On the "free remaster" comments

[MystiQue]

I've seen people confused about why this game isn't free. I completely understand the concerns about the bugs and support everyone all the way, but this one thing bugs me.
Adding previously absent Online Mulitplayer to Overcooked 1 and upgrading the graphics is worth some price. Sure, people who already own both games should have a severe discount, but free?
Some Remasters are 40$, but I guess that's ok, because it's for older games, which are exclusive to a dated system? What were people expecting a full-reimagining alla RE2:Remake?

Side note: Please do fix the bugs though, lol, pretty bad look.

[Vista]

I can appreciate the fact that it took work to make it happen (not worth $40 to me personally), but as someone who owns Overcooked 1 + dlc and bought Overcooked 2 + dlc with a friend only 3 months ago, All You Can Eat is just a kick in the balls.

Originally posted by GRamsey | Hen_Nessy:

Some Remasters are 40$, but I guess that's ok, because it's for older games, which are exclusive to a dated system?

100% yes. Hence why the PC > PC port with 15% launch loyalty discount is insulting. If they wanted to, this could've been a free update to Overcooked 2 (updated graphics, crossplay) with Overcooked 1 coming in as a separate dlc, but instead they wanted to milk their fans for what amounts to me as Overcooked 1 in the Overcooked 2 engine

[MystiQue]

Originally posted by Vista:

I can appreciate the fact that it took work to make it happen (not worth $40 to me personally), but as someone who owns Overcooked 1 + dlc and bought Overcooked 2 + dlc with a friend only 3 months ago, All You Can Eat is just a kick in the balls.

Originally posted by GRamsey | Hen_Nessy:

Some Remasters are 40$, but I guess that's ok, because it's for older games, which are exclusive to a dated system?

100% yes. Hence why the PC > PC port with 15% launch loyalty discount is insulting. If they wanted to, this could've been a free update to Overcooked 2 (updated graphics, crossplay) with Overcooked 1 coming in as a separate dlc, but instead they wanted to milk their fans for what amounts to me as Overcooked 1 in the Overcooked 2 engine

Honestly, fair. I still think that stuff like crossplay, added online to the first game, accessibility options and some of the new exclusive content is cool, especially for newcomers, but I totally understand how it's not "enough" and how the price tag is too high for someone who owns both installements (especially with DLC).

I just honestly wish people were more understanding, the game devs are getting bombarded with a bunch of vitriol.

P.S. I've only played the game with friends, this is the first one I actually bought myself, so the price isn't an issue for me (just trying to empathize).

[Draktok]

It's weirdly missing some features according to reviews and comments though, hence me not buying it: doesn't work on steam link(????) and they disabled remote play together.

[MystiQue]

Originally posted by Draktok:

It's weirdly missing some features according to reviews and comments though, hence me not buying it: doesn't work on steam link(????) and they disabled remote play together.

oh, oooh, I didn't know about that. We bought it with my brother on PS4 today and were having a blast playing online together.

My best wishes go out to both the customers and devs, I hope this situation ends well.

[Lauren_Team17]

Originally posted by Draktok:

It's weirdly missing some features according to reviews and comments though, hence me not buying it: doesn't work on steam link(????) and they disabled remote play together.

I've asked the team about Steam Link, but we'll be fixing the issue with Remote Play very soon.

[Vicpool]

Originally posted by Lauren_Team17:

Originally posted by Draktok:

It's weirdly missing some features according to reviews and comments though, hence me not buying it: doesn't work on steam link(????) and they disabled remote play together.

I've asked the team about Steam Link, but we'll be fixing the issue with Remote Play very soon.

I'm reading some comments about "Remote Play coming soon", but I got a simple question about it. When you talk about Remote Play, you mean Remote Play TOGETHER, or Remote Play on TV/other devices? Cause that's a pretty big difference, and at least in my case the main reason I'm very upset with this remaster is the lack of Remote Play TOGETHER (already available in non remastered OC2). Thanks for your time and have a nice day.

[Draktok]

Originally posted by Lauren_Team17:

Originally posted by Draktok:

It's weirdly missing some features according to reviews and comments though, hence me not buying it: doesn't work on steam link(????) and they disabled remote play together.

I've asked the team about Steam Link, but we'll be fixing the issue with Remote Play very soon.

ok when steam link is fixed i will buy it and upvote it

[Draktok]

Originally posted by Vicpool:

Originally posted by Lauren_Team17:

I've asked the team about Steam Link, but we'll be fixing the issue with Remote Play very soon.

I'm reading some comments about "Remote Play coming soon", but I got a simple question about it. When you talk about Remote Play, you mean Remote Play TOGETHER, or Remote Play on TV/other devices? Cause that's a pretty big difference, and at least in my case the main reason I'm very upset with this remaster is the lack of Remote Play TOGETHER (already available in non remastered OC2). Thanks for your time and have a nice day.

it seems both are not working, hence steam link not working and remote play together not working

[Vicpool]

Originally posted by Draktok:

Originally posted by Vicpool:

I'm reading some comments about "Remote Play coming soon", but I got a simple question about it. When you talk about Remote Play, you mean Remote Play TOGETHER, or Remote Play on TV/other devices? Cause that's a pretty big difference, and at least in my case the main reason I'm very upset with this remaster is the lack of Remote Play TOGETHER (already available in non remastered OC2). Thanks for your time and have a nice day.

it seems both are not working, hence steam link not working and remote play together not working

Yeh, but still my point is that (take as example non-remaster Overcooked 2 so you can check this if you want) there are different game labels related to "Remote Play", such as "Remote Play on TV", "Remote Play on Tablet", "Remote Play on Smartphone" or "Remote Play Together", but they are all different things/options, and some games have one of them available, and others can have others (or none, or all)... So my question is what they actually mean when they say they are fixing "Remote Play": which of those kinds of Remote Play are they adding, cause they imply very different things. Problem is the name is so similar it makes it very confusing to know (as said, you can check this label's mess I'm talking about in OC2 store page, and compare it with other coop games, or OC remaster itself).

[Deus]

Originally posted by GRamsey | Hen_Nessy:

Originally posted by Vista:

I can appreciate the fact that it took work to make it happen (not worth $40 to me personally), but as someone who owns Overcooked 1 + dlc and bought Overcooked 2 + dlc with a friend only 3 months ago, All You Can Eat is just a kick in the balls.

100% yes. Hence why the PC > PC port with 15% launch loyalty discount is insulting. If they wanted to, this could've been a free update to Overcooked 2 (updated graphics, crossplay) with Overcooked 1 coming in as a separate dlc, but instead they wanted to milk their fans for what amounts to me as Overcooked 1 in the Overcooked 2 engine

Honestly, fair. I still think that stuff like crossplay, added online to the first game, accessibility options and some of the new exclusive content is cool, especially for newcomers, but I totally understand how it's not "enough" and how the price tag is too high for someone who owns both installements (especially with DLC).

I just honestly wish people were more understanding, the game devs are getting bombarded with a bunch of vitriol.

P.S. I've only played the game with friends, this is the first one I actually bought myself, so the price isn't an issue for me (just trying to empathize).

I feel like the new customers or people with deep pockets are the ones that can use "more understanding" lol. I had people insult me on these forums for just voicing my concerns over the pricing. Very toxic. I don't think anyone's bashed the actual developer for answering our questions, but at the end of the day they don't make these decisions. I think the pricing is absurd, and I feel like it's normal for people to be upset about it. And for the people who did make the decision, well, let's hope they learn a bit from this all. Otherwise Overcooked 1 & 2 will just be a happy memory.

[nehc]

Lol. I personally knew I wasn't going to spend full price on it so I basically spent the last few days entering every giveaway of the game I could find. Finally got one to find the matchmaking doesn't work and I can't play the game.

[Ｔｅｎｓｅｎｕｍａ]

I'm glad I got the games essentially for free. 2nd from humble with DLC.
Seeing this, ouch. I'd feel bad if I paid for these.

[MystiQue]

Originally posted by Deus:

Originally posted by GRamsey | Hen_Nessy:

Honestly, fair. I still think that stuff like crossplay, added online to the first game, accessibility options and some of the new exclusive content is cool, especially for newcomers, but I totally understand how it's not "enough" and how the price tag is too high for someone who owns both installements (especially with DLC).

I just honestly wish people were more understanding, the game devs are getting bombarded with a bunch of vitriol.

P.S. I've only played the game with friends, this is the first one I actually bought myself, so the price isn't an issue for me (just trying to empathize).

I feel like the new customers or people with deep pockets are the ones that can use "more understanding" lol. I had people insult me on these forums for just voicing my concerns over the pricing. Very toxic. I don't think anyone's bashed the actual developer for answering our questions, but at the end of the day they don't make these decisions. I think the pricing is absurd, and I feel like it's normal for people to be upset about it. And for the people who did make the decision, well, let's hope they learn a bit from this all. Otherwise Overcooked 1 & 2 will just be a happy memory.

That's rough man, I personally haven't seen the people bashing others, because they think the game is "overpriced", but I have seen people speaking pretty badly about the devs, both really suck, though.
But what happened to the times when people showed more understanding for indie games? Both OC1 and OC2 are lovingly crafted experiences, to think that the devs suddenly made this decision, because of greed seems absurd to me. But again, it's still a large mistake, even if an honest one.

[Deus]

Originally posted by GRamsey | Hen_Nessy:

Originally posted by Deus:

I feel like the new customers or people with deep pockets are the ones that can use "more understanding" lol. I had people insult me on these forums for just voicing my concerns over the pricing. Very toxic. I don't think anyone's bashed the actual developer for answering our questions, but at the end of the day they don't make these decisions. I think the pricing is absurd, and I feel like it's normal for people to be upset about it. And for the people who did make the decision, well, let's hope they learn a bit from this all. Otherwise Overcooked 1 & 2 will just be a happy memory.

That's rough man, I personally haven't seen the people bashing others, because they think the game is "overpriced", but I have seen people speaking pretty badly about the devs, both really suck, though.
But what happened to the times when people showed more understanding for indie games? Both OC1 and OC2 are lovingly crafted experiences, to think that the devs suddenly made this decision, because of greed seems absurd to me. But again, it's still a large mistake, even if an honest one.

Yeah, I do agree. I would understand if this was a big soulless corp like EA or something. But lots of indie devs definitely need the community support. But I think Team 17: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team17 controls the pricing. It's also a 30 years old company, so they have lots of experience. This kind of seems like a money grabbing move to me.

I think some gamer's just don't understand that there's a lot of people involved and the devs generally don't control pricing. Or they just don't think about it much and just need something to release their anger. Either way I think the majority on the forums are tame, and are a lot better at discourse then myself lol.

[s p a c e j a n i t o r]

Originally posted by GRamsey | Hen_Nessy:

But what happened to the times when people showed more understanding for indie games? Both OC1 and OC2 are lovingly crafted experiences, to think that the devs suddenly made this decision, because of greed seems absurd to me. But again, it's still a large mistake, even if an honest one.

OC2 also included a lot of free content dispersed between the Season Pass DLC but I don't see where you think there is a mistake or an "honest mistake' involved. Or in a sort of kind naive grace you are showing them. It is quite possible mainy on Team17 new this would be a bad idea but we can speculate forever. What happened is, we are being sold old content with a basic finish that we already paid for.

People never understand the most basic of concepts:
WHO PAID FOR EVERYTHING?
WE DID. Team17 fronts the money to develop their interests.
WE pay for that. If we gave no money, then T17 has lost money, and either defaulted on a loan or owes big. That is the risk they take when developing.

If it is a success, then that is because the customers or "fans" have purchased all the outstanding 'debt' and covered all their expenses, including the food they eat, the gas they use and the air conditioned rooms they work in.

They have no success until WE BUY IT. Which we did in full: They made a second, even bigger game. The fans have paid plenty at full price and now they want the fans to cover the cost for the discount they are offering to new players.

New customers get everything for $40
Fans get to pay over $100 to support them longer. They have exploited their customers and there is no "honest mistake" to be found.