Remove or Buff Commando

[King]

Why even put a gun with 0 bullet magnetism AND awful bloom in the game???

I don't get it.

[DyD&Marina]

Originally posted by King:

Originally posted by WarToad:

It's a heavy machinegun. Not all videogame 'rifles' are the same, nor should be used the same.

Completely incorrect. Neither the Devs nor the Fanbase describe it as a machine gun.

The SAW is a machine gun.

Here's a little exert from Halopedia (a little more definitive than some dude on a forum insisting that it's a secret machine gun)

The VK78 Commando is featured in Halo Infinite as an automatic tactical rifle, which deals kinetic damage. It is a precision weapon, meaning it is capable of inflicting headshots on unshielded targets, killing them instantly. Although automatic, it has a relatively slow rate of fire. The weapon has a single zoom level and is most effective at medium to long ranges, faltering in close quarters due to weaker aim assist than other weapons. It has significant recoil when fired consistently, which can make the weapon difficult to control and aim.

I assume this little bit is using lore and actual gameplay elements to come to this conclusion. Idk. It's a rifle intended for long range not a machine gun.

Originally posted by Dervish:

5.6% of the players that use steam (Does not include Gamepass and Xbox players)

God forbid an achievements be challenging in anyway... Do you whinge about "Headmaster" only being done by 0.1% of the players? If it was "easy to do" then it wouldn't be "achievement worthy" would it?

That achievement for landing a series of headshots in succession, all you need to do is shoot people in the head and don't miss any shots and you'll get it.

If you can't shoot people in the head consistently, then you need to get better at the game...

You're right, the amount of players who've completed that challenge is probably smaller than 5.6%. The gun got nerfed bad bad. It took plenty of skill to use in the Flights and was really good (BR good).

I know you'd grab the BR any day over the Commando. Don't lie.

On xbox app of pc gamepass 4,80% of the players earned this achievement.

But is hard to call this a challenge when you simple kill someone with an headshot on pc.

The problem is the commando isn't balanced compared to other weapons, can be used, you can get kills, but is simple inferior to many weapons, AR, BR and pistol for first.

The recoil is low compared to game really need skill but surely Commando need more skill of many weapons, specially the three i have already talked.

[Dervish]

Originally posted by King:

I know you'd grab the BR any day over the Commando. Don't lie.

Nah I genuinely like the Commando, I remember first time I used it and thinking "this gun's badass"

The only time I've had trouble with it is if I'm out of range or I'm dumb and hold down the trigger instead of burst firing

Just learn to aim and its great (Hint: shoot people in the head)

The achievement you're whinging about was literally one of the first I got and I'm not even that great at this game...

[Erior92]

Originally posted by bradams:

Originally posted by King:

Why even put a gun with 0 bullet magnetism AND awful bloom in the game???

I don't get it.

Yea, I'm really confused by all the people who love this game while saying "Halo Reach was trash, the DMR had bloom!" Like, have they never shot the commando? Its bloom almost maxes out after a single shot. I genuinely think its bloom is worse than the snipers. Its only real use is stealing the final headshot on a guy someone else is fighting cause its only reliable for 1 shot every 3 seconds.

dude the DMR was my favorite I loved it, the Commando is only useful in like super close range or finishing off someone once their shield is down, commando on pc at least is a spray and pray that you hit a few shots, i think it would be ok if it had 4 more shots then it would be more balanced.

[DyD&Marina]

Originally posted by Dervish:

Originally posted by King:

I know you'd grab the BR any day over the Commando. Don't lie.

Nah I genuinely like the Commando, I remember first time I used it and thinking "this gun's badass"

The only time I've had trouble with it is if I'm out of range or I'm dumb and hold down the trigger instead of burst firing

Just learn to aim and its great (Hint: shoot people in the head)

The achievement you're whinging about was literally one of the first I got and I'm not even that great at this game...

There is no need to do more than one shoot to the head.

Headshot on shield not do more damage.

The thing you not understand is one and very simple.

I try to explain to you with a simple question.

Why use a weapon need control when you can use weapons don't need any control and perform very similar?

If you answer to this question with sincerity you will understand why command isn't balanced in line with the other weapons.

[WarToad]

Originally posted by King:

Originally posted by WarToad:

It's a heavy machinegun. Not all videogame 'rifles' are the same, nor should be used the same.

Completely incorrect. Neither the Devs nor the Fanbase describe it as a machine gun.

The SAW is a machine gun.

Here's a little exert from Halopedia (a little more definitive than some dude on a forum insisting that it's a secret machine gun)

The VK78 Commando is featured in Halo Infinite as an automatic tactical rifle, which deals kinetic damage. It is a precision weapon, meaning it is capable of inflicting headshots on unshielded targets, killing them instantly. Although automatic, it has a relatively slow rate of fire. The weapon has a single zoom level and is most effective at medium to long ranges, faltering in close quarters due to weaker aim assist than other weapons. It has significant recoil when fired consistently, which can make the weapon difficult to control and aim.

I assume this little bit is using lore and actual gameplay elements to come to this conclusion. Idk. It's a rifle intended for long range not a machine gun.

Originally posted by Dervish:

5.6% of the players that use steam (Does not include Gamepass and Xbox players)

God forbid an achievements be challenging in anyway... Do you whinge about "Headmaster" only being done by 0.1% of the players? If it was "easy to do" then it wouldn't be "achievement worthy" would it?

That achievement for landing a series of headshots in succession, all you need to do is shoot people in the head and don't miss any shots and you'll get it.

If you can't shoot people in the head consistently, then you need to get better at the game...

You're right, the amount of players who've completed that challenge is probably smaller than 5.6%. The gun got nerfed bad bad. It took plenty of skill to use in the Flights and was really good (BR good).

I know you'd grab the BR any day over the Commando. Don't lie.

I didn't read past the 1st sentence. Look at it. Watch it shoot. It's a machinegun.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Apparently the Commando can kill faster then the Battle Rifle. It's just that the Battle Rifle is easier to use:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRnlU3jMSok

[King]

Originally posted by Dervish:

Just learn to aim and its great (Hint: shoot people in the head)

The achievement you're whinging about was literally one of the first I got and I'm not even that great at this game...

Dude don't start with the passive aggressive "aim for the head" tips.

I also never complained about the achievement. Somebody brought it up and I used it as an example to make a case for how bad the gun is.

I've had good matches with the Commando. It just gets outperformed by a BR and I really don't see why anybody would take it over the BR.

And like I said before it was great in the BTB Flight and it still took skill to use.

[King]

Originally posted by WarToad:

I didn't read past the 1st sentence. Look at it. Watch it shoot. It's a machinegun.

That's pretty embarrassing ngl. Just don't reply next time lol.

[Dervish]

Originally posted by DyD&Marina:

Why use a weapon need control when you can use weapons don't need any control and perform very similar?

If you answer to this question with sincerity you will understand why command isn't balanced in line with the other weapons.

Not every weapon has to be "the best" You take whatever gun you can get that is better then the one you have

If you don't like the commando then stick with the assault rifle and pistol and stop whinging.

If they buff the commando you'll be back in a week complaining "its too powerful and needs nerfing" because you'll be constantly getting wrecked by the people who already know how to use it...

[DyD&Marina]

Originally posted by Dervish:

Originally posted by DyD&Marina:

Why use a weapon need control when you can use weapons don't need any control and perform very similar?

If you answer to this question with sincerity you will understand why command isn't balanced in line with the other weapons.

Not every weapon has to be "the best" You take whatever gun you can get that is better then the one you have

If you don't like the commando then stick with the assault rifle and pistol and stop whinging.

If they buff the commando you'll be back in a week complaining "its too powerful and needs nerfing" because you'll be constantly getting wrecked by the people who already know how to use it...

You are really confused.

Commando is easy to use.

We are talking of a console fps, so is semplified.

Recoil is barely relevant on commando compared to skilled based fps for mouse and keyboard.

The fact is there are easier weapons with no recoil and they are starting weapons.

I understand is a console fps, so they need to cater the casuals, but at least a bit of balancing must be done.

[King]

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Apparently the Commando can kill faster then the Battle Rifle. It's just that the Battle Rifle is easier to use:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRnlU3jMSok

The guy is shooting stationary bots while using a controller.. so yeah the Commando looks great under those conditions.

Most people will move out of the way or find cover before you land your 7-13 shots.

I guess TTK isn't everything when the BR literally has next to no recoil and Commando players can't reliably hit shots as fast as the guy in the video you linked.

The pro players will still use the BR and probably rate it as a higher tier weapon overall.

[Rollio]

Its alright, the shock weapons need a rework in my opinion, i get them all the time in fiesta and have got 3 alright kills with them

[HappierParsley]

DON`T HOLD THE TRIGGER! PAM...PAM...PAM <shoot like DMR from H:R/H4/H5

[SteelAngel]

Originally posted by King:

Originally posted by TeeRoyTV:

Yall are trash, its insane close range, start mid chest hold it down and the 6th shot (the perfect) will catch their head. Git Gud at tracking scrubs

>Le Git Gud
>Aims at people's chest

Are you playing on controller?

I am one of the 5% who got a perfect with the commando (check my stats!) And I suck at Halo. I got it by accident by aiming at a jumping guy, hitting him in the chest, panicking and letting the bloom track up to the headshot.

With that said, the Commando doesn't do enough damage per shot to be worth anything more than the BR.

[WarToad]

Originally posted by King:

Originally posted by WarToad:

I didn't read past the 1st sentence. Look at it. Watch it shoot. It's a machinegun.

That's pretty embarrassing ngl. Just don't reply next time lol.

This thread is embarrassing so I guess it fits. It's just endless whining., All you've done is ignore valid points and make excuses. Just accept that you suck with this gun. We all have one gun we hate and can't get the hang of, it's fine.