Cant seem to load the next fragment that is required for progression?

[Patrick O]

Im playing the fragments mini game and i have played all the fragments required to unlock the next one but it says it cannot be loaded yet. I tried that fragment earlier when figuring out what fragment to play next previously, so the little 'window' is broken. is that why i cannot load the next fragment? because i have already tried to load it out of order?
im trying to access the 'distrust of the mother of the queen', i have played c103 dose experiment, and an accident at the shirakawa park.

do i have to restart the game or?

[fllthdcrb]

The broken appearance just lets you know you tried to access it too early. You can still access it once you have all of the prerequisites. It's very forgiving in that sense, except that if you try for a certain special thing, you're not allowed to make any such mistakes, and have to read them in a specific, precise order.

But are you sure you saw all the prerequisites for this? I think maybe you misunderstand what the descriptions are saying. A lot of the descriptions are things you can only find within the text of the needed Fragments, not e.g. the titles of those Fragments. For instance, notice that "Distrust..." says that it requires "Results of the research on C103 and H107" and "The truth about the Shirakawa park accident". It should be fairly obvious, but the other Fragments you mention are not those prereqs. I mean, when you read "C103 dose experiment", were the results described?

I hope you've been reading carefully, because some of the things you need are mentioned only in passing, so if you're not paying attention, you can easily miss them, and then you'll be left wondering whether you saw what you need or not.

I always recommend people to start by to looking through all of the listed Fragments, writing down the Fragments along with their prereqs, and then having the list in front of them as they read, so they can mark them off when seen.

[Ghostwitch350]

Is your problem solved? I have the same issue here, and I am pretty sure I am not missing out on some information because I literally had to try clicking on every single fragments left and they all said "can't be connected yet". I am basically stuck here. Is this a bug?

[fllthdcrb]

Actually, I found out there is one Fragment where the described prereqs are incorrect, and it in fact doesn't require anything else. Other than that, I don't believe there are any problems. But even so, that should not result in you being unable to proceed.

Can you tell us exactly which Fragments you have viewed (use a spoiler tag)? You can see which those are, because those ones have the unbroken cloudy window effect on them. To make things easy, just refer to them by pages and numbers within pages (number from 1 to 8 by rows). I'll look and see if that makes sense, and try to figure out which Fragments you should be able to access. (There is a file that tells the game the dependencies.)

[fllthdcrb]

I created a diagram of the dependencies. Maybe that will help here, even if you two are genuinely stuck?

[Topias]

I've noticed there's some kind of an issue where fragments will be marked as read (with the blue outline) even when they actually aren't. I noticed this after having gotten stuck. I took a look at fllthdcrb's diagram (thank you!), which suggested I met the requirements for a fragment, and yet it didn't open. I decided to try going through the two required fragments again, at which point I noticed that the second one was completely new to me, despite having appeared as previously read.

My as-of-yet unconfirmed theory is that this somehow happens when a fragment with a broken thumbnail becomes available.

Edit: Having spent some more time with the game, it seems that my theory is accurate. What happens is that a fragment with a previously broken thumbnail gains the blue outline while also maintaining the broken appearance upon becoming available. Once it's actually read, the broken appearance will disappear and the blue outline will remain.

YMMV, of course.

[fllthdcrb]

Originally posted by Topias:

Edit: Having spent some more time with the game, it seems that my theory is accurate. What happens is that a fragment with a previously broken thumbnail gains the blue outline while also maintaining the broken appearance upon becoming available. Once it's actually read, the broken appearance will disappear and the blue outline will remain.

I'm not really clear on your description, but as best I can tell, this is the normal behavior (or at least it has always worked this way; even in MG's previous version, it did): if you try to view a Fragment too early, it will have the broken appearance on its thumbnail until you view it at an appropriate time. That appearance doesn't go away immediately when it's available.

I think there's confusion because the introduction says that "she'll let you know" when you're "able to connect the [Fragments] you couldn't put together earlier." This doesn't actually happen in any way, and now that I think about it, it could be considered a bug (then again, it might be how it was intended to work, and the intro is what's incorrect). My apologies. I knew about this, but I didn't think that it could be a problem for people. And thank you, Topias, for pointing out what the problem might be.

In any case, if the above is the problem, it is not a true impediment; you can view Fragments when they're said to be available (except "Footsteps in the fourth year" incorrectly describes two prerequisites when it actually has none); you just can't see that it's the case.

EDIT: Now I see what you meant about the "blue outline". I never noticed that before. Well, that tells me it's definitely how it's meant to work. It's just not very obvious.

[Topias]

I guess it makes sense if it's intended behavior. It's just really unintuitive at least to me.

Broken thumbnail: Tried to access too early. Still not accessible.
Blue outline: Already read.
Broken thumbnail + blue outline: Tried to access too early. Now accessible. Not already read.

[Pabbles]

Thanks for the breakdown my game crashed and lost me 5-6 fragments of progress that I had to skip my way through and I was left confused because the things I've read pre-crash are still done in my mind and the blue outline on broken tiles is misleading

[『Dekross』]

Originally posted by Topias:

I guess it makes sense if it's intended behavior. It's just really unintuitive at least to me.

Broken thumbnail: Tried to access too early. Still not accessible.
Blue outline: Already read.
Broken thumbnail + blue outline: Tried to access too early. Now accessible. Not already read.

Thank you. You are the only one who has grasped the problem and explained it. Other people are just yapping, probably because they haven't experienced this problem and just answer like: "idk read more fragments It's your problem". Thank you for actually solve this.