Shame. No Offline Play = No buy

[HeOfManyGames]

No offline play = No buy

I adored TDU 1 and 2, but I cannot stand this toxic and completely unnecessary 'always online/online only' bollocks.

'Need for Speed' (2015) would have been my favourite game from the franchise since early 00's, would have spent dozens of hours + on it and happily bought DLC. Thing is, it was unplayable; but not because of bugs or optimisation....

Completely stable 65+mbps fibre optic internet my end, yet every 30-45 mins I got kicked off and lost progress/couldnt get back on, simply cos the servers were dogsh**e.

Equally the Crew 1 would have been great fun to go back to, except its getting taken down and will be permanently unplayable to everyone as of March 31st.

Both the latter mentioned games were fully playable and completable entirely solo. All world activities, challenges and story essential missions/races all featured fully implemented AI opponents and could be played entirely single player. Entire game could be traversed without missing anything, without there ever being the need for a multiplayer component.

And yet for some reason the dev's were like 'nah, unless you accept being permanently dependant on our servers and having annoying ghosts of other players distracting you all the time, you aren't allowed to play' 'Plus when we decide the game isnt worth supporting any more, you lose access and we take the game you paid for away from you.'

Why any devs/publishers think this is a good strategy, I have no clue. But its one of the very few things that will make me genuinely and instantly boycott a game without ever feeling a shred of regret or temptation.

I'm sure TDU:SC will initially get plenty of audience from lovers of PvP MMO type games etc. but I've also got little doubt that within a year or so, the player count will have dwindled to insignificance , whilst missing out on tens-hundreds of thousands of players who would have become dedicated players had there been a proper offline/singleplayer option.

[Cpt BaseballBatBoy™]

+1 deleted from Wishlist

[Zero McDol]

A definite no for me. I'm done with always-online games, as they've done nothing but ruin gaming and any sense of ownership of a purchased product.

Besides that, Forza has a offline mode, so I really see no point in downgrading my experience just because I'm nostalgic for a TDU experience (that won't be a TDU experience). Nope, not falling for it.

[docup87]

+1

[Occasional Gamer]

+1

[HDH63]

+1

[Vector3D]

This won't be moddable as TDU2 was?

[Occasional Gamer]

Originally posted by Vector 3:

This won't be moddable as TDU2 was?

Perhaps, but you will still need an online connection, you can mod it to offline. It's like the Crew, depending upon connection with a server to run. Server down? Game down. Server gone? Game gone. TDU2 didn't depend on server, TDUSC does. If KT Racing shuts down the servers, no mod will prevent the game from being shut down too. Your profile and game progress are probably stored online as well.

I still play TDU2 and TDU, both completely offline. with TDUSC that won't be possible.

[Vector3D]

Originally posted by Occasional Gamer:

Originally posted by Vector 3:

This won't be moddable as TDU2 was?

Perhaps, but you will still need an online connection, you can mod it to offline. It's like the Crew, depending upon connection with a server to run. Server down? Game down. Server gone? Game gone. TDU2 didn't depend on server, TDUSC does. If KT Racing shuts down the servers, no mod will prevent the game from being shut down too. Your profile and game progress are probably stored online as well.

I still play TDU2 and TDU, both completely offline. with TDUSC that won't be possible.

Aww what a shame! I really want to play TDUSC, but if it just get's shut down and will be gone forever then what's the point?
I must admit, I played TDU2 with friends because it was (not always working, connection issues) fun! A game there is designed for online play like this isn't much fun single-player. Okay the servers for TDU2 was online for seven years, but I wanted to play online after that.

You're sure modders (after TDUSC servers get shut down) can't just run a private server?

[WESTG4M3R4L1F3]

will this game be abandonned like train simulator game they have abandonner too?

[Occasional Gamer]

Originally posted by Vector 3:

Originally posted by Occasional Gamer:

Perhaps, but you will still need an online connection, you can mod it to offline. It's like the Crew, depending upon connection with a server to run. Server down? Game down. Server gone? Game gone. TDU2 didn't depend on server, TDUSC does. If KT Racing shuts down the servers, no mod will prevent the game from being shut down too. Your profile and game progress are probably stored online as well.

I still play TDU2 and TDU, both completely offline. with TDUSC that won't be possible.

Aww what a shame! I really want to play TDUSC, but if it just get's shut down and will be gone forever then what's the point?
I must admit, I played TDU2 with friends because it was (not always working, connection issues) fun! A game there is designed for online play like this isn't much fun single-player. Okay the servers for TDU2 was online for seven years, but I wanted to play online after that.

You're sure modders (after TDUSC servers get shut down) can't just run a private server?

If they even allow modding, since it's a mmo they might not allow it or perhaps it's not possible. Connecting to a server is mandatory, so an integral part of TDUSC. Not like TDU2 where it's optional. Rerouting to another server will probably be seen as cheating by the drm and there will be legal issues. Keeping a mmo alive is not up to anyone but the company, unless they give the coding to the community. There have been petitions to keep the Crew alive. Ubisoft says no and that's the end of the matter. If KT Racing or Namco say no, then nothing is going to happen. They're in full control of the game, unless they decide to give it to someone else. Legal nightmare...

[RTR_Frag]

I'm also waiting to see if an offline mode will be offered. I don't plan to buy it if it's online only.
If there really is no offline mode, the developers should remove the "playable solo" indication from the store page.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

when does this drop again? this year or next?

[Occasional Gamer]

Originally posted by RTR_Frag:

I'm also waiting to see if an offline mode will be offered. I don't plan to buy it if it's online only.
If there really is no offline mode, the developers should remove the "playable solo" indication from the store page.

They've stated twice that it will be online only, they're not going to offer offline.

[joquito]

Its going to be a GaaS and that means the longevity of the game greatly depends on high levels of engagement during its first year of release. So not only does the game have to be good, but it has to be marketed well too. Otherwise, they will kill the game within 2 years and move those resources to another project.

[Vector3D]

Originally posted by joquito:

Its going to be a GaaS and that means the longevity of the game greatly depends on high levels of engagement during its first year of release. So not only does the game have to be good, but it has to be marketed well too. Otherwise, they will kill the game within 2 years and move those resources to another project.

I'm hoping it will be online longer that TDU2 (7 Years) and since Free to play is now a thing, maybe it could benefit TDUSC to be? But it probably won't be/become free to play :s