Battlepass ruins the heart of Halo multiplayer

[Pale]

Cosmetics have always been a core part of Halo's multiplayer. Now what feels like 99% of all cosmetics are locked behind a $30 season pass, PER SEASON. This is terrible.

[Jdm262]

引用自 NoShotz：

It's a 10 dollar pass, you don't need to grab the one that gives you 25 levels from the get go. We do need performance based XP though.

We definitely need performance based XP, it's taking forever to get past level 1. $10 isn't much, true, but it takes absolutely FOREVER to unlock anything as a free player. I've played many FTP games before and most give you enough to create a somewhat customized character.

It's also ridiculous that some basic colors are locked being payment and you can't customize what color certain pieces are. This is something that has been around in Halo games for years, for FREE! Everyone looks the same. It's rare to find someone with even some kind of customization.

[NoShotz]

引用自 Winterstorm：

引用自 NoShotz：

It's a 10 dollar pass, you don't need to grab the one that gives you 25 levels from the get go. We do need performance based XP though.

We definitely need performance based XP, it's taking forever to get past level 1. $10 isn't much, true, but it takes absolutely FOREVER to unlock anything as a free player. I've played many FTP games before and most give you enough to create a somewhat customized character.

It's also ridiculous that some basic colors are locked being payment and you can't customize what color certain pieces are. This is something that has been around in Halo games for years, for FREE! Everyone looks the same. It's rare to find someone with even some kind of customization.

Yeah, progression could be better, in a twitter thread they said they will be adding a constant play one match challenge in an update this week.

https://twitter.com/Unyshek/status/1461124062021763072?t=7fyaOgdaGOuIX-zIOe_vmw&s=19

[Wombat]

引用自 Fweezy：

Imagine being mad that halo multiplayer is free. And you gotta pay $10 for a battlepass vs paying $60 for the game.

Try being Canadian, and having to pay $80 for the campaign and $60 for a decent amount of credits. I think the credits are insanely expensive, and have weird stages compared to the cost for battle pass stuff. They should have a credit amount for each battle pass type, so someone doesn't need to buy 5000 credits if they only wanted 2800 for the fancy premium pass.

[NoShotz]

引用自 Wombat：

引用自 Fweezy：

Imagine being mad that halo multiplayer is free. And you gotta pay $10 for a battlepass vs paying $60 for the game.

Try being Canadian, and having to pay $80 for the campaign and $60 for a decent amount of credits. I think the credits are insanely expensive, and have weird stages compared to the cost for battle pass stuff. They should have a credit amount for each battle pass type, so someone doesn't need to buy 5000 credits if they only wanted 2800 for the fancy premium pass.

You don't need to get the 2800 credit pass, it's the same as the 1000 credit pass, you just get a 25 rank head start with the 2800 credit pass.

[henryfleischer01]

Here's how I see it: I don't have a job. I'm living with my parents. I was all set to get a job right out of high school, and then the pandemic hit, and I was wanting to get a welding job. I don't like killing my parents and grandparents, so I didn't get a job (Currently I'm planning on going to college to learn to be a programmer, I like it as much as welding, but I can wear pretty dresses while doing it). Because of that, for me money is tight. $10 is enough to get an entire game that could last me quite a while- touhou 12.8 costs $11. For an entire game that could take years to master. Microsoft is not a small, indie developer. Games are a side-business for them. They don't need that much money from this.

Also, my main experience with cosmetics was gary's mod. People make them for free and put them up on the steam workshop. For free. $0. If I ever get ambitious, I can make my own- I know how to use vroid studio and blender, and it would only take me about a week to learn how to do it, even if I decide to learn the proportions trick.

[nakoda]

god f2p pulls in the cancer gamers.

[W1CKUSH]

i pre ordered the game and got nothing extra. people get multiplayer for free and complain about a battle pass lol, entitled much?

[Wombat]

引用自 Grunt Ultra with potato pc：

引用自 Kathrynerius：

And I know someone might pick on this, acting like I just suck at the game and don't get any xp, so look at my profile, and see the load of rare achievements and stuff, lol. I've been doing the challenges as they come, but you basically just get scraps for playing. I'm really not sure how to feel about it. It does seem sluggishly slow. I remember back in Halo 4 I reached max rank in the first week, and here it's seeming like after the first week, I'll be about level 4-5, and have just challenge swap tickets to show for it, as I think all the unlocks were premium only. Reach armor, visor, helmet, etc.

Reject infinite, Return to Reach

The red visor is one of the few f2p cosmetic items in the battle pass, and, granted, it looks nice, but not really enough to justify anything else being paid or so expensive. Every Reach armour piece is locked, which feels like a cheap blow to anyone who has played the other games, Reach especially. Armour and most cosmetics in the other games meant something, and were often unlocked by xp/leveling up or even by completing in-game challenges, so it seems really backwards to make the cosmetic rewards pay only. What they could do instead is simply have a viable in-game way of earning credits. It may take a bit of grinding, but then people have the option of also paying for the credits. This way, a free to play player doesn't feel jipped for their efforts, and can enjoy the rewards of a battle pass as well if they save their credits.

[Jay]

引用自 3p0fly：

i pre ordered the game and got nothing extra. people get multiplayer for free and complain about a battle pass lol, entitled much?

you are massively retarded do you even know what true entitlement means. you Pre-Ordered good on you but that doesn't mean we can say ♥♥♥♥ because you Pre-Ordered lmao.

[Jay]

引用自 Wombat：

引用自 Grunt Ultra with potato pc：

Reject infinite, Return to Reach

The red visor is one of the few f2p cosmetic items in the battle pass, and, granted, it looks nice, but not really enough to justify anything else being paid or so expensive. Every Reach armour piece is locked, which feels like a cheap blow to anyone who has played the other games, Reach especially. Armour and most cosmetics in the other games meant something, and were often unlocked by xp/leveling up or even by completing in-game challenges, so it seems really backwards to make the cosmetic rewards pay only. What they could do instead is simply have a viable in-game way of earning credits. It may take a bit of grinding, but then people have the option of also paying for the credits. This way, a free to play player doesn't feel jipped for their efforts, and can enjoy the rewards of a battle pass as well if they save their credits.

can we just remove bp as a whole along with the microtransactions and reconnect Halo together, its a WAY better decision.

[Wombat]

引用自 NoShotz：

引用自 Wombat：

Try being Canadian, and having to pay $80 for the campaign and $60 for a decent amount of credits. I think the credits are insanely expensive, and have weird stages compared to the cost for battle pass stuff. They should have a credit amount for each battle pass type, so someone doesn't need to buy 5000 credits if they only wanted 2800 for the fancy premium pass.

You don't need to get the 2800 credit pass, it's the same as the 1000 credit pass, you just get a 25 rank head start with the 2800 credit pass.

Yeah, I know. I was just meaning that the credit amounts seem weird, and if someone wanted to stock up on credits for future battle passes, $60 or $130 is a lot to pay for 5000 or 10000 credits, when that many doesn't seem to go very far. I think one armour bundle alone from the store was 2000 credits, which means over $25 for just one armour set in a video game.

[djcarey]

immma buy 50,000 credits and be the top mf on the thing!!

[Hermit]

引用自 Grunt Ultra with potato pc：

引用自 NoShotz：

It's a free to play game, the game needs to make money in some way.

They knew they could just make money off of the campaign packaged with multiplayer making it worth 60$ instead they turned it into a cash cow.

And when people stop buying the game, then what? How do they make money going forward to continue supporting the game?

People like you can't seem to grasp the fact that online games need to make money at a steady rate for support to continue over many years. Game sales alone would not keep this game running for many years.

[🅺🆈🅾🅽]

Fr this does NOT feel like halo anymore.

[NoShotz]

引用自 🅴🆁🆄🅴🅺🅰：

Fr this does NOT feel like halo anymore.

It feels a hell of a lot more like halo than halo 5.