On what planet is this game similar to Chrono Trigger

[Xenu]

Steam reviews are high
Game looks fun but that's just a retro SNES style rpg.
There's a million of em on Steam.
I don't see anything that vibes like CT from the footage.

[GlockLesnar]

you'll see much more throughlines in the late game

Originally posted by Tsurayu:

I'm only a couple hours in, but so far I'm a bit puzzled by that comparison as well. Super Mario RPG, maybe, it wasn't the first, but it and it's fellow Paper Mario games popularized timed actions the most.

Chrono Trigger I'm not really understanding so far. The world map maybe? The style and overly small, pixel characters did immediately make me feel like I was traveling on a world map of similar style, but other than that I'm a bit confused.

If anything I'm feeling more like the art style is making me think of an old Mana game or something from the Magical Vacation series. Some serious Brownie Brown vibes before they started working almost exclusively with Nintendo and lost any of their personal style.

you'll see much more throughlines in the late game

[Supernatural Cookie]

While I don't think its 1:1, there are a LOT of little nods to CT, more so than most other games. For instance, many enemy attacks are reminiscent of attacks you'd see in CT. Bubble Drop and Slurp Kiss are literally moves that Frog does in CT. The way the enemies act in particular is very much stuff you'd see in CT as well. Enemies don't just wander aimlessly, they can be sometimes seen doing things such as dancing, fighting each other, or other small nods that are things you'd see in CT. There are a few attacks you can do which are very similar to CT ones as well, such as X-Strike.

[Fate]

Originally posted by Xenu:

Steam reviews are high
Game looks fun but that's just a retro SNES style rpg.
There's a million of em on Steam.
I don't see anything that vibes like CT from the footage.

It has quite a few CT references

It's more the combat with enemies being visible before you fight them sorta thing, and
skills need enemies to be physically close together etc like you did in CT.

Also the overworld is very CT inspired. There are some places towards the end of the game that are certainly influenced by CT.

[aSoulBelow]

its close to Chrono Trigger, however the mobs dont move around on the field during combat, which CT still has above every turned-based retro rpg even to this day.

[20000Aggro]

I've never played Chrono Trigger so I have no idea what the game is like to understand all of these references to it. I thought the game was like older Zelda games with the itemization, monsters appearing visibly before you enter a fight, food you can cook and eat, and maybe less with combat, but the limited attacks and the combat menu do remind me of Pokemon or Digimon.
I'm not really a fan of JRPGs in general so it's not often I play games like Chrono Trigger.

I love how positive the characters are, compared to games like Disco Elysium, which can be very mentally draining with how pretentious and negative they can be. It's not my idea of a good time to play xenophobic hateful ideaologies just to progress a story. Dying to a door is hilarious but ultimately frustrating. The game plays like the movie Memento with how it thinks good art means being experimentally artistic to the point of being annoying, like with his memory issues as well as the traits/talents being based around addictions and mental illness, and some of the traits having voices that talk in ways that make zero sense contextually. Personal preference, I don't like the color palette or art style. You don't need to throw an entire essay at people just to be smartly written or designed. Portal and The Stanley Parable are good examples.

The developers said the game took a lot of elements from older games but personally I found the later mechanics to be fun. I'm not a pro but it was fairly easy for a game. Some attack animations were hard to read.

[Swaggaccino]

lol this is exactly what I thought. Unless you got time traveling, this is nothing like Chrono Trigger. It's basically like all the other SNES RPGs games. Chrono Trigger wasn't the only one.

[Dogi ( ﾟ ヮﾟ)]

As far as game design elements go, it's really just the small aoes on some skills, not transitioning to a battle screen and kinda the world map. There are several very late game references that I honestly think could have been done much better but none of the reviews and stuff would be talking about those.
The common "Wow! it's like chrono trigger!" from randoms is mostly coming from people who probably never played chrono trigger in the first place. So at best you have somewhat realistic proportioned characters in a snes adjacent graphical style for which CT is the standout game with that kind of look that most people are casually aware of.

[kerry.yakish]

I'm really surprised by the defenses of this game. A lot of people are trying to recast old SNES RPGs as linear hellscapes that they just weren't and even trying to recast Chrono Trigger as some sort of failure or incredibly dated at best. I honestly don't know whether to believe someone who says they like this better than Chrono Trigger. It honestly feels more like gaslighting than a genuine difference in opinion.

I'm almost 6 hours into this game and I honestly don't feel like I've made a single decision about literally anything. I've never felt more on rails in an RPG before. There hasn't been a single fork in the road and I still just have three characters with two abilities each.

Even at the beginning of Chrono Trigger you have the chance to do some minor exploring. By the 6 hour mark you've had the chance to branch off and see the sewers in 2300 AD and sequence break and explore 65 million BC a bit. You've probably seen at least five characters at that point each with a unique set of way more than two abilities.

Final Fantasy V is an even older game and you're introduced to the job system less than two hours in. Even the first of three worlds has optional locations to explore and sidequests.

Before I put more time into this game I want to know the gameplay evolves at some point, but there are people saying it just doesn't.

[Weltall8000]

More that CT is overrated as all hell. It was a great game, but it isn't the end all, be all JRPG of all time.

Outside of what you did at the Millennial Fair to later be referenced for the trial, which, ultimately, doesn't have any real impact on the plot outcome anyway, you didn't make any choices in CT at 6 hours either.

FFV, which is not CT, had a lot of customization in its Job system. SoS doesn't have that level of customization. Neither does CT.

SoS adds more playable characters and they have abilities and combos to add. Locks get bigger/more complex. But, if you don't like it at 6 hours in, you probably won't like it at 30.

[Blood]

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

I'm really surprised by the defenses of this game. A lot of people are trying to recast old SNES RPGs as linear hellscapes that they just weren't and even trying to recast Chrono Trigger as some sort of failure or incredibly dated at best. I honestly don't know whether to believe someone who says they like this better than Chrono Trigger. It honestly feels more like gaslighting than a genuine difference in opinion.

I'm almost 6 hours into this game and I honestly don't feel like I've made a single decision about literally anything. I've never felt more on rails in an RPG before. There hasn't been a single fork in the road and I still just have three characters with two abilities each.

Even at the beginning of Chrono Trigger you have the chance to do some minor exploring. By the 6 hour mark you've had the chance to branch off and see the sewers in 2300 AD and sequence break and explore 65 million BC a bit. You've probably seen at least five characters at that point each with a unique set of way more than two abilities.

Final Fantasy V is an even older game and you're introduced to the job system less than two hours in. Even the first of three worlds has optional locations to explore and sidequests.

Before I put more time into this game I want to know the gameplay evolves at some point, but there are people saying it just doesn't.

Chrono Trigger is better IMO but if you can't see any similarities you haven't played either game.

[kerry.yakish]

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

More that CT is overrated as all hell. It was a great game, but it isn't the end all, be all JRPG of all time.

And SoS isn't a great game. I have no problem with the idea that CT is overrated in and of itself. It's when it's directly compared to another game that I might take issue with what you're saying.

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

Outside of what you did at the Millennial Fair to later be referenced for the trial, which, ultimately, doesn't have any real impact on the plot outcome anyway, you didn't make any choices in CT at 6 hours either.

I said nothing about these decisions impacting the plot. We're talking about a game here, not a book or movie. There's more to the player's experience than the plot.

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

FFV, which is not CT, had a lot of customization in its Job system. SoS doesn't have that level of customization. Neither does CT.

CT still has more than SoS and the existence of any decades old game with more to offer than SoS begs the question as to why I would play SoS. I'm just not sure what this game is supposed to offer that wasn't done better in dozens of much older games.

There's also the issue of linearity that a lot of people are dismissing as typical JRPGs. The only two RPGs I can think of that were anywhere near this linear are Mario RPG and Legend of Dragoon. I still enjoy Mario RPG, but I find LoD somewhat tedious. I've only seen people play FF10 and FF13 on YouTube. I honestly don't think I've ever played a game where my experience felt as deterministic as SoS.

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

SoS adds more playable characters and they have abilities and combos to add. Locks get bigger/more complex. But, if you don't like it at 6 hours in, you probably won't like it at 30.

At 6 hours in I have 3 characters with 2 abilities each. CT has a total of 7 characters with 8 abilities. If I hear the number of characters and abilities approaches CT levels, I might consider picking this game up again.

[Weltall8000]

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

And SoS isn't a great game. I have no problem with the idea that CT is overrated in and of itself. It's when it's directly compared to another game that I might take issue with what you're saying.

It is. For multiple reasons already given ad nauseam. You're, what, six hours in? You don't even know the story, characters, or how the later game is with the full party.

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

I said nothing about these decisions impacting the plot. We're talking about a game here, not a book or movie. There's more to the player's experience than the plot.

Lol okay, the bar really is on the floor, "decision about literally anything." In that case, yeah, SoS has player decisions about things too. On top of, you never played later on with the multiple optional side quests.

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

CT still has more [customization] than SoS...

Where?

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

and the existence of any decades old game with more to offer than SoS begs the question as to why I would play SoS. I'm just not sure what this game is supposed to offer that wasn't done better in dozens of much older games.

Well, this game is better than Chrono Trigger, so, I don't follow.

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

There's also the issue of linearity that a lot of people are dismissing as typical JRPGs. The only two RPGs I can think of that were anywhere near this linear are Mario RPG and Legend of Dragoon. I still enjoy Mario RPG, but I find LoD somewhat tedious. I've only seen people play FF10 and FF13 on YouTube. I honestly don't think I've ever played a game where my experience felt as deterministic as SoS.

Didn't you just try to pushback on my point about CT not having much actual choice impacting the plot, particularly early on, by saying that it doesn't need to? And argue that "it isn't a book or movie?"

Furthermore, it sounds like you have not played many JRPGs. You have no idea how linear many of them are.

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

At 6 hours in I have 3 characters with 2 abilities each. CT has a total of 7 characters with 8 abilities. If I hear the number of characters and abilities approaches CT levels, I might consider picking this game up again.

So, you're comparing end game CT to not even through the first act of SoS. Cool.

Anyway, your loss.

[Armitage]

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

More that CT is overrated as all hell. It was a great game, but it isn't the end all, be all JRPG of all time.

And SoS isn't a great game. I have no problem with the idea that CT is overrated in and of itself. It's when it's directly compared to another game that I might take issue with what you're saying.

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

Outside of what you did at the Millennial Fair to later be referenced for the trial, which, ultimately, doesn't have any real impact on the plot outcome anyway, you didn't make any choices in CT at 6 hours either.

I said nothing about these decisions impacting the plot. We're talking about a game here, not a book or movie. There's more to the player's experience than the plot.

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

FFV, which is not CT, had a lot of customization in its Job system. SoS doesn't have that level of customization. Neither does CT.

CT still has more than SoS and the existence of any decades old game with more to offer than SoS begs the question as to why I would play SoS. I'm just not sure what this game is supposed to offer that wasn't done better in dozens of much older games.

There's also the issue of linearity that a lot of people are dismissing as typical JRPGs. The only two RPGs I can think of that were anywhere near this linear are Mario RPG and Legend of Dragoon. I still enjoy Mario RPG, but I find LoD somewhat tedious. I've only seen people play FF10 and FF13 on YouTube. I honestly don't think I've ever played a game where my experience felt as deterministic as SoS.

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

SoS adds more playable characters and they have abilities and combos to add. Locks get bigger/more complex. But, if you don't like it at 6 hours in, you probably won't like it at 30.

At 6 hours in I have 3 characters with 2 abilities each. CT has a total of 7 characters with 8 abilities. If I hear the number of characters and abilities approaches CT levels, I might consider picking this game up again.

Don't waste your time with Weltall. He/she can't even comprehend the benefits for a company and why they would use localization teams when releasesing in other languages.

Chrono Trigger maybe overrated. SOS is a barely average polished turd whose marketing team paid off shills to call it a masterpiece.

[Weltall8000]

Originally posted by Armitage:

Originally posted by kerry.yakish:

And SoS isn't a great game. I have no problem with the idea that CT is overrated in and of itself. It's when it's directly compared to another game that I might take issue with what you're saying.I said nothing about these decisions impacting the plot. We're talking about a game here, not a book or movie. There's more to the player's experience than the plot.CT still has more than SoS and the existence of any decades old game with more to offer than SoS begs the question as to why I would play SoS. I'm just not sure what this game is supposed to offer that wasn't done better in dozens of much older games.

There's also the issue of linearity that a lot of people are dismissing as typical JRPGs. The only two RPGs I can think of that were anywhere near this linear are Mario RPG and Legend of Dragoon. I still enjoy Mario RPG, but I find LoD somewhat tedious. I've only seen people play FF10 and FF13 on YouTube. I honestly don't think I've ever played a game where my experience felt as deterministic as SoS.

At 6 hours in I have 3 characters with 2 abilities each. CT has a total of 7 characters with 8 abilities. If I hear the number of characters and abilities approaches CT levels, I might consider picking this game up again.

Don't waste your time with Weltall. He/she can't even comprehend the benefits for a company and why they would use localization teams when releasesing in other languages.

Chrono Trigger maybe overrated. SOS is a barely average polished turd whose marketing team paid off shills to call it a masterpiece.

It also come as a massive shock that negative reviews are blasting this game for its writing and bland characters. But Garl is the best.

You're just a hater that cannot make decent arguments.

[Armitage]

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

Originally posted by Armitage:

Don't waste your time with Weltall. He/she can't even comprehend the benefits for a company and why they would use localization teams when releasesing in other languages.

Chrono Trigger maybe overrated. SOS is a barely average polished turd whose marketing team paid off shills to call it a masterpiece.

It also come as a massive shock that negative reviews are blasting this game for its writing and bland characters. But Garl is the best.

You're just a hater that cannot make decent arguments.

And hater is another generalised term given to the dumb sheep. Keep following, constructive criticism and opinions are being phased out to make way for the bend over yes men with no backbone.

Just like how youtube removed the ability for viewers to see the numbers of positive and negative (thumbs up and down).

Just consume, don't think don't question. Let them tell you what to think and then nod your head.