These AI Need to be NERFED

[Lasrever]

I just finished the Crown Jewel Ruby race with a decent time of 39 minutes and got beaten by Pablo (AI) which finished in a time of 35 minutes. Checked the leaderboard from others and saw that he beat the top person by 2 minutes. Absolutely ridiculous

[Beta Ray Jim]

"Chess-like" AI, according to the devs.


I like it.

[Amducias13666]

I think you should be able to choose the level instead of being expert.

[禾果子 Kakashi]

Originally posted by Amducias13666:

I think you should be able to choose the level instead of being expert.

Who would rather having 80% difficulty multiplier or even less on the payout for beginner AI and gradually increase to 120% for expert AIs?

[LlxxTprr]

I think having an AI like it is done in Chess is a very smart and unique approach for a driving game. I did not know something like this even existed - as today was the first time I heard about it. It must be really well thought-out and -through. Can't wait to play the game and see it in action.

[禾果子 Kakashi]

Originally posted by LlxxTprr:

I think having an AI like it is done in Chess is a very smart and unique approach for a driving game. I did not know something like this even existed - as today was the first time I heard about it. It must be really well thought-out and -through. Can't wait to play the game and see it in action. :greasysideup:

Those are not true AI, just hard-coded CPU players which also called AI players back in the days, they're pseudo AI that either dumb as ♥♥♥♥ or unfair as ♥♥♥♥ on the wrong hand.

Sophy AI players could do divebombs like TDU:SC ♥♥♥♥♥♥ AI but Sophy AI do observe the gaps between other cars and the apex to decide whether to divebomb or not on the fly, if you block them with precautions they would back off a bit or even round the outside to get things done, TDU:SC ♥♥♥♥♥♥ AI just divebomb into the pre-coded apex with permitted speed no matter what and glide through turns.

[Amducias13666]

Man If you want to see your curse words space out your letters or put a period between each leter

[^7rrr^5a^6u^5l^5i^6e^7lul]

Originally posted by Beta Ray Jim:

"Chess-like" AI, according to the devs.


I like it.

What does that even mean?

I came on here to see if I'm the only one getting seriously annoyed by the AI. I usually have to redo races 5-8 times just to place first, which really kills the fun.

I know my weaknesses when they happen, but 80% of the time I’m getting passed on straight roads where it’s painfully obvious some cars are just way faster than mine.

The thing is, I constantly have to dial down my tuning to meet the race criteria, which is, giving the glaring issues frustrating enough. But on the other hand, there's no effort to properly balance the AI cars, especially in terms of max speed. If it's okay to limit my car, why can't they balance the AI to ensure a fair competition? Something so basic would keep the game challenging without making it unfair!

[Amducias13666]

It's b,u,l,l,s,h,i,t. I've done the same damn race over 15 times and still can't get it done. It's pissing me off. And it won't let me use certain tires. It always puts it back to what I was using before.

[kf543]

I think what the game director means, that they automatically set the game AI based on an ELO algorithms based on the players previous performance. He hinted it's based on previous race results (and some more). So the flawed implementation at the moment basically means after a few races where you won the race, you get expert AI cars in every race. It doesn't account for the subsequent race failures of the player, that's probably the buggy part of the current implementation.

Unfortunately for us players, the algorithms seems to work sub-optimal at best.
Instead of being too proud of his game design idea, he should rather decide to give the player a AI slider to choose between easy and hard in 10 steps (like e.g. Forza Horizion).

Give us also a rewind function and a race restart function. And let the AI cars use the same vehicle physic as the player car. (at the moment the AI using some fake paths and little physic)

[jones3196]

I dont mind when the AI drives well, but being able to push me all over the road and I cant budge them a bit is kinda garbage. Also, I saw one of the AI cars in front of me completely flip over in the air, land on all 4 tires facing the right direction and then keep going, without ever losing speed. That's some next level BS.

[Wølff]

As Christian Horner said :
CHANGE YOUR ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ CAR

[Chili Duck]

I just did 4 "Crown Jewels" races and came in first in 2 of them (against AI). I came in 7th or 8th against the next 2 because the AI had reacted to my winning 2 in a row, and adjusted itself even harder.

On my 5th race the AI had adjusted back down again because I lost 2 races, and me and the 2 other humans in the lobby were all in the top 4 positions, trading positions as the race went on.

Maybe the AI "skill level" is chosen better when you have more humans in the lobby? The problem now is there's hardly ever anyone else in the lobby with me.

[禾果子 Kakashi]

Originally posted by Amducias13666:

Man If you want to see your curse words space out your letters or put a period between each leter

No, I'm going for the more powerful filtered words, especially for mobile browsers, seeing a bunch of emoji ❤️ appearing multiple times in a post is way more apparent than the unfiltered cuss word.

[^7rrr^5a^6u^5l^5i^6e^7lul]

Originally posted by Wølff:

As Christian Horner said :
CHANGE YOUR ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ CAR

To what? The Audi TT Coupé 2017 was considered "meta", and when i take a look at the current times for the tracks this car is always among the best. If they cannot balance this trash game maybe they let me hire AI drivers to race for me so i can just spectate and manage everything, fun times.

[★BigShot★]

Originally posted by LlxxTprr:

I think having an AI like it is done in Chess is a very smart and unique approach for a driving game. I did not know something like this even existed - as today was the first time I heard about it. It must be really well thought-out and -through. Can't wait to play the game and see it in action. :greasysideup:

dont over-think this - the AI is poppy-kok.

Completion-ists will, as always, find their way to finish the game but those who are not, might find it difficult to drudge up the motivation. The racing in this game is not as much fun as it should be, IMO.

...and that's unfortunate because this is a very race-centric game where there's not alot to do beyond making your way from 1 race to the next. it is a very shallow design.