Wheels is not fun.

[Dimforest]

It's the only part of this otherwise fantastic game that sucks. Without spoiling anything, if you are planning on doing any sort of completionist-type playthrough, you're stuck playing Wheels. if you want to do end-game content, you're stuck with Wheels.

The absolute RNG factor and frustrating imbalance just make the game a pain to play. It's not fun, it's not strategic, and it's not anywhere near the level of polish the rest of the game has. I wish it were 100% optional and didn't have achievements or end-game content tied to it.

[NeoRizer]

There's a CE table that allows you to auto win the game after your first turn... Spin the slots, lock all 5 columns, spin again... turn plays out... you win. I haven't had to deal with it since like the 2nd table I encountered... every time I find a table I just play out 1 turn and I get my stupid prize.

I agree with your frustration, the game makes very little sense to me, it just seems insanely inconsistent with how the rules are played out and it's literally just a time sink. I work 40 hours a week and when I have to spend over 40 minutes trying to win a board game inside of a video game for some stupid banana sticker after it's all over, it's not even worth my time or effort.

[HolidayFromReal]

Full completion in terms of achievements yes.

In order so see the true ending - no.

[Dimforest]

Originally posted by HolidayFromReal:

Full completion in terms of achievements yes.

In order so see the true ending - no.

I never mentioned it being a requirement for the true ending. I said "end game content" because it is, in fact, a requirement for some end game content.

[This PC]

I enjoy wheels myself.

[DarkkOne]

I'm curious. Based on my playing ,I feel like squares showed up more often than diamonds, so I'm wondering if the wheels (particularly the table wheels) favor one or the other. Like, if part of the strategy is which location you put which figure. Or, at the very least, it's possible that not all four of the table wheels are identical, and so if some have higher odds for any given symbol, knowing which ones have better odds to lock vs respin helps.

I know I didn't particularly find wheels that hard, just definitely play through them in order. Having the upgrades as you go makes a difference. Also, you can do a lot by just spamming mage like crazy early on, the guaranteed damage is a big deal, and if their wall isn't up, it's stupidly high damage.

[597]

I didn't get into the meta of the minigame yet, but it was great fun in the gambling sense just brute forcing everything with a solo Mage. Didn't take many attempts, and only against the Watchmaker did I have to get an engineer to knock down walls occasionally to speed things up.

[Army of Optimists]

Originally posted by Dimforest:

Originally posted by HolidayFromReal:

Full completion in terms of achievements yes.

In order so see the true ending - no.

I never mentioned it being a requirement for the true ending. I said "end game content" because it is, in fact, a requirement for some end game content.

Er, the only thing playing Wheels does is unlock more Wheels content. None of the rest of the game is gated behind it.

[HolidayFromReal]

After beating the Watchmaker you get one (out of four) Flimsy Hammer which is needed for a... special location. So technically yes there is some content gated behind it. I think that's what Dimforest is talking about.

Spoiler warning:
https://primagames.com/tips/how-to-use-the-flimsy-hammers-in-sea-of-stars#2

[Army of Optimists]

I guess, but it's a minor easter egg. It's not like an ultimate weapon or crucial story content requires it.

[HolidayFromReal]

Originally posted by Army of Optimists:

I guess, but it's a minor easter egg. It's not like an ultimate weapon or crucial story content requires it.

I agree. Hiding the True Ending behind 60 rainbow chests is the way bigger crime :D