Prehistoric Kingdom vs JWE2

[Nats]

Which one will be the better game?

[Vaporwave Spirit]

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Heard and seen some questionable things about the PK developers myself. Seen them make fun of my friend's dinosaur models in a discord server several years ago, despite him working hard on them, among other drama too personal for me to go into detail here.

Then why bring it up in the first place? I don't see how this is relevant to the quality of a product. How does this comment make it better or worse from JWE? I don't see this as fanboyism (for JWE) on your part but I do see it as mudslinging out of lingering resentment.

I brought it up cause it's about PK, which is related to the subject of the thread. Just my personal experience with them

[TyranntX]

Wait, is Dondi on the dev team? The same guy known for being a total ass hat on The Isle's Dev team? Is He the one on PK's team not being all too friendly?

[Nederbeest]

I'm not familiar with Dondi so I can't confirm he's on the team (I never played The Isle), but then again I only know three or four names of the PK dev team.

[c_Alien]

After finally playing PK for a while, I can say it is as suspected. Like PZ with dinos.
Can't say it is better or worse than JWE 2, just entirely different. Uncomparably different.
PK is all about design, JWE is all about action. Like two different genres.

[Vaporwave Spirit]

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Wait, is Dondi on the dev team? The same guy known for being a total ass hat on The Isle's Dev team? Is He the one on PK's team not being all too friendly?

Nah he's not on their dev team. He used to be on primal carnage dev team long ago iirc. I agree with you though on him being an ass. He acts like a total redditor

[TyranntX]

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After finally playing PK for a while, I can say it is as suspected. Like PZ with dinos.
Can't say it is better or worse than JWE 2, just entirely different. Uncomparably different.
PK is all about design, JWE is all about action. Like two different genres.

From what i can see. if you want to have elaborate buildings and do little with Dinosaur Management, then get PK. If you want In-depth and immersive dinosaurs but don't care for Architecture, then get JWE2. Although PK is only in EA at the moment I feel this is a fair assessment.

[SBA77]

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Heard and seen some questionable things about the PK developers myself. Seen them make fun of my friend's dinosaur models in a discord server several years ago, despite him working hard on them, among other drama too personal for me to go into detail here. Seems like a lot of videogame developers of early access dinosaur games seem to act less than professional, sometimes downright toxic, compared to games outside of that genre, its a major red flag when one of them act like that. Anyone else heard of something similar happening?

Well, its an indie dev team, so you cannot tell what happens. Some are determined, others are half criminal, who knows.
But I wouldn't judge a game by how friendly the devs are towards their players, especially if it is just about another discord user feeling victimized.
And I think thats about what SBA77 tried to tell you.

Actually it's closer to Nederbeest's statement:

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Then why bring it up in the first place? I don't see how this is relevant to the quality of a product. How does this comment make it better or worse from JWE? I don't see this as fanboyism (for JWE) on your part but I do see it as mudslinging out of lingering resentment.

Those stories about the PK devs were irrelevant to the game itself and came off as an attempt to smear the game.

[Vaporwave Spirit]

Those stories about the PK devs were irrelevant to the game itself and came off as an attempt to smear the game.

I am telling my personal experience as a warning to be cautious around early access games because most of the time, developers of EA games tend to have less experience(animalia, mesozoica, H1Z1, ESPECIALLY Day of Dragons to name a few) than those of bigger teams such as Frontier. I am not going to argue with you over it because its still technically PK related since the devs are the ones who made the game, they control the quality of the game because they are the creators. Do not gatekeep topics just because you read something you do not like

[SBA77]

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Those stories about the PK devs were irrelevant to the game itself and came off as an attempt to smear the game.

I am telling my personal experience as a warning to be cautious around early access games because most of the time, developers of EA games tend to have less experience(animalia, mesozoica, H1Z1, ESPECIALLY Day of Dragons to name a few) than those of bigger teams such as Frontier. I am not going to argue with you over it because its still technically PK related since the devs are the ones who made the game, they control the quality of the game because they are the creators. Do not gatekeep topics just because you read something you do not like

I still fail to see how PK's devs being a jerk to somebody or having an arrogant view of dinosaurs' appearance makes it a bad game.

If you actually take a look at the game you'll find its possible problems go far beyond simply what the dinosaurs look like.

[Vaporwave Spirit]

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I am telling my personal experience as a warning to be cautious around early access games because most of the time, developers of EA games tend to have less experience(animalia, mesozoica, H1Z1, ESPECIALLY Day of Dragons to name a few) than those of bigger teams such as Frontier. I am not going to argue with you over it because its still technically PK related since the devs are the ones who made the game, they control the quality of the game because they are the creators. Do not gatekeep topics just because you read something you do not like

I still fail to see how PK's devs being a jerk to somebody or having an arrogant view of dinosaurs' appearance makes it a bad game.

If you actually take a look at the game you'll find its possible problems go far beyond simply what the dinosaurs look like.

I have taken a look at the game. Animations and dinosaur interaction in jurassic world evolution 2 are way better. Regardless the topic doesn't have to be extremely strict and obsessively specific, PK is part of the subject, so im talking about its developers, which is not a big deal. however by the look of your avatar you probably dont have much experience in steam forums so I dont blame you. Now dont derail the entire thread over what counts as being on or off topic

[Vaporwave Spirit]

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After finally playing PK for a while, I can say it is as suspected. Like PZ with dinos.
Can't say it is better or worse than JWE 2, just entirely different. Uncomparably different.
PK is all about design, JWE is all about action. Like two different genres.

From what i can see. if you want to have elaborate buildings and do little with Dinosaur Management, then get PK. If you want In-depth and immersive dinosaurs but don't care for Architecture, then get JWE2. Although PK is only in EA at the moment I feel this is a fair assessment.

is the interface in pk better than PZ? i felt that the interface was too complicated for me in the latter game. Made it hard for me to know where to begin when making a zoo in sandbox from scratch. fence building and power systems where a pain in the butt for me

[SheldonPG]

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From what I have seen up to now, PK focuses mainly on park design while the dinos seem to be more like supporting actors. At the moment at least.
JWE 2 is quite the opposite. It focuses on dino behavior and how to keep them satisfied and locked up, while park management and design falls a bit short.

Which one is better? At the moment I would clearly say JWE 2 is superior (even one of the PK devs admitted this)
To really compare them we should wait until pk fully releases in a few years.

even tho i enjoy planet zoo, i would prefer a system like JWE for it so yeah i still stick to JWE2.

[c_Alien]

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From what I have seen up to now, PK focuses mainly on park design while the dinos seem to be more like supporting actors. At the moment at least.
JWE 2 is quite the opposite. It focuses on dino behavior and how to keep them satisfied and locked up, while park management and design falls a bit short.

Which one is better? At the moment I would clearly say JWE 2 is superior (even one of the PK devs admitted this)
To really compare them we should wait until pk fully releases in a few years.

even tho i enjoy planet zoo, i would prefer a system like JWE for it so yeah i still stick to JWE2.

I am afraid to say that I refunded PK.
It is not the many shortcomings due to ea, that made me do this. I was aware of that and know the devs are gonna add the most features somewhere in the future.
No, it was more like i felt that I would not spent much time with the game. The dinosaurs and prehistoric mammals were nice, but the rest was too much like PZ. Too much of the things I do not like in a builder.
I mean, if I really want to play like that, I could play Planet Zoo (which I already own). If I am sick of Planet Zoo, but still feel like I have to decorate some more, I could still play Planet Coaster (which I own as well). No need for a third game like that. Not at all.
I mean, I still do not think it is a bad game, by all means. It is just not for me.
So I am going to stick with JWE as well.
I realized that it is not the dinos, that I like about this game, even though they are a good point.
It is the builder with focus on action aspect and the fact that this game knows how to keep you busy all the time. And, yeah, I still think that makes the JWEs unique. Seriously, if you know any other builders like that (possibly even with car control and gun firering or some action stuff like that), then let me know, I will be more than happy to try them out
Until then I will keep playing JWE 2.

[c_Alien]

The PK forum is full of trolls btw.

[SBA77]

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The PK forum is full of trolls btw.

Tends to happen when you have a new game that's similar to and competing with an older, more established, mainstream one.


And then there's the case when games that are similar to a mainstream game attract the latter's rather toxic haters.