What is left to Earn in Halo Infinite? Where's Hayabusa, Where's Recon?

[Marius]

How much does it cost to buy them on the market?
The pride of earning something others don't have.
It's been replaced by how deep your pockets are.
It doesn't matter what rank I am, or how hard I fight to complete the game %100
I have nothing to show others that I have done it. In fact I look like a basic ♥♥♥♥♥ with nothing to my name.

What a joke.

*Edit
Here's a little nostalgia, from me to all of you.

I remember me and my friend having a slight bet, we were both going to earn the Hayabusa set, but we had to do it on Legendary. (The Level Cortana was a ♥♥♥♥♥ to do.)
I know Hayabusa is strictly easier to get than Recon, but the memories of staying up nightly trying to desperately claw my way to some of these skulls was an absolute hell to my younger self.

I persevered, I overcame.

The moment I picked up that last skull, and completed the Warthog run, would be a twofer.
The first time I EVER beat any Halo on Legendary, and the completion of my goal in attaining Hayabusa Armor.

The Pride, the Relief, and everything I played video games for came rushing to me.
An Arbitrary accomplishment that meant the world.
This free to play nonsense has taken away so much of that it's... angering, frustrating, disappointing?
It was so close, within a hairs breadth away from rekindling that fire that Halo gave to me all those years ago.

[Leah]

The battle pass is perfectly fine progression, and it costs only 10$.

Hayabusa isn't just going to be thrown in, 343 doesn't have the rights to it.

If they implemented the vidmaster recon challenges today, it'd get more flak than the coatings and the store combined, it was the worst decision Bungie ever made for the series, fans didn't enjoy it.

You keep uttering this total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but every match I see players flexing their high battle pass rewards (which they got for playing, not paying.) just like they would their armor effects in Reach, or their Recon/Hayabusa in 3.

The difference here is, you actually have to put in elbow grease to earn it, instead of afking grifball/grinding firefight idly or just googling skull locations, by all means it's a straight improvement from the systems that the old Bungie forums complained about.

[Asternshelf24]

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

The battle pass is perfectly fine progression, and it costs only 10$.

Hayabusa isn't just going to be thrown in, 343 doesn't have the rights to it.

If they implemented the vidmaster recon challenges today, it'd get more flak than the coatings and the store combined, it was the worst decision Bungie ever made for the series, fans didn't enjoy it.

You keep uttering this total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but every match I see players flexing their high battle pass rewards (which they got for playing, not paying.) just like they would their armor effects in Reach, or their Recon/Hayabusa in 3.

The difference here is, you actually have to put in elbow grease to earn it, instead of afking grifball/grinding firefight idly or just googling skull locations, by all means it's a straight improvement from the systems that the old Bungie forums complained about.

Get off your high horse called corporate ♥♥♥♥ please.

[Leah]

Publicado originalmente por Asternshelf24:

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

The battle pass is perfectly fine progression, and it costs only 10$.

Hayabusa isn't just going to be thrown in, 343 doesn't have the rights to it.

If they implemented the vidmaster recon challenges today, it'd get more flak than the coatings and the store combined, it was the worst decision Bungie ever made for the series, fans didn't enjoy it.

You keep uttering this total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but every match I see players flexing their high battle pass rewards (which they got for playing, not paying.) just like they would their armor effects in Reach, or their Recon/Hayabusa in 3.

The difference here is, you actually have to put in elbow grease to earn it, instead of afking grifball/grinding firefight idly or just googling skull locations, by all means it's a straight improvement from the systems that the old Bungie forums complained about.

Get off your high horse called corporate ♥♥♥♥ please.

Solid argument, I'm glad all you have to sling is insults, Reactionaries got your tongue or something?

[ForumBot3000™® 🤖👍✅]

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Publicado originalmente por Asternshelf24:

Get off your high horse called corporate ♥♥♥♥ please.

Solid argument, I'm glad all you have to sling is insults, Reactionaries got your tongue or something?

Just report the trolls and move on, its obvious when the insults begin to fly that they have no real counterargument to begin with. It is best to report, ignore and move on.

[MartensoftWorld]

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Publicado originalmente por Asternshelf24:

Get off your high horse called corporate ♥♥♥♥ please.

Solid argument, I'm glad all you have to sling is insults, Reactionaries got your tongue or something?

Okay, here's some details then.
Many battlepass players likely got their rewards from paying additionally on top of the entry fee. You can also get double xp from multiple other purchases, and XP boosts as well. That isn't "normal progression" its a premium. You can get these from the regular tree but not very many of them. The battlepass relies on objectives which is a frankly stupid way to do things, but they aren't even objectives that work in any mode, specifically you need to play several different ones, including ranked, which makes people who actually want to play ranked angry (see several threads about that on here from many disgruntled ranked players. Though that doesn't even just apply to that, there's people that leave several different casual modes because you're also forced to jump around them. Why is progression not purely based on how you play? There being a paid battlepass on top of the egregious monetization in the store is also just an insult.

[Asternshelf24]

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Publicado originalmente por Asternshelf24:

Get off your high horse called corporate ♥♥♥♥ please.

Solid argument, I'm glad all you have to sling is insults, Reactionaries got your tongue or something?

Yes, Vidmaster was hellish and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ grind but honestly at least the items you got, you could say "I earned them, this is what my hard work gave me." And not "I typed in magic card number and bought if with money." While I enjoy the game on it's own, I still think it should have rewards to earn.

Reach's system had flaws but arguably it was more rewarding that the current one 343i has. If those flaws were ironed out and implemented here we wouldn't have a problem. Honestly I rather they give us the option fo earn these items with free currency earned by playing the game or allow us to buy stuff because honestly my biggest issue with the game is the store and that seems to be something we'll have to learn to deal eith for a long while.

And yes you can put in the time but that time you spent leveling up your battle pass means nothing unless you spend money to unlock the items in your battle pass. I get your point but you act like nothing's wrong with the current system, like if you're a slave for 343i in hope that they give you your own Armour Coating or something. Stop, open your eyes. See what everyone else is seeing, honeymoon phase is long over. It's time to become aware.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Have a feeling they'll do cores to keep games armor sets based off of which game they came from. For instance, all of reaches armors being locked to their set. Those two you listed will probably be restricted to Halo 3's armor sets, and so forth.

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Hayabusa isn't just going to be thrown in, 343 doesn't have the rights to it.

Wait, who has the rights to the Hayabusa armor?

[(Obese) Legal Raven]

"Where's Hayabusa" You'll NEVER see that in halo ever again.
Well, unless they do the a tie in again. Halo 3 had it cause Nicole was in DOA 4. Sorta like a Halo VS DOA Event.

[Asternshelf24]

Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Hayabusa isn't just going to be thrown in, 343 doesn't have the rights to it.

Wait, who has the rights to the Hayabusa armor?

God himself bought the rights to Hayabusa

[Leah]

Publicado originalmente por Asternshelf24:

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Solid argument, I'm glad all you have to sling is insults, Reactionaries got your tongue or something?

Yes, Vidmaster was hellish and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ grind but honestly at least the items you got, you could say "I earned them, this is what my hard work gave me." And not "I typed in magic card number and bought if with money." While I enjoy the game on it's own, I still think it should have rewards to earn.

Reach's system had flaws but arguably it was more rewarding that the current one 343i has. If those flaws were ironed out and implemented here we wouldn't have a problem. Honestly I rather they give us the option fo earn these items with free currency earned by playing the game or allow us to buy stuff because honestly my biggest issue with the game is the store and that seems to be something we'll have to learn to deal eith for a long while.

And yes you can put in the time but that time you spent leveling up your battle pass means nothing unless you spend money to unlock the items in your battle pass. I get your point but you act like nothing's wrong with the current system, like if you're a slave for 343i in hope that they give you your own Armour Coating or something. Stop, open your eyes. See what everyone else is seeing, honeymoon phase is long over. It's time to become aware.

And again, how is this not the same for something with a battle pass?

Just because a fraction of a fraction of players buy tiers doesn't actually dissuade you from feeling rewarded from a grind, no?

Reach's system was immensely worse, without a doubt, because without even a payment goal, they didn't care to make the grind less painful, it burnt people out, and forced people to play in unfun ways, afking grifball, poorly playing firefight, It was the worse option in every way.

You can put in the time to do some of the vidmaster challenges in Halo 3, but if you don't buy ODST for 60$ and do the rest, then you've wasted all of your time, because you don't get anything out of it.

I know that on paper it sounds really bad, but it's a small 10$ fee, and you know exactly what you'll get, and get it at a steady rate, it's going straight into funding new content.

If you still have these criticisms a full year from now, then so be it, but I'd personally reccomend just having a bit of patience and let 343 iron out the kinks to have the system work the way they intended.

[Leah]

Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Have a feeling they'll do cores to keep games armor sets based off of which game they came from. For instance, all of reaches armors being locked to their set. Those two you listed will probably be restricted to Halo 3's armor sets, and so forth.

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Hayabusa isn't just going to be thrown in, 343 doesn't have the rights to it.

Wait, who has the rights to the Hayabusa armor?

Team Ninja.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Only thing I remember liking from the Hayabusa set were the shoulders lol. I'd like to get CQB shoulders as well. I believe the Emblem in Halo 3 could be added to one of the sides in that game.

[aNinjaGuardian]

Publicado originalmente por Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

Have a feeling they'll do cores to keep games armor sets based off of which game they came from. For instance, all of reaches armors being locked to their set. Those two you listed will probably be restricted to Halo 3's armor sets, and so forth.

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Hayabusa isn't just going to be thrown in, 343 doesn't have the rights to it.

Wait, who has the rights to the Hayabusa armor?

Team Ninja

Hayabusa is a video game crossover.

Ryu Hayabusa from the Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive games is a Koei Tecmo property and they have copyright over it

[Asternshelf24]

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

Publicado originalmente por Asternshelf24:

Yes, Vidmaster was hellish and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ grind but honestly at least the items you got, you could say "I earned them, this is what my hard work gave me." And not "I typed in magic card number and bought if with money." While I enjoy the game on it's own, I still think it should have rewards to earn.

Reach's system had flaws but arguably it was more rewarding that the current one 343i has. If those flaws were ironed out and implemented here we wouldn't have a problem. Honestly I rather they give us the option fo earn these items with free currency earned by playing the game or allow us to buy stuff because honestly my biggest issue with the game is the store and that seems to be something we'll have to learn to deal eith for a long while.

And yes you can put in the time but that time you spent leveling up your battle pass means nothing unless you spend money to unlock the items in your battle pass. I get your point but you act like nothing's wrong with the current system, like if you're a slave for 343i in hope that they give you your own Armour Coating or something. Stop, open your eyes. See what everyone else is seeing, honeymoon phase is long over. It's time to become aware.

And again, how is this not the same for something with a battle pass?

Just because a fraction of a fraction of players buy tiers doesn't actually dissuade you from feeling rewarded from a grind, no?

Reach's system was immensely worse, without a doubt, because without even a payment goal, they didn't care to make the grind less painful, it burnt people out, and forced people to play in unfun ways, afking grifball, poorly playing firefight, It was the worse option in every way.

You can put in the time to do some of the vidmaster challenges in Halo 3, but if you don't buy ODST for 60$ and do the rest, then you've wasted all of your time, because you don't get anything out of it.

I know that on paper it sounds really bad, but it's a small 10$ fee, and you know exactly what you'll get, and get it at a steady rate, it's going straight into funding new content.

If you still have these criticisms a full year from now, then so be it, but I'd personally reccomend just having a bit of patience and let 343 iron out the kinks to have the system work the way they intended.

I can wait but I don't like completely overlooking that these issues exist.

[Leah]

Publicado originalmente por Asternshelf24:

Publicado originalmente por Leah:

And again, how is this not the same for something with a battle pass?

Just because a fraction of a fraction of players buy tiers doesn't actually dissuade you from feeling rewarded from a grind, no?

Reach's system was immensely worse, without a doubt, because without even a payment goal, they didn't care to make the grind less painful, it burnt people out, and forced people to play in unfun ways, afking grifball, poorly playing firefight, It was the worse option in every way.

You can put in the time to do some of the vidmaster challenges in Halo 3, but if you don't buy ODST for 60$ and do the rest, then you've wasted all of your time, because you don't get anything out of it.

I know that on paper it sounds really bad, but it's a small 10$ fee, and you know exactly what you'll get, and get it at a steady rate, it's going straight into funding new content.

If you still have these criticisms a full year from now, then so be it, but I'd personally reccomend just having a bit of patience and let 343 iron out the kinks to have the system work the way they intended.

I can wait but I don't like completely overlooking that these issues exist.

You say overlooking, I say having patience, either way we have different viewpoints on the matter, no point in trying to argue for one of us or the other to change sides, just offer viewpoints.