you can tell who played TDU1/TDU2 and who didnt

[TFerretNXG]

the ones who DIDNT are trashing this game. the ones who DID are lauding it as a triumphant return to form. im so excited for this game. just fix the server issues and change it so you dont have to wait 30 seconds for real people to join the SP races and its perfect. the burnout style sense of speed is awesome, the mustang sounds great, it feels like test drive unlimited all around. the task list has TDU style things to accomplish. theres wrecks. the game is setup for car appreciation. goated already.

[SirHawk]

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

I feel like they make quite a mistake calling it demo instead of open beta. For me and probably many ppl out there demo is associated with finished product and giving access to part of it and this is definitely still a testing phase for them just on larger scale and not a final build of the game.
And as some mentioned, unfortunately it will push away many ppl, who maybe were just interested in this game not knowing much about it and now trying out demo, they will not look at this game back again.

Because the game launches in 3 months, you've already been told that. Such a short period of time means, the current build is pretty much a release build, so of course it can't be beta.

[Thanteos]

Messaggio originale di SirHawk:

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

I feel like they make quite a mistake calling it demo instead of open beta. For me and probably many ppl out there demo is associated with finished product and giving access to part of it and this is definitely still a testing phase for them just on larger scale and not a final build of the game.
And as some mentioned, unfortunately it will push away many ppl, who maybe were just interested in this game not knowing much about it and now trying out demo, they will not look at this game back again.

Because the game launches in 3 months, you've already been told that. Such a short period of time means, the current build is pretty much a release build, so of course it can't be beta.

U know as much as me, talking about what build it is. Im assuming its earlier build and there is newer build they didnt release for this demo (based on what I've seen in closed betas). And u are assuming its final build before release which will be ''optimized'' in next 3 months. Either of us can be right. Im just trying to be more optimistic (maybe more than i should :P)

[SirHawk]

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

Messaggio originale di SirHawk:

Because the game launches in 3 months, you've already been told that. Such a short period of time means, the current build is pretty much a release build, so of course it can't be beta.

U know as much as me, talking about what build it is. Im assuming its earlier build and there is newer build they didnt release for this demo (based on what I've seen in closed betas). And u are assuming its final build before release which will be ''optimized'' in next 3 months. Either of us can be right. Im just trying to be more optimistic (maybe more than i should :P)

Why would you ever release a broken-ass, obsolete build just before launch, only to kill the sales? It's non-sensical, stop the coping and hurting yourself. Performance is broken on engine level, believing it's gonna be fixed is delusional. They can only do minor graphic setting tweaks to squeeze a bit more FPS, but people without NVMe are gonna have hard time (game uses DirectStorage), game doesn't support hyperthreading, have broken Reflex (this can be fixed), nothing about how the game looks justifies how just much power does it require. There's not even Ray Tracing, other than software voxel based global illumination, which exists for 12 years now.

[R4CER_ST0RM]

Messaggio originale di TFerretNXG:

the ones who DIDNT are trashing this game. the ones who DID are lauding it as a triumphant return to form. im so excited for this game. just fix the server issues and change it so you dont have to wait 30 seconds for real people to join the SP races and its perfect. the burnout style sense of speed is awesome, the mustang sounds great, it feels like test drive unlimited all around. the task list has TDU style things to accomplish. theres wrecks. the game is setup for car appreciation. goated already.

Wrong. I played both games for years, SC isn't quite there. A lot of attention to detail went through the window.

Custom gauges for each car ; gone.
An actual car key hands-off with a car key 3D model : gone.
A map so large you'll get lost : gone.
Houses you can buy and customize to your liking : gone.
Used car dealer : gone.
AI tough but balanced, and not broken : gone
Real-world car prices : gone

The mustang sounds good and the sense of speed is nice, there's wrecks and a task list and it sounds like TDU all around ??
You really sounds like YOU are the one who didn't played the previous entries of the franchise IMHO

[Thanteos]

Messaggio originale di SirHawk:

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

U know as much as me, talking about what build it is. Im assuming its earlier build and there is newer build they didnt release for this demo (based on what I've seen in closed betas). And u are assuming its final build before release which will be ''optimized'' in next 3 months. Either of us can be right. Im just trying to be more optimistic (maybe more than i should :P)

Why would you ever release a broken-ass, obsolete build just before launch, only to kill the sales? It's non-sensical, stop the coping and hurting yourself. Performance is broken on engine level, believing it's gonna be fixed is delusional. They can only do minor graphic setting tweaks to squeeze a bit more FPS, but people without NVMe are gonna have hard time (game uses DirectStorage), game doesn't support hyperthreading, have broken Reflex (this can be fixed), nothing about how the game looks justifies how just much power does it require. There's not even Ray Tracing, other than software voxel based global illumination, which exists for 12 years now.

You could basically say why releasing ''demo'' of the game at all if they were probably expecting some of these issues to come out ? I would say because they wanted more testing, especially on their online infrastructure. I've never even mentioned performance (but I agree with what you said about requirements not being justified), because this is not something I care about that much until its final release. How I felt about this demo build was based on my gameplay during closed beta which had exactly same content, thats why I said this build not being the latest one imo.

[SirHawk]

Servers stress testing is a whole different thing (which they failed spectacularly, for an online only game), than build testing right before a launch. Since you say the game is literally the same as before, this further proves that what we're seeing now is what we're getting in 3 months. They just can't do anything else due to how bad the engine is and most that will be done is minor tweaks, perhaps gameplay changes (please, for the love of god, at least delete the stupid unlocks based on career progression) and connectivity improvements.

Though seeing literally no public communication (perhaps on Discord there's some?) and just how bland the entire game is, how unpolished and rough the gameplay is, they just want this development hell to end and move on.

[Lumen]

Messaggio originale di SirHawk:

Servers stress testing is a whole different thing (which they failed spectacularly, for an online only game), than build testing right before a launch. Since you say the game is literally the same as before, this further proves that what we're seeing now is what we're getting in 3 months. They just can't do anything else due to how bad the engine is and most that will be done is minor tweaks, perhaps gameplay changes (please, for the love of god, at least delete the stupid unlocks based on career progression) and connectivity improvements.

Though seeing literally no public communication (perhaps on Discord there's some?) and just how bland the entire game is, how unpolished and rough the gameplay is, they just want this development hell to end and move on.

Unfortunately the developer-publisher is busy with business than developing an original video game.
I recommend leaving them to their fate and just forget about this game.
The developers have been in oblivion for months and then bam! - make pre-orders! - There's this option, and here's another! Buy it! Here's the demo and hasta la vista. - Of course, this is the wrong approach.

I had hopes for this game but alas, the developers don't want to make a game.

[Occasional Gamer]

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

Messaggio originale di Occasional Gamer:

This! That's the main reason I love FH, total freedom. By adding a stupid nfs style turf war to TDUSC they pretty much ruined the game for me. KT Racing doesn't understand what TDU is all about, they took various elements from TDU (and FH, Crew and NFS) and out them all in this game. I have no problem with that, but don't call it TDU if you don't plan on making a real TDU game.

Well your goal is to get cars obviously, but if u like getting bunch of cars for free thats fine, if thats what you looking for from these games. I just dont see how factions ruined the game for you ? I cant tell if you can avoid interacting with it, but I would assume its your ''freedom'' whether you join one of them or ignore it totally, u had also sth similar in TDU with clans and having exclusive cars associated with it.
They are definitely pushing the game towards what was original TDU all about, tho there are still some aspects missing or we simply dont know about them, since we havent got any additional content during the demo from what we already have seen during closed betas.

Who says I want my cars for free? TDU never game cars for free. TDU never had clans, I'm starting to wonder if you ever played those older games at all. NFS always had clans, TDU didn't.

[Thanteos]

Messaggio originale di Occasional Gamer:

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

Well your goal is to get cars obviously, but if u like getting bunch of cars for free thats fine, if thats what you looking for from these games. I just dont see how factions ruined the game for you ? I cant tell if you can avoid interacting with it, but I would assume its your ''freedom'' whether you join one of them or ignore it totally, u had also sth similar in TDU with clans and having exclusive cars associated with it.
They are definitely pushing the game towards what was original TDU all about, tho there are still some aspects missing or we simply dont know about them, since we havent got any additional content during the demo from what we already have seen during closed betas.

Who says I want my cars for free? TDU never game cars for free. TDU never had clans, I'm starting to wonder if you ever played those older games at all. NFS always had clans, TDU didn't.

TDU2 had clans. With exclusive cars associated with it like gumpert apollo and fxx.
With free cars I was referring to FH obviously, since you love that freedom, whatever it means in comparison to TDU.

[Occasional Gamer]

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

Messaggio originale di Occasional Gamer:

Who says I want my cars for free? TDU never game cars for free. TDU never had clans, I'm starting to wonder if you ever played those older games at all. NFS always had clans, TDU didn't.

TDU2 had clans. With exclusive cars associated with it like gumpert apollo and fxx.

Perhaps you mean those auto-clubs you could join multiplayer? That's something totally different than the 2 clans in TDUSC. Not part of the main game, never joined any of them.

[Thanteos]

Messaggio originale di Occasional Gamer:

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

TDU2 had clans. With exclusive cars associated with it like gumpert apollo and fxx.

Perhaps you mean those auto-clubs you could join multiplayer? That's something totally different than the 2 clans in TDUSC. Not part of the main game, never joined any of them.

Yeah thats what I meant, sorry in my mind clans, guilds, clubs comes down to the same thing and true they are different, but how does that affect the gameplay for you ? I just dont see this being breaking point by any means. As i mentioned earlier I dont even know if that's something u necessarily need to interact with, from what I've seen earlier you could easly ignore those races and just enjoy whatever is there to enjoy ;)

[Occasional Gamer]

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

TDU2 had clans. With exclusive cars associated with it like gumpert apollo and fxx.

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

TDU2 had clans. With exclusive cars associated with it like gumpert apollo and fxx.

Messaggio originale di Occasional Gamer:

Perhaps you mean those auto-clubs you could join multiplayer? That's something totally different than the 2 clans in TDUSC. Not part of the main game, never joined any of them.

Yeah thats what I meant, sorry in my mind clans, guilds, clubs comes down to the same thing and true they are different, but how does that affect the gameplay for you ? I just dont see this being breaking point by any means. As i mentioned earlier I dont even know if that's something u necessarily need to interact with, from what I've seen earlier you could easly ignore those races and just enjoy whatever is there to enjoy ;)

I have the feeling that you will get these annoying calls from them while trying to ignore them :-)

Anyway, I'm not buying, don't want an always online game and for sure not one that fails to connect. Seen enough, done with this game, going to buy FH5 instead now. Held off tha purchase to see how this would come along... not so good in my opinion.

[禾果子 Kakashi]

Messaggio originale di Occasional Gamer:

Messaggio originale di Thanteos:

Yeah thats what I meant, sorry in my mind clans, guilds, clubs comes down to the same thing and true they are different, but how does that affect the gameplay for you ? I just dont see this being breaking point by any means. As i mentioned earlier I dont even know if that's something u necessarily need to interact with, from what I've seen earlier you could easly ignore those races and just enjoy whatever is there to enjoy ;)

I have the feeling that you will get these annoying calls from them while trying to ignore them :-)

Anyway, I'm not buying, don't want an always online game and for sure not one that fails to connect. Seen enough, done with this game, going to buy FH5 instead now. Held off tha purchase to see how this would come along... not so good in my opinion.

If you're buying FH5 instead why you're still here XD? 🤣

This place is for the real fan already feeling good about that and praise Nacon and KT for their effort finally putting TDU:SC out in the wild.

[MONOBLOCKS]

It's wild that you played both of those games and think this one is good. Please, do not buy it. You will be without your money in 6 months to 1 year when the server shuts down and you can't play it anymore. It's a horrible excuse of a racing game.

[tnord1113]

Explain to me why some folks don't want free cars... I don't get it. You bought the game right... why can't everything be unlocked from the start. Then you don't have to waste endless hours grinding out $ to buy cars. Do you not have anything better to do with your time? or even other games to play? Isn't your time worth more than wasting on mindless driving around sub par cars to buy better cars when you could have just had them from the start?