Wheels is absurd.

[Thor's Throbbing Hammer]

So if your opponent's combination includes a priest I guess I should just quit out to the main menu, huh?

Oh wait, maybe you can tell me exactly how you programmed it so the Wheels champion in Mirth is an assassin and a priest and my crappy wheel just gives me walls over and over and over and over and over. I DIDN"T EVEN GET TO ATTACK ONCE.

Who programmed this crap at your company? Please let that sadist know I despise them.

[Heppu]

Just keep rolling and eventually you'll get good rolls, or if you haven't got better wheel try to get those by playing other wheels opponents.

[Zelxios]

i combo'd mage archer the whole way until i got assassin and played mage assassin. my best advice is to prioritize mage since it attack twice hitting no matter what if there are walls and archer a good second for when the walls are low and knowing when to put up walls, waiting until the opponent is just about unleash an attack

[lao.wiltmarlone]

Put this champion last; priest/assassin is a broken combo. Don't attempt this early on. I won mainly by luck against it with archer/mage combo. Tried doing a clone match later on and it became laughably easy. There's a chance you're playing the mini-game wrong too. Here's a few tips that could help.

1) Building walls is the least priority since they're pretty useless. Unless your opponent is an archer, don't build it higher than 3 stacks. If your opponent is an assassin, don't bother building it. Any other class and 1 stack will do.

2) After your first roll, focus on locking in doubles and blue tiles. If you have a double, focus on rolling for that shape.

3) After your second roll, start committing to a shape that has the chance to gain energy. If you have a single double, lock in every same shape as that double until you have enough energy to allow your piece to move. If you have a double of each shape, go for the one that has is present in most of your wheels (if you have a double square, a double diamond, and two single squares, you're better off unlocking the double diamond and locking in both single squares). Remember that it is more important for any piece to move than to have a specific piece move, as this keeps up the pressure on your opponent.

4) Always note how much energy and experience your pieces have. Don't lock in excessive energy or experience, since they do not carry over. If a piece needs one energy to move, avoid rolling higher than a total of 3. If a piece has five experience on it, avoid rolling for more than 1 blue tile.

Hope this somehow helps you.

[[JRE] Joe Rogan]

I was gonna rate the game positively but this one part of the game had changed my mind. It's like excusing Hitler cuz outside of what he did he was chill.

That was just some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ design and its really absurd how this was put into a game that touts its "accessibility". There is literally no counterplay to that combo outside of just RNG, I didn't even understand why my pieces weren't attacking cuz I had never seen the Assassin before so had no clue what he did or Priest.

I find it hard if not impossible to believe that they didn't understand how absurd this combo was tbh and beating it without the opponents pieces is literally just RNG, maybe they got good rolls testing it or something or maybe they expect you to have Assassin already, who knows.

I enjoyed the Wheels aspect of this game honestly the most cuz its just a chill experience and then I raged at Sea of Stars last night cuz of this crap. Like I'm just done giving games that make me rage positive reviews, none of them deserve it and developers who make things like that and put them into games that tout accessibility options except when it comes to certain parts of the game like minigames which they balance to be absurdly hard.

You really can't make this stuff up...

[597]

One makes oneself rage. Nobody else is doing it *to* you.

[Melodia]

Godwin in this thread? Go figure.

[gnomeu]

Funny enough i love the minigame and even tried to search it online to play with other people, find it really interisting and original

[[JRE] Joe Rogan]

Originally posted by 597:

One makes oneself rage. Nobody else is doing it *to* you.

Damn bro that's deep, you could've just told me I shouldn't be raging at a game or something but no you just had to go and hit me with I am 14 and this is deep philosophy lesson. Thanks for that.

[nottoph]

Originally posted by NUMBERS 19 Red Heffer:

There is literally no counterplay to that combo outside of just RNG, I didn't even understand why my pieces weren't attacking cuz I had never seen the Assassin before so had no clue what he did or Priest.

the game tells you what all the pieces do in the wheels instructions section

this is bait

[AsianGirlLover]

Wheels is fun and only mildly infuriating until you start to understand it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[[JRE] Joe Rogan]

Originally posted by nottoph:

Originally posted by NUMBERS 19 Red Heffer:

There is literally no counterplay to that combo outside of just RNG, I didn't even understand why my pieces weren't attacking cuz I had never seen the Assassin before so had no clue what he did or Priest.

the game tells you what all the pieces do in the wheels instructions section

this is bait

The instructions that have a section for each piece? Yea I skimmed through it but the part about Assassin I didn't read that until after I started dealing with Assassin. (Shocker!)

Why would that be bait? What kind of socially isolated person would say that is bait? I never faced that piece why would I read about it before hand? Its just a thing and its not even a complaint, I was describing my experience when first facing it.

[Ruuubick]

I'm just slightly annoyed by how much the game in champion's mode makes it obvious that the opponent has a programmed advantage. That doesn't make it fun to lose 15 times in a row because the opponent can roll tiles with 3 energy on it but you can only have 2 max. Or when you're starting to do well, the opponent will start to automatically catch up and you'll just get mostly wall tiles.

I don't know, I guess there's not much strategy if you're just waiting to get lucky at every turn rather than planning anything...

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Lieutenant Moon:

you are guaranteed to lose most of the time.

How odd that I won most of the time once I understood it.

[mad_cat2005]

Wheels is an easy game, yes the opponent has an advantage but it is also a low programmed feature... It is also NOT required to beat the game. I have watched those that aren't great at games, figure out how wheels work and do well IN champion. Want another broken combo, try Engineer and Priest. It's a long game combo, but stupidly powerful.