Aircraft keeps pitching up

[K.Kento]

I am currently testing out various aricrafts and flying around different cities to get used to the sim. However, i noticed that the aircraft constantly pitches up when trying to get it to level and this does not happen to me in XP11 or FSX unless i set the trim pretty high

[jmitchin]

This is true Fire. The piper cub trimmed fine and flew for some time without needing further trimming.

[♀⛤WitchyWoman⛤♀]

You really should be using a hotas and have trim assigned to a hat switch or rotary dial as well as a trim reset button. I will never understand why anyone flies with a keyboard or mouse as their only controls. That may work for an action game but not a dedicated simulation.

[skrubeck]

I've got my Honeycomb yoke set up the same way in MSFS 2020 as I do in X Plane-11 using buttons 5&6 for nose up and nose down elevator trim. There is no comparison between the two sims in the functionality. Trimming in X Plane is smooth and consistent while the same input in MSFS 2020 is either minute or sends the trim wheel spinning. It doesn't seem to matter if you're flying the 172 or the TBM 930, you have to just keep tapping the switches until you reach something close to flyable. I was hoping the last update would have corrected a known flyabilty problem but apparently it didn't. Hopefully, the next update will address this issue.

[Fehr]

I've noticed in many aircraft I call pull up, and the second I try to dive bomb, the plane Auto levels out and keeps climbing. Its like the fricken crontrols are broken. I cant even land a plane. I dont have Auto pilot on, because I am in control.

[magnetite]

I had noticed my Saitek X52 pitching up and being really sensitive. I tried re-calibrating it which kind of worked. However, I had noticed the stick and such was kind of dirty. I cleaned it with a cloth and used an electric duster on it, then tried calibrating it. I immediately noticed the control axis weren't going all haywire after that.

Something to try

[skygod765]

Escrito originalmente por K.Kento:

Escrito originalmente por Neo:

Just move the elevator trim to calibrate the nose with your yoke position so you don't have to keep pushing it.

meaning i have to constantly set my trim every now and then?

Essentially, yes. Anytime the aircraft changes state (pitch, power, flaps, gear, etc) there is a a corresponding trim change. EVERY. TIME. Trim is not a once occasionally type of flight control. It is a fundamental flight control.

[L3alwa]

decrease throttle

[Nollix]

Escrito originalmente por Fehr:

I've noticed in many aircraft I call pull up, and the second I try to dive bomb, the plane Auto levels out and keeps climbing. Its like the fricken crontrols are broken. I cant even land a plane. I dont have Auto pilot on, because I am in control.

Learn how lift works. It is proportional to your airspeed. Now consider the consequences of this dynamic.

[badasscat2000]

Escrito originalmente por skygod765:

Escrito originalmente por K.Kento:

meaning i have to constantly set my trim every now and then?

Essentially, yes. Anytime the aircraft changes state (pitch, power, flaps, gear, etc) there is a a corresponding trim change. EVERY. TIME. Trim is not a once occasionally type of flight control. It is a fundamental flight control.

It's technically a secondary flight control, but you are correct otherwise. A lot of the things that people are complaining about with regard to flight controls in this sim are the way real airplanes work, and they're just not used to it. In a real airplane you're trimming almost constantly if you're not on autopilot (and if you are, the AP's doing it - you can watch it happen as the trim wheel moves on its own).

Modern controllers and HOTAS systems don't really model this at all, which is a shame and one of the major limitations of even the most advanced PC controllers. Because of this, I'm pretty sure MSFS doesn't allow you to model a proper trim wheel either. Many airplanes with AP systems do have electric trim, so that's what the sim models, but you wouldn't normally be using this when flying manually (and obviously not in aircraft that *don't* have it). So it's a little weird to do it the way the sim seems to want you to.

But most planes that have electric trim have it set up as a switch on top of the stick or left side of the yoke, so I'd set that up in the sim if your stick/yoke has switches in those positions. Then use it *all the time*. It's not a "set it and forget it" thing. You get your aircraft in the attitude and energy state you want it and then immediately trim. When you can let go of the controls and the plane stays the way you want it, you're properly trimmed. You do need to do this every time you make a change. Real pilots (like me) do it almost unconsciously, because the forces on the stick/yoke are such that it's actually uncomfortable if we don't. But I may trim multiple times on every leg of a traffic pattern, for example.

[ZombieHunter]

Most of the aircraft in this game behave as if the CG is well behind where it should be. I can tell you for sure the real world 152 on takeoff DOES NOT climb out like a homesick angel. Thank goodness. It is very easy to maintain a nice max climb in the 152 in real life. Not so here. It requires tons of down trim or it will go nose high into a stall. This is NOT how Cessna designed the real 152. It will climb but it won't try to do a 45 degree climb on you unless your trim is way off on takeoff. It is pretty ridiculous in this sim how much down trim some of the planes need. Way way way way too much lift or the CG and weight is way off. I also suspect this is why landing feels more like smashing it into the ground than landing b/c if you flare out correctly you will float over the runway FOREVER. This is not accurate. Yes there is ground effect etc but cmon. It is ridiculous.

[badasscat2000]

Have you tried adjusting your CG in the game?

[skrubeck]

I have my trim programmed to my Honeycomb yoke in XPlane and it works perfectly. I gave up on those keybinds in MSFS 2020 and switched to my prop control on the Logitech throttle which works great but it's definitely not the permanent answer. I've reported this trim issue so hopefully somebody at Asobo is paying attention to flyability issues. They've got a lot on their plates right now so it will probably take awhile to get it right but I'm sure they will eventually.

[banzai]

i fly mostly the "BUS" and at 38000ft in cruse auto pilot on,full manged mode the plane is pitching up about 10 deg irl it is like2.5 deg defenitly a annoying litle bug.

[Twelvefield]

I'm convinced trim is bugged when using AP. You can watch your trim wheel spin like crazy, or just look at the gauge in the exterior view. Something triggers the AP to peg the trim up. Personally, I think it's a bad interaction with ATC, as I normally get this problem right after ATC calls for an altitude change, usually down.

Turn off AP and you can resume your control of trim. Turn AP back on and trim gets pegged.