Resolution in VR

[tonybew]

Does anyone know what resolution MSFS 2020 uses in VR? 100% of what? Does the 100% mean 100% of the native resolution of the headset? I.e. in the case of the Reverb G2 2160 x 2160? I suppose so but I'm not sure because to get a 30+ fps with the settings I have set up I have to lower %age to 60% whereas with my racing sims I am running over 3000 x 3000 with Steam SS. The 60% looks OK if I stay over 2,000 feet over a Photo quality city.

[Schmegg]

I think the current beta testers have an NDA and probably can't say much just yet.

[Detective Dan]

引用自 Schmegg：

I think the current beta testers have an NDA and probably can't say much just yet.

i'm in the vr beta and i can confirm that we can't say ♥♥♥♥.

But what i can tell you is it's more important to have consistent frames than high resolution.

[Team Triss]

引用自 Portalearth：

引用自 Schmegg：

I think the current beta testers have an NDA and probably can't say much just yet.

i'm in the vr beta and i can confirm that we can't say ♥♥♥♥.

But what i can tell you is it's more important to have consistent frames than high resolution.

Yeah, but stuff has to be readable.

[whitbymermaid]

引用自 LoR Team Triss：

引用自 Portalearth：

i'm in the vr beta and i can confirm that we can't say ♥♥♥♥.

But what i can tell you is it's more important to have consistent frames than high resolution.

Yeah, but stuff has to be readable.

Ah, the VR equation!

High graphics + high resolution (to read instruments) = poor frame rates (motion sickness)

[Detective Dan]

引用自 LoR Team Triss：

引用自 Portalearth：

i'm in the vr beta and i can confirm that we can't say ♥♥♥♥.

But what i can tell you is it's more important to have consistent frames than high resolution.

Yeah, but stuff has to be readable.

fair enough. my rig is as follows:

Ryzen 7 2700x
32gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz
Radeon MSI 5500 XT OC
Oculus Rift S

i won't tell you my exact VR settings or experience(for fear of breaking NDA) but i feel like i can tell you there's very little chance you'll get me to play the game in 2D again

[Schmegg]

引用自 Portalearth：

i won't tell you my exact VR settings or experience(for fear of breaking NDA) but i feel like i can tell you there's very little chance you'll get me to play the game in 2D again

We'll see. Respect your contributions, but I'm skeptical you'll find spending hours in VR in a flight sim that compelling and fantastic that you'll never play on a screen again. I reckon that'll be the case for a while, but you'll get sick of being in the headset for long periods and not knowing what's going on around you. I think that'll be the case for many, but I'm expecting a lot won't admit it because VR seems to be a geeks paradise and a large investment that is defended strongly. BTW - I have VR myself, and that's my experience, so I'm not talking from a position of ignorance or jealousy.

[tonybew]

引用自 Schmegg：

引用自 Portalearth：

i won't tell you my exact VR settings or experience(for fear of breaking NDA) but i feel like i can tell you there's very little chance you'll get me to play the game in 2D again

We'll see. Respect your contributions, but I'm skeptical you'll find spending hours in VR in a flight sim that compelling and fantastic that you'll never play on a screen again. I reckon that'll be the case for a while, but you'll get sick of being in the headset for long periods and not knowing what's going on around you. I think that'll be the case for many, but I'm expecting a lot won't admit it because VR seems to be a geeks paradise and a large investment that is defended strongly. BTW - I have VR myself, and that's my experience, so I'm not talking from a position of ignorance or jealousy.

I started this so I'd better chip in. If I broke the NDA then sorry but......

My spec is -
Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz
32 GB Ram
SSD for system and game
RTX 2080
HP Reverb G2 headset

Without breaking the NDA again (I hope) I mostly agree with Portalearth although the MSFS 2020 simulator does look rather stunning on my AOC C4008VU8 40 inch curved 4K monitor so maybe I might use that occasionally. For me, I wear multifocal glasses with a prescription which scares off the VR insert makers, the HP headset has allowed me to really enjoy VR for the first time, after a couple of earlier WMR headsets and renting a Vive.

I also have a triple screen set up for sim-racing and I certainly will still use that a lot for that. But flying in VR if the vision is clear and focused all round is just a wonderful experience especially if you can fly photo like scenery at a low altitude with a passable frame rate. This is the holy grail of flight simulation for me and a lot of other people.

[Easy]

Schmegg I read your comment thinking you were none VR until the last sentence! I have 400+ hours on DCS in VR and trust me I stand with many in the view that FS2020 will never see 2d again once the 23rd December arrives. Maybe you need to give it a second chance ?

[Detective Dan]

引用自 Schmegg：

引用自 Portalearth：

i won't tell you my exact VR settings or experience(for fear of breaking NDA) but i feel like i can tell you there's very little chance you'll get me to play the game in 2D again

We'll see. Respect your contributions, but I'm skeptical you'll find spending hours in VR in a flight sim that compelling and fantastic that you'll never play on a screen again. I reckon that'll be the case for a while, but you'll get sick of being in the headset for long periods and not knowing what's going on around you. I think that'll be the case for many, but I'm expecting a lot won't admit it because VR seems to be a geeks paradise and a large investment that is defended strongly. BTW - I have VR myself, and that's my experience, so I'm not talking from a position of ignorance or jealousy.

to be fair, it didn't dawn on me regarding VR fatigue until after i got the messaging saying i'm part of the VR beta. I prefer long-haul tubeliner flights and the implications of having an expensive plastic box strapped to my face. I can hardly go for more than a couple hours lol before i need a break. It's possible they'll add the ability to swap between VR and non-VR at will. It'll allow those who prefer to fly tubeliners the ability to continue their flight without melting their eyes out. That is, Start in VR, get to cruising, switch back to pancake, go watch a movie in the other room, come back, switch to VR and land the plane

[ziher]

My MSFS flight time skyrocketed after VR beta. Prior i had around 30 hrs in pancake of which about half was installing stuff and right now i'm at 125 hrs in few weeks. It also ruined other sims like IL2 and DCS for me, for now at least. No chance of playing this in pancake ever again.

[Schmegg]

引用自 Easy：

Schmegg I read your comment thinking you were none VR until the last sentence! I have 400+ hours on DCS in VR and trust me I stand with many in the view that FS2020 will never see 2d again once the 23rd December arrives. Maybe you need to give it a second chance ?

Look - I'll be the first to admit if I got this wrong. Also, everyone is different, so I'm certain there WILL be people that only play in a headset - particularly if they are only doing shortish duration flights in VFR.

Don't worry, I'll definitely be playing it in VR too! But probably not as much in VR as out of VR. And it's all based on my sim racing experience - which is a little less suitable to VR due to it's more physical nature and the need to stay totally focused and inside the headset the whole time. SO there's that. Also, I have triples, so there's that too.

VR is great - can't deny the immersion it brings - a real sense of actually being there. It's just in my experience it losses a lot of appeal when you have to spend hours in the headset.

Anyway - I knew what I said would be almost sacrilegious to some, so thanks to everyone for not flaming me. Appreciated. :-)

[Rever]

I like the religious like fervor that comes out of the pro-VR crowd. How dare you not like flying with a VR more than monitor? You are a heretic!

[Schmegg]

引用自 Rever：

I like the religious like fervor that comes out of the pro-VR crowd. How dare you not like flying with a monitor more than VR? You are a heretic!

Haha - yeah, I know. XD

Still, can kind of understand the way some become evangelists about VR. It IS very compelling in certain ways. Just as it also is less compelling in others.

I'm OK with those who want nothing more than to play in VR. I can understand that. But I do sometimes wonder how much some will stick with it - particularly those who do long-haul at high altitudes. And I wonder how many will admit, after it comes out and the dust has settled, that it is great but actually they play on monitors still for a lot of what they do in the sim. Hard to know. But I do know plenty in sim racing that have come and gone with VR. I think it's pretty well established with regular competitive racers that in that genre, triples are king, not VR. Might it be the same with hardcore flight simmers given time? We shall see.

引用自 Portalearth：

It's possible they'll add the ability to swap between VR and non-VR at will. It'll allow those who prefer to fly tubeliners the ability to continue their flight without melting their eyes out. That is, Start in VR, get to cruising, switch back to pancake, go watch a movie in the other room, come back, switch to VR and land the plane

Now that's a cracking idea and that would certainly go a long way to making VR a whole lot more appealing to me personally. You win a beer for best idea of the day. :-)

[TargetLost]

I can tell you my experience with Aerofly FS2 which has VR. Using my old Oculus Rift I tried once or twice to fly that flightsimulator again without VR. It ltteraly feels flat when you go from VR back to 2D in the same Game. You will not like it.

So I am very sure with this TopHeadsets like Reverb G2 etc which are so much better than my old Rift that going back to flat is even more something you will not like to do.

Simple put if you don't want to be stuck with VR in a Game never try it with VR! 3D the feeling to be really inside something too good of an experience.

The only Game I went back from VR to 2D is EuroTracker. I don't know why but there the VR didn't contribute much to my experience.

Well there is one more that Alien Game..where I get motion sickness in VR (turning feels really bad and wrong in VR).. there the outcome was that I simple stopped playing that game. :)

Look Forward to VR. Hmm somehow I miss my Reverb G2 delievery..shouldn't they be delivered by now!? I am in europe.

[Rever]

引用自 TargetLost：

Look Forward to VR. Hmm somehow I miss my Reverb G2 delievery..shouldn't they be delivered by now!? I am in europe.

Some deliveries are going to be delayed in the next month. Its like a traffic jam coming to shipping between added lock downs and Christmas, it will be too much for the system.