Campaign performance issues

[JacZenn]

I have a pretty solid pc that I actually built in anticipation of this game.

Specs are a RX6700xt, a ryzen 5 3600, and 16gb of ram at 3600 speed.

When playing the multiplayer I'm sitting at around 100 fps on the medium preset, which as much as I expect a little more, is fine with me. But when I play the campaign, while I can keep indoor sections locked perfectly at 60fps, the outdoor sections struggle to hold 30. I'm really just not sure what would be causing a problem like this I've checked usage % / temps on all my parts and done all the optimization techniques there are to be found. I just feel if my pc can run things like AC:Valhalla and Forza Horizon 5 at 90+ fps on max settings I should be able to play Halo at 30fps on medium.

*Edit: Thanks everyone for the help! I had the up to date drivers in AMD software but switching to the experimental drivers on their website has me playing in 1440p Ultra locked at 60 fps.

[Wehzy]

sounds like your PC is broken or something.

I get +80 fps on a 2600, 1660 6GB.

I get even better frames than you in Forza on a worse PC.

[Rage]

update to the latest optional driver on the AMD website

[Wylie28]

Something is very wrong. Im getting 70s on low with my 1060 in open world areas. Well was. I refunded for now.

Now granted, the settings make a HUGE difference in this game. But im getting a 3060ti soon, similar performance to a 6700xt, and it gets 70s on max settings. (just gonna wait for it to play) Don't update your drivers. Get rid of the old, and then do a clean install of the new ones.

[Fax_the_Sender]

i'm not upgrading my gpu till they go back to normal prices...whenever the f that might be.

the prices are stupidly high atm...

and all the greedy f's selling used gpus for inflated prices just because the new cards are so expensive are not making the situation any better.

will be sticking with my 1060 for the foreseeable future.

[Salted Rogue]

playing on my ryzen 7 3750h gtx 1650 32gb of ram laptop and I play mostly on low and medium graphics in both multiplayer and campaign. I usually get around 45-55 fps but no crazy drops in frames that you have. could be a driver issue or something

[IvanTheRexouium]

Originally posted by ᴡ ᴇ ʜ ᴢ ʏ 'ꜰᴛᴘ:

sounds like your PC is broken or something.

I get +80 fps on a 2600, 1660 6GB.

I get even better frames than you in Forza on a worse PC.

Nope, the game is broken when it comes to optimization, not their PC.

I'm on an RX 580 8GB, which is faster than a GTX 1060 and massively better than the 1050 ti in the minimum requirements, and I fall to 18fps at 1024x768 lowest possible settings with DSR on in the open world section of the campaign, while a 1050 ti somehow manages to run almost 60fps on low settings at 1080p. Other benchmarks show this is NOT a hardware issue as it happens to literally everyone.

Also, disable your min fps (dsr) and watch your framerate get reduced by 60% as your gpu fails to run your native resolution at your target framerate.

Forza Horizon 5 is actually optimized though and is the same as...literally every other game on Steam, this is EXCLUSIVELY an issue with Halo Infinite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCj2wEi80zA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLrRdU5f-M

https://youtu.be/r2P_MnmfPhs

[Wylie28]

Originally posted by IvanTheWolf:

Originally posted by ᴡ ᴇ ʜ ᴢ ʏ 'ꜰᴛᴘ:

sounds like your PC is broken or something.

I get +80 fps on a 2600, 1660 6GB.

I get even better frames than you in Forza on a worse PC.

Nope, the game is broken when it comes to optimization, not their PC.

I'm on an RX 580 8GB, which is faster than a GTX 1060 and massively better than the 1050 ti in the minimum requirements, and I fall to 18fps at 1024x768 lowest possible settings with DSR on in the open world section of the campaign, while a 1050 ti somehow manages to run almost 60fps on low settings at 1080p. Other benchmarks show this is NOT a hardware issue as it happens to literally everyone.

Also, disable your min fps (dsr) and watch your framerate get reduced by 60% as your gpu fails to run your native resolution at your target framerate.

Forza Horizon 5 is actually optimized though and is the same as...literally every other game on Steam, this is EXCLUSIVELY an issue with Halo Infinite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCj2wEi80zA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLrRdU5f-M

https://youtu.be/r2P_MnmfPhs

It doesn't sound like an optimization issue. It just sounds like AMD cards and driver issues. Optimization is reducing any given algorithms work, while still achieving the same result. Hardware not executing code when its freed up and the code itself isn't bottlenecking (IE, not made to use more than 1 core) does not fall under "optimization" but is more like a bug. No optimization will fix this problem, the problem is the GPU is refusing to do work for some reason. You can optimize all you want but no performance will be gained from it because the problem isn't the lack of effeciancy in the code the code is NOT BEING RAN. If you don't do any steps at all, making the steps take less time doesn't do much at all does it? This is a driver/api interface issue.

[Rage]

Originally posted by IvanTheWolf:

Originally posted by ᴡ ᴇ ʜ ᴢ ʏ 'ꜰᴛᴘ:

sounds like your PC is broken or something.

I get +80 fps on a 2600, 1660 6GB.

I get even better frames than you in Forza on a worse PC.

Nope, the game is broken when it comes to optimization, not their PC.

I'm on an RX 580 8GB, which is faster than a GTX 1060 and massively better than the 1050 ti in the minimum requirements, and I fall to 18fps at 1024x768 lowest possible settings with DSR on in the open world section of the campaign, while a 1050 ti somehow manages to run almost 60fps on low settings at 1080p. Other benchmarks show this is NOT a hardware issue as it happens to literally everyone.

Also, disable your min fps (dsr) and watch your framerate get reduced by 60% as your gpu fails to run your native resolution at your target framerate.

Forza Horizon 5 is actually optimized though and is the same as...literally every other game on Steam, this is EXCLUSIVELY an issue with Halo Infinite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCj2wEi80zA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLrRdU5f-M

https://youtu.be/r2P_MnmfPhs

Ivan, you installed the 21.12.1 optional drivers right? I don't remember if I mentioned this before but my guide might be worth a shot.
Something that's an even longer shot would be enabling Resizeable Bar (PCIE feature that you may need a bios update for) and modding your drivers to force enable it.
I managed to help a friend of mine hold 30fps in campaign on a 4gb rx 480 and a ryzen 5 2600

[Rage]

Originally posted by Wylie28:

Originally posted by IvanTheWolf:

Nope, the game is broken when it comes to optimization, not their PC.

I'm on an RX 580 8GB, which is faster than a GTX 1060 and massively better than the 1050 ti in the minimum requirements, and I fall to 18fps at 1024x768 lowest possible settings with DSR on in the open world section of the campaign, while a 1050 ti somehow manages to run almost 60fps on low settings at 1080p. Other benchmarks show this is NOT a hardware issue as it happens to literally everyone.

Also, disable your min fps (dsr) and watch your framerate get reduced by 60% as your gpu fails to run your native resolution at your target framerate.

Forza Horizon 5 is actually optimized though and is the same as...literally every other game on Steam, this is EXCLUSIVELY an issue with Halo Infinite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCj2wEi80zA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLrRdU5f-M

https://youtu.be/r2P_MnmfPhs

It doesn't sound like an optimization issue. It just sounds like AMD cards and driver issues. Optimization is reducing any given algorithms work, while still achieving the same result. Hardware not executing code when its freed up and the code itself isn't bottlenecking (IE, not made to use more than 1 core) does not fall under "optimization" but is more like a bug. No optimization will fix this problem, the problem is the GPU is refusing to do work for some reason. You can optimize all you want but no performance will be gained from it because the problem isn't the lack of effeciancy in the code the code is NOT BEING RAN. If you don't do any steps at all, making the steps take less time doesn't do much at all does it? This is a driver/api interface issue.

Sadly I'm inclined to agree that this is an AMD driver issue, there is no reason why it should run so bad when two of the target platforms run GCN AMD graphics (xbox one and xbox one x) apart from AMD cocking up their optimizations spectacularly.
At least PS4 ports don't have this issue.

[Vais Varg O Røthh]

its strange the multiplayer works smooth with ultra but campaign stutters on low...

[Shull]

I see you got your issue fixed but if other people view this thread later. Ingame settings that helped many people, change min and max fps to 60 and disable all UI/HUD effects. Ofc make sure the ultra texture dlc is disabled. Don't ask me why they work im not a programmer they just do.

[Rage]

I feel bad for pushing my guide all the time but this is how I managed to beat the campaign and hold 30 fps through most of it, although I had to restart the game fairly often when the fps would start dipping randomly. Thank god for SSDs
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2681108554

[Shull]

Originally posted by Rage:

I feel bad for pushing my guide all the time but this is how I managed to beat the campaign and hold 30 fps through most of it, although I had to restart the game fairly often when the fps would start dipping randomly. Thank god for SSDs
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2681108554

Don't feel bad for trying to help other gamers. There are plenty of people with low end systems trying to get even above 10 fps and still wanting to play. And your video might help them. Post it in the guide section if you already haven't.

[IvanTheRexouium]

Originally posted by Rage:

Originally posted by Wylie28:

It doesn't sound like an optimization issue. It just sounds like AMD cards and driver issues. Optimization is reducing any given algorithms work, while still achieving the same result. Hardware not executing code when its freed up and the code itself isn't bottlenecking (IE, not made to use more than 1 core) does not fall under "optimization" but is more like a bug. No optimization will fix this problem, the problem is the GPU is refusing to do work for some reason. You can optimize all you want but no performance will be gained from it because the problem isn't the lack of effeciancy in the code the code is NOT BEING RAN. If you don't do any steps at all, making the steps take less time doesn't do much at all does it? This is a driver/api interface issue.

Sadly I'm inclined to agree that this is an AMD driver issue, there is no reason why it should run so bad when two of the target platforms run GCN AMD graphics (xbox one and xbox one x) apart from AMD cocking up their optimizations spectacularly.
At least PS4 ports don't have this issue.

RTX 3090s fall below 60fps at 4k at times, along with GTX 1080s falling to 40fps at 1080p without DRS and RTX 2070 supers performing similarly at 1440p.

But that doesn't mean it's not also a driver issue making it worse, as Polaris based gpus are suffering much worse than others for some reason, while Nvidia's Pascal gpus are at least acceptable while still bad.

I've noticed with all gpus though other than my old 1050 ti, that the power consumption just tanks to less than 50% of what it was when in the open world, as if the gpu is just trying to idle or something though usage still shows as "100%" locked in the open world, which does indicate some strange behavior on the driver level but again this would be Nvidia and AMD both which just feels kind of unlikely they'd both have issues.

I just don't think it can be both certain Nvidia gpus just having driver issues as well as all pre-RDNA2 AMD gpus, I was able to test with an Nvidia A4000 workstation gpu for a bit recently, which is equivalent to an RTX 2080, and I couldn't even reach 60fps at all at 4k in the campaign without using DRS and falling to what looked like 1080p

All gpus should be getting better performance than they are, but AMD's are much worse though as you said, and this is specifically a Halo Infinite issue as well.

If there are driver issues on AMD gpus and that's all the problem is, I'm kind of surprised that even GTX 1080 tis are having issues reaching 1080p/60 ultra settings

Originally posted by Rage:

Originally posted by IvanTheWolf:

Nope, the game is broken when it comes to optimization, not their PC.

I'm on an RX 580 8GB, which is faster than a GTX 1060 and massively better than the 1050 ti in the minimum requirements, and I fall to 18fps at 1024x768 lowest possible settings with DSR on in the open world section of the campaign, while a 1050 ti somehow manages to run almost 60fps on low settings at 1080p. Other benchmarks show this is NOT a hardware issue as it happens to literally everyone.

Also, disable your min fps (dsr) and watch your framerate get reduced by 60% as your gpu fails to run your native resolution at your target framerate.

Forza Horizon 5 is actually optimized though and is the same as...literally every other game on Steam, this is EXCLUSIVELY an issue with Halo Infinite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCj2wEi80zA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLrRdU5f-M

https://youtu.be/r2P_MnmfPhs

Ivan, you installed the 21.12.1 optional drivers right? I don't remember if I mentioned this before but my guide might be worth a shot.
Something that's an even longer shot would be enabling Resizeable Bar (PCIE feature that you may need a bios update for) and modding your drivers to force enable it.
I managed to help a friend of mine hold 30fps in campaign on a 4gb rx 480 and a ryzen 5 2600

I'm on the latest possible driver, didn't try the Nimez modded drivers that you mentioned before though, and my motherboard I don't think supports resizeable BAR (Asrock Z370M Pro4)

[IvanTheRexouium]

Originally posted by Fullonian:

I see you got your issue fixed but if other people view this thread later. Ingame settings that helped many people, change min and max fps to 60 and disable all UI/HUD effects. Ofc make sure the ultra texture dlc is disabled. Don't ask me why they work im not a programmer they just do.

As far as I know, the reason this works for some people is disabling the UHD textures drops the vram usage by a lot, especially on high/ultra quality, setting min/max fps to 60 will allow the game to drop the resolution to as low as 25% of what it's set to.

As for UI effects, I honestly have no idea why that tanks framerate on some gpus