Oh look... another pixel art farming game... pass

[Explicable]

Can indie devs just stop trying to remake 20000 versions of Stardew Valley? When I read the game description on an email I was pumped, but pixel art makes it an instant pass. Make a good 3D farming game. This pixel art indie crap is way out of hand.

[Silberstern]

Wow and who are you to judge a game which you didnt play one single second.

[Cryptyr]

Imagine being so sad that you waste energy posting a thread to complain about how much you hate a game you haven't played.

[VEE ☆]

i actually love the art style. the problem is the horrible saving mechanism. the BIGGEST issue stardew valley has is the force you to play the whole day to save and FOR SOME REASON all the stardew clones have just continued this feature. IT IS THE WORST! if you are gonna make a stardew clone at least improve upon the worst features of that game like come onnnn when will casual games actually feel casual

[Steve]

'horrible','the worst'. Get a grip, stop overreacting like a child,

[Tetonka]

Oh look, an opinion. Someone doesn't like something and desperately needs to tell the world about it and feels like they are the voice of the people. It's incredible that someone actually felt compelled to make such post and feel like it'd result in anything but embarrassment.

So you don't like pixel art games, someone else sure does. What do we do now?
I would strongly suggest playing games that you like and staying far away from anything else. That includes discussion forums that are in favor of things that you obviously don't like.

[VEE ☆]

Originally posted by Steve:

'horrible','the worst'. Get a grip, stop overreacting like a child,

-shrugs- the only one acting like a child here is the person insulting a stranger on the internet for no reason... i mean bro like what did i do to you lol.

i truly feel like its the worst type of saving mechanism and im allowed to feel that way and share my opinion. maybe its an intense choice of words but im not being malicious towards anyone so idk why you felt the need to be to me ! maybe you should try to show others more compassion it makes the world a better place !

[Tenoshii]

Originally posted by Explicable:

Can indie devs just stop trying to remake 20000 versions of Stardew Valley?

They can but they won't. The market for this game type isn't saturated enough yet.

Originally posted by Explicable:

Make a good 3D farming game. This pixel art indie crap is way out of hand.

Not every developer/studio can tackle the 3D aspect. The game doesn't need to be 3D to have a satisfying gameplay loop for the players who are in the market for it.

[GrundleGrump]

Originally posted by вιηєy01:

this isn't a problem.
the price is.

What's wrong with the price? It took years to make, seems very well made and most of the Stardew Clones are dreadful. This appears to be one of the top options and with AAA games at $70/£70 when most of them are broken messes, why is $20/£20 unreasonable? It's a full game with hours of play and if it's your sort of game-- it's worth it. I'd have happily paid more for Stardew with the amount of fun I've gotten from it.

[Tetonka]

@OP, seemed to me like you might not be up-to-date on existing and/or upcoming releases of the genre, but there are just as many 3D farming game attempts as there are 2D options. Many games tried to jump on the hype train around Stardew Valley and failed, some actually delivered something that is by all means a success that doesn't need a constant comparison to SV. Roots of Pacha is, in my opinion, the most promising 2D title of the past years, and it hasn't disappointed me so far. It's different from SV in so many ways that I really enjoy.
When it comes to 3D games, keep an eye on Coral Island, that'd be my top contender.
Then there's Wylde Flowers, Nintendo bringing Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons to PC, maybe My Time at Portia/Sandrock (which are more about crafting), Dinkum... and a dozen others.
So it's a pretty false claim to complain about 2D games just trying to copy SV and devs not making 3D games instead.

Also, the price is totally fine. Don't know why everybody feels entitled to receive like hundreds of hours of entertainment and replayability for like 5 bucks. Get real. As far as entertainment goes, you can pay this amount of money either for a single visit to the cinema, or for at least tens, if not hundred+ hours of fun on your PC.

[LyaranTirel]

Originally posted by Explicable:

Originally posted by MLink:

Another Stardew Valley dumb blind fan, Stardew alley itself is a pixel ark remake, but you're probably a zoomer who knows nothing about games so.

Lmao when did I say I was even a fan of Stardew valley? And I develop games for a living but ok kid. Its always easier to just dismiss someone and attack their character because they don't share your viewpoint, especially when you have no real counter argument. You come off as the zoomer, petty and childish.

OK. let's start with some arguments
1 - Stardew Valley itself was a copy-past of Harvest Moon franchise but with worst grafics. Your take of "remake 20000 versions of Stardew Valley" is literally wrong were it should be remakes of Harvest Moon since THEY there the actual OG.
2 - Each new game generally have something new to add. Some successful others not. As long as they try to make something new in a farming sim, people will look for it because people like the gender of the game.
3 - 3D games does NOT mean better games. Portia was horrible in comparison with the pixel and I'm not including how limiting the mod is for 3D. YES. Modding IS a factor for people to play farming sins because there's just so much you can ask of the developers, but mod players themselves seem to never tire to make more mods to help and expand a game. Just look at Aground and Stardew Valley.
4 - To call it 'way out of hand' clearly shows you don't actually know how much worst it can actually get about the pixel copy-paste. I'll just kindly remind you the flash games and RPG makers era that seem to have 20+ RPG games been made and released with literally the same grafics, the same story and just a random new pallet.

Hope to have helped you understand some more about games so you as a developer can make better ones in the future.

[LyaranTirel]

Originally posted by GrundleGrump:

Originally posted by вιηєy01:

this isn't a problem.
the price is.

What's wrong with the price? It took years to make, seems very well made and most of the Stardew Clones are dreadful. This appears to be one of the top options and with AAA games at $70/£70 when most of them are broken messes, why is $20/£20 unreasonable? It's a full game with hours of play and if it's your sort of game-- it's worth it. I'd have happily paid more for Stardew with the amount of fun I've gotten from it.

The price is actually a bit high for the grafics and game itself when comparing to others of the same gender and grafic. Like some other people said, Potion permit was half the price and I could also say the same to others like Aground. If you think it's worth and want to play i'd say go for it. Even better if you make a good review of how the game was for you help others decide if it's worth for them or not.

[GrundleGrump]

Originally posted by LyaranTirel:

Originally posted by GrundleGrump:

What's wrong with the price? It took years to make, seems very well made and most of the Stardew Clones are dreadful. This appears to be one of the top options and with AAA games at $70/£70 when most of them are broken messes, why is $20/£20 unreasonable? It's a full game with hours of play and if it's your sort of game-- it's worth it. I'd have happily paid more for Stardew with the amount of fun I've gotten from it.

The price is actually a bit high for the grafics and game itself when comparing to others of the same gender and grafic. Like some other people said, Potion permit was half the price and I could also say the same to others like Aground. If you think it's worth and want to play i'd say go for it. Even better if you make a good review of how the game was for you help others decide if it's worth for them or not.

No offense, but since when was price correlated to graphics. You're paying for the game as a whole, the experience and fun. You don't pay more just for better graphics

[LyaranTirel]

Originally posted by GrundleGrump:

Originally posted by LyaranTirel:

The price is actually a bit high for the grafics and game itself when comparing to others of the same gender and grafic. Like some other people said, Potion permit was half the price and I could also say the same to others like Aground. If you think it's worth and want to play i'd say go for it. Even better if you make a good review of how the game was for you help others decide if it's worth for them or not.

No offense, but since when was price correlated to graphics. You're paying for the game as a whole, the experience and fun. You don't pay more just for better graphics

Higher quality grafics indicate more expensive drives and programing. It's literally included on the pricetag. THEN you add the price of the plot and gameplay and etc.
That's why you will hardly find a 3D game cheap,

[TamanduaGirl]

Originally posted by LyaranTirel:

The price is actually a bit high for the grafics and game itself when comparing to others of the same gender and grafic. Like some other people said, Potion permit was half the price and I could also say the same to others like Aground. If you think it's worth and want to play i'd say go for it. Even better if you make a good review of how the game was for you help others decide if it's worth for them or not.

When you compare it to older games then yes but older games launched at lower prices to begin with. Stardew being $14.99 is cool but it's 7 years old and he's not upped the price since release. Compared to similar new games coral island, Sunhaven, the price is the same for this game. Inflation sucks but can't be avoided. Even some older games that still get support are raising prices. And steam raised their pricing recommendations for devs to use as their pricing guide for games.

https://kotaku.com/factorio-price-increase-steam-sale-squad-paid-emotes-1850012919

https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steams-new-pricing-recommendation-tool-suggests-price-hikes-in-all-countries-3336565

[lusciouslanguidity]

Originally posted by Explicable:

Originally posted by MLink:

Another Stardew Valley dumb blind fan, Stardew alley itself is a pixel ark remake, but you're probably a zoomer who knows nothing about games so.

Lmao when did I say I was even a fan of Stardew valley? And I develop games for a living but ok kid. Its always easier to just dismiss someone and attack their character because they don't share your viewpoint, especially when you have no real counter argument. You come off as the zoomer, petty and childish.

As a dev, you need to get a better survey of indie development life and also need to be more empathetic. You should be one of the last people to make this thread.