The AI on Expert is absurd!

[lonelytraveller]

Even with your car finely tuned and to it's class limit. The lead AI ends up 11-12 seconds in front, even on a perfect drive. KT at least need to let us select between experienced and expert. No point in racing knowing you're going to get cheated on.

[Rawso]

They're beating Online top leaderboard actually. Enough said. Will continue to 100% the map in the meantime. I'm not putting a single wheel on S races until a fix. We shouldn't have to try this hard and use meta to enjoy whatever content.

[★BigShot★]

Yes,there are severe balancing issues as well as overly aggressive issues with the AI that need to be addressed in an early patch, hopefully.

[lonelytraveller]

Originally posted by Rawso:

They're beating Online top leaderboard actually. Enough said. Will continue to 100% the map in the meantime. I'm not putting a single wheel on S races until a fix. We shouldn't have to try this hard and use meta to enjoy whatever content.

100%. It's frustrating trying to progress. Every race is painful past level 20.

[lonelytraveller]

Originally posted by ★BigShot★:

Yes,there are severe balancing issues as well as overly aggressive issues with the AI that need to be addressed in an early patch, hopefully.

They need to sort it fairly quickly. The launch has done enough damage. Underneath, there could an excellent game here, and a worthy successor to TDU 1 & 2.

[FunteX]

Yea, they are basicaly waiting to block you, and ruin your overview so the fore runner can pull ahead. Its managable though, if not for every single race timing out . . .

[Crimzin]

Yea I have seen some strange stuff, fiat 500 is shockingly fast on any race with a straight, they will wiz by you like you are sitting still, Buggy's are untouchable in off road, you need a buggy to compete with them, just what I have seen so far.

[★BigShot★]

Originally posted by lonelytraveller:

Originally posted by ★BigShot★:

Yes,there are severe balancing issues as well as overly aggressive issues with the AI that need to be addressed in an early patch, hopefully.

Underneath, there could an excellent game here, and a worthy successor to TDU 1 & 2.

Oh I dunno bout that, I think it has a heck of a long way to go before it can be considered a solid successor to the franchise (houses & commercial real estate to buy, casino, other social places to interact, higher amounts of players allowed per server, live social events, having to EARN Fast Travel instead of it being given to you so early in the game, etc, etc)

Yep, has a looong way to go, but fixing the AI will be a necessary place to begin post release with their first patch.

[Jaeger Pilot]

The way the AI works now, is that it adjusts according to your placement. If you get 1st place in every race, you will be up against Expert AI. If you start losing, you will meet weaker AI. So just lose a few races by coming in last, and the next race you should get weaker AI.

[ruuusssell]

I started out with the mustang, even with 20 more rating points, I get smoked by the leader or the other two first cars. I was like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the mustang is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or what? So finaly find out that most of you just have the same issue

[lonelytraveller]

Originally posted by ★BigShot★:

Originally posted by lonelytraveller:

Underneath, there could an excellent game here, and a worthy successor to TDU 1 & 2.

Oh I dunno bout that, I think it has a heck of a long way to go before it can be considered a solid successor to the franchise (houses & commercial real estate to buy, casino, other social places to interact, higher amounts of players allowed per server, live social events, having to EARN Fast Travel instead of it being given to you so early in the game, etc, etc)

Yep, has a looong way to go, but fixing the AI will be a necessary place to begin post release with their first patch.

I agree, it's integral to the TDU DNA. I do really hope they get it right.

[lonelytraveller]

Originally posted by ruuusssell:

:cartmanmad: I started out with the mustang, even with 20 more rating points, I get smoked by the leader or the other two first cars. I was like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the mustang is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or what? So finaly find out that most of you just have the same issue :cartmansmile:

Just the way the game is atm. I don't want a cakewalk, but I don't want the AI to be unstoppable either. Hopefully they have some good updates for us.

[lonelytraveller]

Originally posted by Jaeger Pilot:

The way the AI works now, is that it adjusts according to your placement. If you get 1st place in every race, you will be up against Expert AI. If you start losing, you will meet weaker AI. So just lose a few races by coming in last, and the next race you should get weaker AI.

It's weird it works like this. Just give the playerbase a choice, then everyone would be happy. Expert AI definitely cheats, they plough into obstacles and don't slow down.

[Juliette Lázňovská]

It was quite hilarious - when I went into my first race in the GT class, there was a nice mix of new cars and the classics... Firstly - that alone is funny, comparing an electric monster as the Porsche Taycan with an Alpine from the 70s? In reality, not even close, yet in the game the Alpine flew right into first place, I didn't stand a chance with my SLS throughout the entire race and even the Porsches and Aston Martins had problems... But yeah, any time there was at least a bit of a straight line, they all passed me like nothing and in hairpin corners they seemed to have unlimited grip... I just gave up on races all together (except for off road, I seem to be doing just okay with my Range Rover, even against the Buggies, though they are really good... Tried it too, but just couldn't get over how insanely understeery it felt, the Range Rover is much better for me...) and I'm mostly just enjoying slow cruising, looking for coins and reputation boosts and wrecks and just enjoying the view...

[lonelytraveller]

Originally posted by Briketoslav Uhelný:

It was quite hilarious - when I went into my first race in the GT class, there was a nice mix of new cars and the classics... Firstly - that alone is funny, comparing an electric monster as the Porsche Taycan with an Alpine from the 70s? In reality, not even close, yet in the game the Alpine flew right into first place, I didn't stand a chance with my SLS throughout the entire race and even the Porsches and Aston Martins had problems... But yeah, any time there was at least a bit of a straight line, they all passed me like nothing and in hairpin corners they seemed to have unlimited grip... I just gave up on races all together (except for off road, I seem to be doing just okay with my Range Rover, even against the Buggies, though they are really good... Tried it too, but just couldn't get over how insanely understeery it felt, the Range Rover is much better for me...) and I'm mostly just enjoying slow cruising, looking for coins and reputation boosts and wrecks and just enjoying the view...

It's unbelievable and laughable at the same time. Even if you do manage to get a bit of a lead. Any straight road they almost like rubberband straight to you and pass you by.

[M2Character]

Originally posted by Jaeger Pilot:

The way the AI works now, is that it adjusts according to your placement. If you get 1st place in every race, you will be up against Expert AI. If you start losing, you will meet weaker AI. So just lose a few races by coming in last, and the next race you should get weaker AI.

Are you sure? Interesting, I didn't know this