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LFW John Crichton 2020 年 8 月 28 日 上午 8:58
Clouds look odd with pixelated edges?
Anyone else had this?

Since install, all my clouds have an odd edge about them, like small square'ish pixels - also, so do some reflections?

John Crichton.

Ryzen5-3600, 32GB-DDR4, MSI1080.
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MugHug 2020 年 8 月 29 日 上午 9:01 
Seeing it on Ultra at 1080p in propeller aircraft. Very noticeable at times.

Hard not to focus on it at times as it is quite a significant effect on the screen close to the clouds.

Volumetric cloud plugins for X-Plane 11 provide pretty close to this look without that weird effect. Red Dead Redemption's volumetric clouds are also impressive.
jdoe666 2020 年 8 月 29 日 下午 12:59 
引用自 Guild Sweetheart
...I think people should not focus on it too much honestly....

Yeah, that is what I try and do, but for some of us with whatever issue this is, it is really, really noticeable. To the point that I have been doing flights in clear weather so I do not have to look at it :-(

引用自 MugHug
Seeing it on Ultra at 1080p in propeller aircraft. Very noticeable at times.

Hard not to focus on it at times as it is quite a significant effect on the screen close to the clouds.

Volumetric cloud plugins for X-Plane 11 provide pretty close to this look without that weird effect. Red Dead Redemption's volumetric clouds are also impressive.

I feel the same. The game is by no means broken or anything like that, but I would like to figure out what the resolution to this is. Is it a minor issue that only has an effect on a very small number of users or is it wide spread and people are just living with it with a /shrug? I assume that monitors are not the issue given any modern monitor running at 60hz and above?

I will keep tinkering and see if I stumble across something randomly..
LFW John Crichton 2020 年 8 月 31 日 上午 9:44 
Thanks Man.

引用自 jdoe666
引用自 Guild Sweetheart
...I think people should not focus on it too much honestly....

Yeah, that is what I try and do, but for some of us with whatever issue this is, it is really, really noticeable. To the point that I have been doing flights in clear weather so I do not have to look at it :-(

引用自 MugHug
Seeing it on Ultra at 1080p in propeller aircraft. Very noticeable at times.

Hard not to focus on it at times as it is quite a significant effect on the screen close to the clouds.

Volumetric cloud plugins for X-Plane 11 provide pretty close to this look without that weird effect. Red Dead Redemption's volumetric clouds are also impressive.

I feel the same. The game is by no means broken or anything like that, but I would like to figure out what the resolution to this is. Is it a minor issue that only has an effect on a very small number of users or is it wide spread and people are just living with it with a /shrug? I assume that monitors are not the issue given any modern monitor running at 60hz and above?

I will keep tinkering and see if I stumble across something randomly..
Semjase 2021 年 1 月 28 日 下午 5:30 
yep me to its really visible when you have lightning i think its really annoying.
Thorstorm 2021 年 1 月 28 日 下午 8:43 
引用自 jdoe666
引用自 Guild Sweetheart
...I think people should not focus on it too much honestly....

Yeah, that is what I try and do, but for some of us with whatever issue this is, it is really, really noticeable. To the point that I have been doing flights in clear weather so I do not have to look at it :-(

引用自 MugHug
Seeing it on Ultra at 1080p in propeller aircraft. Very noticeable at times.

Hard not to focus on it at times as it is quite a significant effect on the screen close to the clouds.

Volumetric cloud plugins for X-Plane 11 provide pretty close to this look without that weird effect. Red Dead Redemption's volumetric clouds are also impressive.

I feel the same. The game is by no means broken or anything like that, but I would like to figure out what the resolution to this is. Is it a minor issue that only has an effect on a very small number of users or is it wide spread and people are just living with it with a /shrug? I assume that monitors are not the issue given any modern monitor running at 60hz and above?

I will keep tinkering and see if I stumble across something randomly..

It's pretty much wide spread from what I've gathered but yes we learned to live with it lol.
It doesn't really bother me until I'm at FL300 overcast with a floor of grainy clouds, otherwise it's not too bad.
Twelvefield 2021 年 1 月 29 日 上午 12:30 
Old thread. You can try dialling the clouds down from Ultra to High, that did the trick for me. There's not a lot of difference between Ultra and High clouds, but you do lose the pixel fringe. This is something Asobo is aware of.
Vee 2021 年 1 月 29 日 上午 3:57 
引用自 Twelvefield
Old thread. You can try dialling the clouds down from Ultra to High, that did the trick for me. There's not a lot of difference between Ultra and High clouds, but you do lose the pixel fringe. This is something Asobo is aware of.

doesnt work for me :)
cube 2021 年 1 月 29 日 上午 4:15 
As far as I can tell the clouds are using BSP voxel trees. These are very good at creating general shapes but they're inefficient at creating detail, requiring exponentially higher divisions. So you get more pixelation with more bumpiness because the voxels are too big. So cumulus clouds will always have this issue unless Asobo adds a new setting to increase the voxel tree resolution scaling (which will come with a gigantic performance hit).
Red Dead Redemption 2 has the same issue, though its clouds are far less detailed so you don't notice as much.
LFW John Crichton 2021 年 1 月 29 日 上午 6:50 
I found this and it worked great for me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUKrmaN98Uw

Twelvefield 2021 年 1 月 29 日 上午 9:51 
Dang, I'll have to try this. Good find, my friend!
Schmegg 2021 年 1 月 29 日 下午 1:49 
引用自 Twelvefield
Dang, I'll have to try this. Good find, my friend!

Did this one ages ago.

A few things to add about it ...

1. If you're running an Nvidia card, also make sure you have the Sharpen Filter turned off in the driver settings (it probably will be - but worth checking). Not sure if there is an equivalent for AMD cards sorry.

2. If you set the read-only flag and then later have problems with the sim after an update, it's possible this might be a problem. Personally, I don't do this - I just check and redo the settings after updates. Keep a back-up of the Usercfg and use a diff tool to merge after updates (if necessary- which is rarely anyway).

3. You'll notice a general softening of the entire game when you set Sharpen = 0. I've found a way to get some of it back without too big a hit on the cloud appearance. I run ReShade and apply a Lumasharpen filter - works good for me.
svennoj 2021 年 1 月 29 日 下午 2:15 
I play with sharpen off

{PostProcess
Enabled 1
EyeAdaptation 1
ColorGrading 1
Sharpen 0
Fringe 0
LensDistortion 0
Dirt 0
LensFlare 0
FilmGrain 0
Vignette 0
LensBlurMultiplier 1.000000
FringeMultiplier 1.000000
}

and super sample to get good looking results. Clouds are still a bit grainy but I only notice it when clouds move in front of the sun at sunset or sunrise.

Any sharpen setting only creates fake detail and makes any flaw stand out. The game still adds those contrast edges around lightning strikes and bright reflective rivers, no idea how you can turn that off. Maybe it has something to do with bloom?
Schmegg 2021 年 1 月 29 日 下午 2:31 
引用自 svennoj
Maybe it has something to do with bloom?

I have a theory it's something to do with TAA - but your theory is as good as mine. :-)
cube 2021 年 1 月 29 日 下午 3:39 
引用自 Schmegg
引用自 svennoj
Maybe it has something to do with bloom?

I have a theory it's something to do with TAA - but your theory is as good as mine. :-)

Sadly not, people thought the same about RDR2 but the pixelation isn't affected by any AA setting, depth of field or bloom.
SoullessGinger 2021 年 1 月 29 日 下午 3:50 
I am not sure of this but I have the same issue on my 1070, I have seen videos and streamers who have 2080's and above without having this issue so I am thinking it has something to do with the GPU being limited.
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