed G/25-27-29 pedals aren't much to begin with, but they are about equal to the low end rudder sets (bad vs bad). And again, free is a good thing. Save 150 by not buying crap, use the auto pedals for a while and set aside some cash, and if you find you really are using the auto pedals as rudder pedals a lot, spring for some good ones.

Posture and knee problems are not so dependent on original purpose of the pedals, more just how your cockpit is arranged. If pedals work driving, where you are on the throttle always and the clutch on and off, they'll be fine flying where you rarely touch either.

[Sandhill]

Originally posted by Rever:

Originally posted by Buktu:

No, they could not be more apart from each other.

Yes but they are both here.

In this very thread

[ZombieHunter]

I bought the Logitech's and they came in today. The slide mechanism is odd b/c I thought they would be more push oriented but whatever it seems to work well enough. Anything is better than twist rudder.

[Sandhill]

Originally posted by ZombieHunter:

I bought the Logitech's and they came in today. The slide mechanism is odd b/c I thought they would be more push oriented but whatever it seems to work well enough. Anything is better than twist rudder.

Glad you're happy. Yes, having to engage twist rudder for any period of time is unpleasant indeed, truly awful in a helicopter.

[unknown]

You have 3 main options. The thrustmaster tpr pedals, the redbird pedals, and the VKB pedals. The thustmaster and redbird pedals are super expensive. I would recomend the redbird over the thrustmaster pedals as they are more realistic and thustmaster is horrible if you ever have anything go wrong on you, but they are both very expensive at the 600 dollar pricepoint.

the VKB pedals do not have towbrakes, but they are very accurate and while not the most realistic in terms of actual movement, they do better represent the usage of your toes being the part moving the pedal as opposed to your entire legs and they in general best represent helecopter pedals. They are also on the cheaper end of things in terms of cost and is your best bang for the buck as they are full metal with an adjustable spring tension and cam system.

[Sandhill]

Originally posted by unknown:

You have 3 main options. The thrustmaster tpr pedals, the redbird pedals, and the VKB pedals.

?
Virpil, MFG Crosswind, etc etc, I think not just 3...

[startrekmike]

Originally posted by Sandhill:

Originally posted by unknown:

You have 3 main options. The thrustmaster tpr pedals, the redbird pedals, and the VKB pedals.

?
Virpil, MFG Crosswind, etc etc, I think not just 3...

For real. The Red Bird, TM TPR, and VKB pedals are probably some of the worst choices if you are looking for a lot of "bang for your buck". They are all really good at what they set out to do but they are not even nearly the only good choices (and probably not even the best choices for most people).

My first set of (non-home built) pedals were the CH's. They were not the most accurate and not the most fancy but they were rugged and cheap enough to be the best "entry level" solution without getting into the unreliable sub-$200 offerings by other companies. I liked them quite a bit but I never really felt the need to see them as some kind of diamond in the rough that could rival higher-end setups. When the time came where a meaningful upgrade was practical, I didn't hesitate and I don't really miss the CH's.

Choosing my upgrade was a pretty long process. The big thing was that I wanted something built to last and with the option to repair/replace parts as needed. This single requirement pretty much took most of the pedals out there off the table. The only pedals that really seemed to be built to last and be serviceable were the MFG Crosswinds. When I did a bit more reading about them, it was pretty obvious that the guy who builds them cares a great deal about good design and workmanship while also not locking the owner out of the repair/upgrade process arbitrarily. It also helps that in comparison to a lot of other companies, the Crosswinds were a pretty solid "bang for the buck" and were not suffering from any serious price inflation issues.

When they came in the mail, it was rather shocking to see just how accurate they were and just how many customization options they offered. They may not look as realistic as other pedal setups but the guy who designs them did the right thing by focusing less on how they look and more on how practical and comfortable they are in a consumer flight simulation context SPECIFICALLY. He did not sacrifice function, durability, or practicality for the sake of misplaced cosplay desires.

[unknown]

Originally posted by Sandhill:

Originally posted by unknown:

You have 3 main options. The thrustmaster tpr pedals, the redbird pedals, and the VKB pedals.

?
Virpil, MFG Crosswind, etc etc, I think not just 3...

OP wanted pedals without the hell bump. Crosswinds have the bump and I forgot about virpil. Those are definatly an option.

[Tosei]

I use the Virpil Ace Interceptor pedals. I love them. Very comfortable and I like that you can have different springs with different resistance. Toe-brakes are also a clear plus. They are pricey though... as all of the Virpil stuff. Excellent quality but expensive.

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

I'd suggest avoiding the cheaper ones, particularly the Thrustmaster TFRP (ones that come with t.16000 pack etc). Get Virpil or MFG Crosswind, or VKB T-rudder if you don't desire toe brakes.

You might be very disappointed in the cheap Thrustmaster pedals, like I am. Especially for anything that actually needs a lot rudder use. They stink.

It's just one of those things that you're going to spend more money on, you get what you pay for. The cheaper stuff is total crap. I heard the Saitek ones aren't even a whole lot better.

[unknown]

Originally posted by Kyrsten Sinema's Left Nipple:

I'd suggest avoiding the cheaper ones, particularly the Thrustmaster TFRP (ones that come with t.16000 pack etc). Get Virpil or MFG Crosswind, or VKB T-rudder if you don't desire toe brakes.

You might be very disappointed in the cheap Thrustmaster pedals, like I am. Especially for anything that actually needs a lot rudder use. They stink.

It's just one of those things that you're going to spend more money on, you get what you pay for. The cheaper stuff is total crap. I heard the Saitek ones aren't even a whole lot better.

The saitek (now logitech) ones really are not worth the price. The vkb t-rudder while lacking toe breaks is smooth and very accurate. Accuracy is what matters most and in reality you do not use the brakes very often. A button on your hotas was enough for me for years until I upgraded to thrustmaster tpr pedal set (really regret going thustmaster over redbird). But even still the brakes are not necessary.

[Mondyrocks]

Originally posted by unknown:

Originally posted by Kyrsten Sinema's Left Nipple:

I'd suggest avoiding the cheaper ones, particularly the Thrustmaster TFRP (ones that come with t.16000 pack etc). Get Virpil or MFG Crosswind, or VKB T-rudder if you don't desire toe brakes.

You might be very disappointed in the cheap Thrustmaster pedals, like I am. Especially for anything that actually needs a lot rudder use. They stink.

It's just one of those things that you're going to spend more money on, you get what you pay for. The cheaper stuff is total crap. I heard the Saitek ones aren't even a whole lot better.

The saitek (now logitech) ones really are not worth the price. The vkb t-rudder while lacking toe breaks is smooth and very accurate. Accuracy is what matters most and in reality you do not use the brakes very often. A button on your hotas was enough for me for years until I upgraded to thrustmaster tpr pedal set (really regret going thustmaster over redbird). But even still the brakes are not necessary.

"Accuracy is what matters most" even lacking toe brakes.

Honestly, without toe brakes use your racing pedals, if you already have a racing wheel.
My pedals are VERY precise, and cost me precisely nothing, because I already had them....

[Maki Nishikino]

I have these but I don't use them often (I use the twist grip on my VKB Gladiator NXT most of the time)...

https://flypfc.com/shop/rudder-pedals/cirrus-rudder-pedals/cirrus-rudder-pedals-boeing/

They're very high quality.

EDIT: Picture of them on my other setup...

https://imgur.com/a/CJqBaND

[Mondyrocks]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

I have these but I don't use them often (I use the twist grip on my VKB Gladiator NXT most of the time)...

https://flypfc.com/shop/rudder-pedals/cirrus-rudder-pedals/cirrus-rudder-pedals-boeing/

They're very high quality.

EDIT: Picture of them on my other setup...

https://imgur.com/a/CJqBaND

Omg they're $845........