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Morphing Jar 15 aout 2023 à 15h01
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This developer supports Jordan Peterson
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Yeah, those are good points. Also, after thinking about it for the past few days, I think I'll be getting the game anyways.

I also didn't really have an agenda for this post beyond "caveat emptor".
Who? Also don't care - they make incredible games. Thanks k bye.
I'll buy two copies now! Great news!!!
Looks like it was a joke reference in The Messenger that later got removed. Like how Paradox makes a ton of 80's references in their games, just less tasteful. Also, this was long ago before Peterson started going insane over how much he want's to bang Elliot Page
https://twitter.com/messengergame/status/1031842450413735936
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bitsu 17 aout 2023 à 16h24 
clean your bloody room bucko
I was on the fence but now I'm pre-ordering for sure.
Well that settles it, day 1 purchase for me.
That’s great to hear. Now I’m even more excited to support the based dev. Thanks for the good news, OP.
It would be interesting to see the devs confirm or deny this here.
That's...so amazing lol, wow. Refreshing.
597 18 aout 2023 à 7h46 
Cosgar a écrit :
Looks like it was a joke reference in The Messenger that later got removed.

I only just discovered Messenger days ago after trying this SoS demo. Last night I got a hidden bit of missable dialogue where the Shopkeeper mentions Jordan by first name and gives a super condensed summary of some of Peterson's popular self help advice.

So if that's still in there, maybe there was yet another reference that did get removed. I'm talking about the one about the cabinet at the last shop entrance in Glacial Peak just before the Tower.

Weltall8000 a écrit :
It would be interesting to see the devs confirm or deny this here.

No need. He's still named in the current version of Messenger.
Well, what I meant was to, "confirm or deny, 'This developer supports Jordan Peterson'."

Like, is the screenshot of the dm legit? Was Jordan the Wise appreciation or a dig at Jordan Peterson? (I didn't play The Messenger and all I know about this subject is this and about 20 minutes of subsequent internet searching.)

Guess I'd like to know what their actual stance is on the matter.
597 19 aout 2023 à 0h34 
Well, before he became a popular self-help genre household name, Peterson's first book was called Maps of Meaning and was about, among other things, ancient traditional stories, philosophical, religious and mythical, passing on the wisdom for fighting the evil within and outside you and living a good life - from generation to generation. He keeps using the map metaphor in his lectures and his new work for wider audiences.

In Messenger, HEAVY SPOILERS JUST GO PLAY MESSENGER IT'S AMAZING SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS the scroll the ninja is chosen to deliver has has been passed down through generations for ages and is literally a map. Its next destination is 500 years in the future when a demon army is going to attack again.

There's these wise (and wise-cracking) blue robed figures in a metaphysical world you access through save points, who guide you and tell you old stories in optional dialogue. You discuss their meaning in a comical way with them.

One of the big reveals and heartfelt moments of the game is you reaching the beginning point of the game 500 years later and passing on the map scroll to the next messenger. You realize the blue robed guys are actually those among previous messengers who haven't failed their quest to deliver the map to the next one. You take up the blue robe yourself and take your place inside the save point to aid the next messenger.


Yeah, The Messenger is a parody game. The characters take digs at 2d platforming mechanics and various common game tropes the game itself uses. They're all cute homages, not hateful criticism.

Its core plot and the mini stories the blue robed guys tell you are all comedy, so you could say it's a dig at Peterson and philosophers of the Traditionalist school or a dig at the idea of "wisdom" of passing on old stories. But not all digs are disavowal. And some of the best and funniest ones are praise.
Morphing Jar a écrit :
This developer supports Jordan Peterson
So, what? Keep your old Twitter mentality out of here. Just constantly trying to create division and strife.

You're not the good person you think you are.
Joy 19 aout 2023 à 12h37 
who is this sexy angry old man?
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