Whys everyone acting like sun havent didnt just come out

[JayXan]

I look at these reviews and everyones like, finally a competitor for stardew valley omg, its been years!! When literally sun haven came out like a month ago and it was better than stardew.

[EthanT]

Sun Haven better than Stardew? On what planet?

[TamanduaGirl]

I looked into it but I eventually took sunhaven off my wishlist. It's not really my style and there's a few issues with it still but mainly a style issue. It's very fanciful and coop centric. I like this is more down to earth and feels fine and not too grindy playing solo. Not that the other is bad but not my thing.

I'd say people are saying such things because it's hard to find a game that appeals to such a wide audience as stardew. So nothing they liked has been seen in years.

[ShadowX116]

Everyone has their own tastes, and I respect that. While I don't really care about games 'rivaling' each other, I just remember comparing Haven, Stardew & Pacha together, and deciding I still adored Stardew, but Pacha would be better at scratching the particular itch I have. Especially since I got to try the Pacha demo.
That said, I didn't really need another game in the same genre when I had those.

[Estefy]

Because Sun Haven was not what a lot of people expected, is still a little bit messy and above all, people like what they like. And they're entitled to not like Sun Haven, or to think that one doesn't rival SDV but this one does. Just different opinions and it's kinda silly to complain because "a lot of people" is ignoring a game you like...

For me, Sun Haven was a disappointment, even after trying to get into it for +100 hours. Not something I'd replay in the future (like I do with SDV) but just a few hours into this game and I'm loving it. I know for sure it'd be a replay in the future, so I'm going to say so in the reviews.

[TacticalBitz]

1. Sun Haven is great but better then Stardew is very opinion base and debatable.
2. Only saw one review with the competitor statement.
3. Who cares as long as we are getting good games.

[Steve]

Originally posted by JayXan:

I look at these reviews and everyones like, finally a competitor for stardew valley omg, its been years!! When literally sun haven came out like a month ago and it was better than stardew.

I bought Sun Haven but sadly had to refund as it ran terribly on my Steam Deck and the font was too small to easily read.

Roots of Pacha runs great on the Deck and I can read the text, win win.

[SQQisMommy]

Sun haven came out like two years ago bro. You don't get to say a game just "came out" when they finally release the final product when they cash grabbed early release for two years.
No one looks at early release like early release, especially with these kinds of games. They look at them like companies that ran out of money to make their game so they are releasing it in a horrible """alpha""" state at half price. The people that genuinely care about the games will buy it, get disillusioned and move on. VERY FEW people come back for the full release.
Roots of Pacha is releasing as a complete game, that's why the price is "so high" compared to early release games.

[Hollianne1979]

Outside of farming some crops and interacting with some villagers - I don't believe this game is really that similar to Stardew Valley (nor Sun Haven). Roots of Pacha feels more like a town builder sim smashed together with a 3rd person collect-athon. I don't know why so many people compare every game that is a life/economic sim to SDV... that game was great for a LOT of reasons (subjective personal opinion here but as far as engaging content, it blew Sun Haven away).

To try and answer your question.......Too many games in this "niche" category have ridden SDV's coattails coming out in EA and never getting finished. It has created a weird dynamic and a huge loss of trust between game devs and consumers. Sun Haven hit its peak before it was done. The devs took too long to implement controller support which had a lot of people just walk away and get distracted by other things... By the time it was "released" it had lost a lot of its momentum. Maybe it will make a come back if it goes to consoles... but last I checked, they were still having difficulty with porting pc controls to a gamepad (which got them a bit of rep for not knowing what they were doing)... they could have have just copied 1996's original Harvest Moon's control scheme - the one that is still primarily used today - but they didn't - and are still struggling with it. Lastly, consumers are incredibly fickle - when I see anything saying "this is the new Stardew Valley!" I ignore it. If a game looks like something you might like, play it, and enjoy yourself.... =)

[shinylions]

I didnt like SV. I loved friends of mineral town and other story of seasons. SV was just a rip of that.
Sun haven is very diffrent. Not comparable. Also extreem buggy and not polished.
This game is diffrent from both of them. I really love it, only the time runs too fast. So i quited.

[lydocia]

Sun Haven was a good game on paper, but it didn't "have" me so I stopped playing after a little while. Pacha has me captivated and is a new hyperfixation / obsession.

I don't feel Sun Haven is a good comparison. It's not a Stardew Valley-ish game in my opinion; It has similar graphics, it has farming, and I feel like the comparison ends there.

For reference, 600+ hours in Stardew, 19 hours in Sun Haven, 11 hours in Pacha so far.

[Mannu]

Stardew valley is comfort game. It is loved and for good reasons. Played some 800+ hours and still time to time start again and play happily.

Roots of Pacha hits same notes, feels goods and just hits the right notes. Also it happens to be in one of my fixations time periods, so it is even better.

Sun Haven was on list for a while, but after testing it and seeing how it works.. Just. Not. Refunded it, since it just didn't feel right.

People have different likes. But saying Sun Haven is competitor for Stardew valley? Only in really small community.

[radicalbabe]

ok this is my opinion i love stardew vally for meny reasons its combats a challange but not grindy sun haven has been out for couple years like it for its adventures the banter lines the npcs have also like its farming building its puzzle side can be challanging and keeps me interested pacha has just came out full release more to come i love it no combat and nice pass time game for me the 3 games r different in there own ways not comparable tbh its like compairing a orange to a apple just cause the similar shape dont mean there related just my veiw

[Doctrine Dark]

Stardew Valley is held to such high regard simply because it introduced allot of western people to farming sims. And if stardew Valley didn't have the mod support it has the hype would have died out ages ago. People have been playing top tier farming sims since Story or Seasons and Rune Factory but stardew valley was built for a more western audience.

[Doctrine Dark]

Originally posted by radicalbabe:

ok this is my opinion i love stardew vally for meny reasons its combats a challange but not grindy sun haven has been out for couple years like it for its adventures the banter lines the npcs have also like its farming building its puzzle side can be challanging and keeps me interested pacha has just came out full release more to come i love it no combat and nice pass time game for me the 3 games r different in there own ways not comparable tbh its like compairing a orange to a apple just cause the similar shape dont mean there related just my veiw

People will compare any life sim to stardew valley even if the base premise is not the same. I've seen people comparing my time in portia and Harvestella to stardew valley and they aren't even remotely similar.

[CoffeePot?]

Sunhaven failed to pull me in.