I am against Halo's future in Unreal Engine

[ZodiacThundaga]

Halo was always at the forefront of tech. CE helped usher in bump mapping and pixel shaders, and Reach, as antiquated as it was, had an early form of TAA that gave it a unique look. Not to mention the timelessness of Halo 3's graphics.
Unreal just takes away all the beauty. Halo won't ever be beautiful again.

[KairanShadow]

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Originally posted by Pyrocitor:

So after lamenting that putting it on unreal would be unoriginal and make it feel like a bunch of other games, you want it on the same engine tree as Call of Duty instead?

Yes, though that's not entirely fair. I wouldn't call it COD's engine tree, but Quake's. Besides, it's not like it'd literally be using CoD's engine.

So you don't want it to use the unreal tournament engine because fake reasons but you're perfectly fine with ANOTHER engine that derived off the 90s boomer shooters

all of your complaints about UE apply to doom engine as well

[ZodiacThundaga]

Doom Engine isn't widely used. Problem as I believe I've said on this thread before was that it made them too too similar. UE did.

Originally posted by KairanShadow:

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Yes, though that's not entirely fair. I wouldn't call it COD's engine tree, but Quake's. Besides, it's not like it'd literally be using CoD's engine.

So you don't want it to use the unreal tournament engine because fake reasons but you're perfectly fine with ANOTHER engine that derived off the 90s boomer shooters

all of your complaints about UE apply to doom engine as well

[KairanShadow]

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Doom Engine isn't widely used. Problem as I believe I've said on this thread before was that it made them too too similar. UE did.

Originally posted by KairanShadow:

So you don't want it to use the unreal tournament engine because fake reasons but you're perfectly fine with ANOTHER engine that derived off the 90s boomer shooters

all of your complaints about UE apply to doom engine as well

And you literally ignored all the games that look, and play nothing like one another while sharing zero issues despite all of them on UE4 or UE5

So the actual reason you want it on Doom is to have a notlikeothergames moment

[ZodiacThundaga]

Except they do look like each other. That's the biggest issue, at least to me.

Originally posted by KairanShadow:

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Doom Engine isn't widely used. Problem as I believe I've said on this thread before was that it made them too too similar. UE did.

And you literally ignored all the games that look, and play nothing like one another while sharing zero issues despite all of them on UE4 or UE5

So the actual reason you want it on Doom is to have a notlikeothergames moment

[Harrald Hairy-Breeks]

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Except they do look like each other. That's the biggest issue, at least to me.

Originally posted by KairanShadow:

And you literally ignored all the games that look, and play nothing like one another while sharing zero issues despite all of them on UE4 or UE5

So the actual reason you want it on Doom is to have a notlikeothergames moment

Thinking ID tech engine looks any different between games is hilarious.

[ZodiacThundaga]

They really don't, but there's few enough. Not an entire industry's worth.

Originally posted by Harrald Hairy-Breeks:

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Except they do look like each other. That's the biggest issue, at least to me.

Thinking ID tech engine looks any different between games is hilarious.

[fuazo]

seems like i seen you somewhere

[ZodiacThundaga]

Glad you remember me then. Hope you remembered what I said.

[Aspen]

Originally posted by Shep:

Well said

[KairanShadow]

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Except they do look like each other. That's the biggest issue, at least to me.

Originally posted by KairanShadow:

And you literally ignored all the games that look, and play nothing like one another while sharing zero issues despite all of them on UE4 or UE5

So the actual reason you want it on Doom is to have a notlikeothergames moment

You are seriously trying to tell me this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiSDlPc7r0g

this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hPuRQz6IlM

this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnSsgRJmsCc

and this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g909vB-BSXo

All look the same to you?

[evilwombat]

That may be true, but at least it won't ♥♥♥♥ the bed on the loading screen, 9 out of 10 times you try launching it. Probably.

[ZodiacThundaga]

Originally posted by KairanShadow:

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Except they do look like each other. That's the biggest issue, at least to me.

You are seriously trying to tell me this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiSDlPc7r0g

this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hPuRQz6IlM

this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnSsgRJmsCc

and this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g909vB-BSXo

All look the same to you?

I don't want to break your heart, but... kinda. They all have the same kinda shaders to me. The same softness. I might not be able to pinpoint WHY, but I know I don't want an entire industry to look like it.

[adaa12345678]

Slipspace has two modes blurred to hell by TAA or oversharpened to try and pry any detail back from the smudge. I'd love to see Halo in an adaptable modern engine with actual options for alternatives to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ TAA. RN best I can get is supersampling at the driver level but you can't disable the TAA, only set it to low or high. Great Tech 343!

I think a big part of Unreal's rep comes from the 7th gen unreal engine 3 games when every developer was making linear military shooters with brown, and grey colour palettes that never really did anything Gears of War or CoD hadn't already done by 2006.

For every Dishonored or Bioshock Infinite, there was a Homefront or Medal of Honour Airborne

edit: Okay Steam, you win it's not ♥♥♥♥ space engine. I'm sorry for "hiding" the unbelievably offensive word ♥♥♥♥ into the word slipspace. Based on what I see in the community tab spewing anti-lgbt, great replacement ♥♥♥♥ all day from a whermacht larp account is chill. Say the word ♥♥♥♥, automodded and warned. Is this a second grade classroom? What can I say? Poop, crap, dookie, are those fine?

[ZodiacThundaga]

Originally posted by adaa12345678:

Slipspace has two modes blurred to hell by TAA or oversharpened to try and pry any detail back from the smudge. I'd love to see Halo in an adaptable modern engine with actual options for alternatives to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ TAA. RN best I can get is supersampling at the driver level but you can't disable the TAA, only set it to low or high. Great Tech 343!

I think a big part of Unreal's rep comes from the 7th gen unreal engine 3 games when every developer was making linear military shooters with brown, and grey colour palettes that never really did anything Gears of War or CoD hadn't already done by 2006.

For every Dishonored or Bioshock Infinite, there was a Homefront or Medal of Honour Airborne

edit: Okay Steam, you win it's not ♥♥♥♥ space engine. I'm sorry for "hiding" the unbelievably offensive word ♥♥♥♥ into the word slipspace. Based on what I see in the community tab spewing anti-lgbt, great replacement ♥♥♥♥ all day from a whermacht larp account is chill. Say the word ♥♥♥♥, automodded and warned. Is this a second grade classroom? What can I say? Poop, crap, dookie, are those fine? :lunar2019laughingpig:

How about Id Tech?

[adaa12345678]

Originally posted by ZodiacThundaga:

Originally posted by adaa12345678:

Slipspace has two modes blurred to hell by TAA or oversharpened to try and pry any detail back from the smudge. I'd love to see Halo in an adaptable modern engine with actual options for alternatives to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ TAA. RN best I can get is supersampling at the driver level but you can't disable the TAA, only set it to low or high. Great Tech 343!

I think a big part of Unreal's rep comes from the 7th gen unreal engine 3 games when every developer was making linear military shooters with brown, and grey colour palettes that never really did anything Gears of War or CoD hadn't already done by 2006.

For every Dishonored or Bioshock Infinite, there was a Homefront or Medal of Honour Airborne

edit: Okay Steam, you win it's not ♥♥♥♥ space engine. I'm sorry for "hiding" the unbelievably offensive word ♥♥♥♥ into the word slipspace. Based on what I see in the community tab spewing anti-lgbt, great replacement ♥♥♥♥ all day from a whermacht larp account is chill. Say the word ♥♥♥♥, automodded and warned. Is this a second grade classroom? What can I say? Poop, crap, dookie, are those fine?

How about Id Tech?

Id tech could be an interesting swap as well. It's a good looking engine with all the modern bells and whistles, RT, HDR, VRS, PBR, and options for AA. Plus based on Doom Eternal, id tech 7 runs like a dream and scales down well to lower end hardware. Hell, they got it running on a switch with minimal frame pacing and stutter issues. Unreal 4 games can barely do that.