Yoke Jitter/Twitchy

[David Puddy]

I have a honeycomb yoke and noticed some slight jitter when rolling or pitching, like if you try to hold the yoke 40 degrees left or right, you'll notice a slight jidder when you look at the graphical yoke in the cockpit. (it looks like a mild vibration) It doesn't effect the flying but an annoying observation. I have tried re-calibrating and playing with sensitivity and dead zones , also plugging into a powered usb hub or directly into pc. I even bought a second one to see if it made a difference but it's the same. Does anyone else have this and if you could try this? goto into a plane that's not moving and roll the yoke slowly left and right, try to hold it stead say between 30-40 degrees and see if you notice any slight jitter? thanks.

[David Puddy]

nobody, dam

[Gormash]

I can't say I've noticed this.
I'll give it a try next time I'm flying.

[𝓕𝔁]

I'm using an x52 and have things like trim on a rotary dial.. and throttle on an axis (of course).
I see the same as you are describing. My throttle / trim is set and static, but in the cockpit there's a lot of jittering from these controls, which only stops when I am in neutral positions.

[David Puddy]

Publicado originalmente por Gormash:

I can't say I've noticed this.
I'll give it a try next time I'm flying.

thanks, please keep me posted

[David Puddy]

Publicado originalmente por RWB FxUK:

I'm using an x52 and have things like trim on a rotary dial.. and throttle on an axis (of course).
I see the same as you are describing. My throttle / trim is set and static, but in the cockpit there's a lot of jittering from these controls, which only stops when I am in neutral positions.

thanks, its not major but only noticeable when viewing the graphical yoke in the cockpit. Generally i don't notice any jittery movement but sometimes at a certain point in the axis, you can see it 'jitter'. I don't think i got 2 defective honeycombs, i'm guessing this is fairly normal, just trying to confirm. I will be sending one back of course. Otherwise this yoke is fantastic for the money.

[nko][Bobobski]

I just tested mine which is only a couple of months old. Yes, mine has a bit of jitter just as you described, however, I'm pretty sure it's not due to bad pots (i.e. cheap/faulty/damaged) but the opposite. I'm thinking it's actually due to the accuracy and relatively high resolution, which translates even the tiniest movement.

What we're seeing is the pots picking up muscles tremor, because when I turn it to various angles and fix it in place with a zip tie it settles down instantly after letting go. This seems to fit in with my experience of other high res controllers. I also have a Virpil base and it comes with a really good setup and testing utility which sets a 2% dead zone and an amount of smoothing by default, they recommend you keep it that way due to the high resolution of the hal sensors.

As you say, nothing to worry about, especially given all the turbulence and such that the game adds to flight, didn't even notice anything until you mentioned it.

[David Puddy]

Publicado originalmente por nkoBobobski:

I just tested mine which is only a couple of months old. Yes, mine has a bit of jitter just as you described, however, I'm pretty sure it's not due to bad pots (i.e. cheap/faulty/damaged) but the opposite. I'm thinking it's actually due to the accuracy and relatively high resolution, which translates even the tiniest movement.

What we're seeing is the pots picking up muscles tremor, because when I turn it to various angles and fix it in place with a zip tie it settles down instantly after letting go. This seems to fit in with my experience of other high res controllers. I also have a Virpil base and it comes with a really good setup and testing utility which sets a 2% dead zone and an amount of smoothing by default, they recommend you keep it that way due to the high resolution of the hal sensors.

As you say, nothing to worry about, especially given all the turbulence and such that the game adds to flight, didn't even notice anything until you mentioned it.

thanks for your feedback, sorry shouldn't mention it eh? ignorance is bliss, hahah but i'm glad you noticed the same thing which makes me believe this is within 'normal' . you have the honeycomb as well?

[David Puddy]

also if you have a tool called DiView, you can check out all your peripherals and check for this type of behaviour.

[nko][Bobobski]

Yes, it's the Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls, best yoke I've ever used, pretty pleased with is so far. On a further note, it's possible that Microsoft will add a smoothing utility in the setup during future updates, but I'm guessing they use an internal smoothing algorithm anyway, because I'm also using a Saitek throttle quadrant (until the Honeycomb one gets released ), and the pots on that are terrible, pretty spiky, but still very usable in the game.

[David Puddy]

Publicado originalmente por nkoBobobski:

Yes, it's the Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls, best yoke I've ever used, pretty pleased with is so far. On a further note, it's possible that Microsoft will add a smoothing utility in the setup during future updates, but I'm guessing they use an internal smoothing algorithm anyway, because I'm also using a Saitek throttle quadrant (until the Honeycomb one gets released ), and the pots on that are terrible, pretty spiky, but still very usable in the game.

yea, waiting for the honeycomb throttle as well.

[Gormash]

Just tried it and my Honeycomb has the same jitter on the in-cockpit yoke. Flies smoothly though, so looks to be just cosmetic.

[David Puddy]

Publicado originalmente por Gormash:

Just tried it and my Honeycomb has the same jitter on the in-cockpit yoke. Flies smoothly though, so looks to be just cosmetic.

thanks for your confirmation, i can rest easy now, hahah. To add, you can see the jitter in a third party tool called DiView, so the jitter does exist and is not just cosmetic, however, it's very minor and doesn't seem to effect gameplay in any way, but it is relaying the jitter to the graphical yoke in the cockpit. anyway i think im content at this point.

[David Puddy]

my 2nd one also had a physical clicking or scraping sound while pushing in the yoke. i opened it up and found one of the cables getting in the way so had to add another cable tie to resolve, haha

[ZombieHunter]

It is most likely due to potentiometer drift. The pots in your yoke aren't holding a constant number....and none really do. This is why you can set dead zones. Pots drift all the time and they get worse over time. The jitter will always be there so set your deadzone just large enough to stop it.

[David Puddy]

thats crappy if it gets worse over time, they are both brand new, ha