OnAir vs Air Hauler 2?

[Lymark]

I know AH2 is not available for MSFS yet, but besides the pricing, i'm curious to know how's Onair compared to Air Hauler 2 in terms of in-game depth and features? Which one do you guys prefer?

[lefty1117]

that's cool. there's room for all of them!

[Lymark]

Alright, so I just tried OnAir for a few hours, and I've got some questions.

It seems that having a FBO is pretty easy and cheap(unlike fseconomy), and I also find that there're more than a dozen of jobs in pretty much everywhere. How do people compete each others/or have the incentive to work with others, when one could be self-sufficient doing one own's FBO generated jobs?

[Arona]

OnAir's 57 euro 2 year pay looks better than World of Warcraft or Final Fantasy XIV...

[NinjaTrek2891]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lymark:

Alright, so I just tried OnAir for a few hours, and I've got some questions.

It seems that having a FBO is pretty easy and cheap(unlike fseconomy), and I also find that there're more than a dozen of jobs in pretty much everywhere. How do people compete each others/or have the incentive to work with others, when one could be self-sufficient doing one own's FBO generated jobs?

There are three servers. Cumulus, Stratos, Thunder.

If you do the tutorial, you start on Cumulus. Which is the easiest server where you can cheat a little around.

Stratos and Thunder are survival servers and are harder. I don't know how FOB expenses are. But you only start with 10k cash. No plane. So you gotta rent one.

Difference between Stratos and Thunder is that Thunder has no AI pilots and players can join their airlines as far i know.

[Nadir D'Priest]

I use OnAir Company at the moment and really enjoy it - it's very good. I used Air Hauler 2 for many years previous and enjoyed that thoroughly and the Dev was pretty responsive to issues. I'll play OnAir until Air Hauler comes out. That said I dont think there is a great difference between both products - slightly differently presented - but all in all, the mechanics of both seem quite similar to me.

[lazarov27]

There's also the thing that OnAir is cross-sim. If you happen to be also using X-Plane, and want AirHauler with it too, you have to buy AH twice.

[Lymark]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von NinjaTrek2891:

Stratos and Thunder are survival servers and are harder. I don't know how FOB expenses are. But you only start with 10k cash. No plane. So you gotta rent one.

Difference between Stratos and Thunder is that Thunder has no AI pilots and players can join their airlines as far i know.

But how does competition work tho? An FOB cost ~4k, a new player could purchase two FOBs right off the bat. There're plenty of jobs and are unlikely to run out ever.

[Malkuth]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lymark:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von NinjaTrek2891:

Stratos and Thunder are survival servers and are harder. I don't know how FOB expenses are. But you only start with 10k cash. No plane. So you gotta rent one.

Difference between Stratos and Thunder is that Thunder has no AI pilots and players can join their airlines as far i know.

But how does competition work tho? An FOB cost ~4k, a new player could purchase two FOBs right off the bat. There're plenty of jobs and are unlikely to run out ever.

You have not seen the jobs that require 5-6 legs yet right.. 2 hours your still only seeing 1 leg or 2 leg jobs.

The idea is to split the difference with another player.. You do 3 of the 6 legs and he does the others.

Also you can buy planes and fuel off other players etc.. Or you can choose not to. Its really up to you.

You could also set and FBO up at a busy small airport that has no fuel... And or rent planes and install fuel tanks.. That way other players can buy your fuel and plan work-orders better..

There so many ways to work with others, you just have to think about it. You can also rent your planes to others..

[Lymark]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Malkuth:

You have not seen the jobs that require 5-6 legs yet right.. 2 hours your still only seeing 1 leg or 2 leg jobs.

What determines the number of legs(or 'difficulties'?). Is it by random, reputation or my own flight hours?

[moving-target]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Delle(DK):

I wait for Airhauler 2 ( cost about 45euro a one time purchase fee )
its larger, more advanced and better than what i see about onair that you even have to pay to use "again and again and again".

OnAir: Airline Manager - 1 Month Access Subscription for 31 days 9,00 € (7,56 € net)
OnAir: Airline Manager - 3 Months Access Subscription for 3 months 15,00 € (12,61 € net)
OnAir: Airline Manager - 6 Months Access Subscription for 6 months 21,00 € (17,65 € net)
OnAir: Airline Manager - 12 Months Access Subscription for 12 months 35,00 €

Air Hauler 2! Even if it should cost 50€!

[tmaddox]

I just did my first tutorial mission in OnAir since FSEconomy was having so many problems. It took me a couple of tries to complete the tutorial mission as I did not follow instructions well enough the first time. I was able to just delete my company and restart.

It is pretty slick. I will definitely use it as much as possible during my 7 day trial and the good news is that, even though it is a subscription service, it does not require you to enter any payment info during the trial period!!

I really liked the live tracking feature that tracked my hour long flight on a map. I was able to easily refer to it and see what towns I was flying over.

There is still a lot for me explore and get used to. For example I need to learn a few minor procedure for lights because I get dinged for taking off or landing without the proper lights.

[Malkuth]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lymark:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Malkuth:

You have not seen the jobs that require 5-6 legs yet right.. 2 hours your still only seeing 1 leg or 2 leg jobs.

What determines the number of legs(or 'difficulties'?). Is it by random, reputation or my own flight hours?

Well starting out with Cessna you get small jobs.. Usually only 1 leg.. But when your start buying bigger and faster planes that can carry more people and cargo.. The jobs get more well annoying.. Its not really annoying but you start getting jobs that have 3-4 legs..

And I'm pretty sure once you move up to airlines, its even worse. But of course they pay out lots more money.. Just takes a long time to do some of them.. hence why you need Employees and more airplanes... Or other players to help you.

[Ranger]

AH2, it's out, released 2day

[5n4k3d0cToR]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lalafell:

OnAir's 57 euro 2 year pay looks better than World of Warcraft or Final Fantasy XIV...:garbagecan:

LOL.... Can't compare those to a flight sim add-on really...But it did made me chuckle and i can see what you meant +1.

[TargetLost]

I am on OnAir.

To answer what one asked: FBO's cost you weekly. It's the running costs that limit's the FBO's + the manual task to refuel them almost daily. Last I do not understand why there is no automatisation.

What's nice they create community events. Just started another one this week. The rules make it so that you will fly different (different planes, loactions, challanges) than what you will normaly do.
They are time intense though.

OnAir is neat however after the 2 or 3 month I am with now.. it starts of wearing off off my interest.

AH I do not know till now.
I would like something with better passangers simulation since OnAir passengers are just cargo that needs flight assistants and from the pay you get not worth it.

Also there is no passenger atmosphere when flying lik eyou had with FSPassenger.