Preorder bonus pls?

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117 also needs it.

[Lonex[GER]]

it looks like there is nothing...

[Psychedelic Adventurer]

It's really weird seeing people cry out for pre-order bonuses. Such things are blatantly anti-consumer. Let's keep our games' relatively complete thanks.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

We did not even get items for Tf2 when MCC was added and the community workshop already has Halo themed items.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:

It's really weird seeing people cry out for pre-order bonuses. Such things are blatantly anti-consumer. Let's keep our games' relatively complete thanks.

Double Contrarian here, explain how it is anti-consumer without sounding like a /v/edditor.
I will give you a lead because I doubt you are intelligent enough:
[>Meme Arrow] You should not be given incentives to get things you do not know before hand if they will be any good.

Counterpoint: Pre-order bonuses reward long time fans and people who have faith in the project, it is literally not worse than crowd funded games because at least you know the game is ready to be published unlike crowfunding "when it is done" approach.

If anything pre-order bonuses should be a standard BUT you should be able to keep them in case you refund the game. The way things are, there is no real reason as to why anyone should buy a new release on Steam, PC games drop to a whooping 40% off a month or so after release, I have honestly do not remember when was the last time I bought a game at full price on Steam and bear in mind the PC environment is flexible in many ways so developers should give early buyers incentives for their own sake and reward people who paid full price.

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Originally posted by Knud den Store:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:

It's really weird seeing people cry out for pre-order bonuses. Such things are blatantly anti-consumer. Let's keep our games' relatively complete thanks.

Double Contrarian here, explain how it is anti-consumer without sounding like a /v/edditor.
I will give you a lead because I doubt you are intelligent enough:
[>Meme Arrow] You should not be given incentives to get things you do not know before hand if they will be any good.

Counterpoint: Pre-order bonuses reward long time fans and people who have faith in the project, it is literally not worse than crowd funded games because at least you know the game is ready to be published unlike crowfunding "when it is done" approach.

If anything pre-order bonuses should be a standard BUT you should be able to keep them in case you refund the game. The way things are, there is no real reason as to why anyone should buy a new release on Steam, PC games drop to a whooping 40% off a month or so after release, I have honestly do not remember when was the last time I bought a game at full price on Steam and bear in mind the PC environment is flexible in many ways so developers should give early buyers incentives for their own sake and reward people who paid full price.

“reward people who paid full price”
Can’t agree with you more.

[Psychedelic Adventurer]

Originally posted by Knud den Store:

Counterpoint: Pre-order bonuses reward long time fans and people who have faith in the project, it is literally not worse than crowd funded games because at least you know the game is ready to be published unlike crowfunding "when it is done" approach.

If anything pre-order bonuses should be a standard BUT you should be able to keep them in case you refund the game. The way things are, there is no real reason as to why anyone should buy a new release on Steam, PC games drop to a whooping 40% off a month or so after release, I have honestly do not remember when was the last time I bought a game at full price on Steam and bear in mind the PC environment is flexible in many ways so developers should give early buyers incentives for their own sake and reward people who paid full price.

Disregarding all the inane neckbeard monologuing.

You are buying full price because you want to experience the game when it is released. When it is 'fresh out of the oven' so to speak. As it's exposure decreases, it becomes less valuble. Thus, a game will usually present discounts to make said game more palatable. Simple economics.

Pre-order bonuses allow publishers to double dip into the players wallets by removing content from the game, and selling it back to you as an incentive. Something to say "look at me, look at me. I'm a good consumer". You have tangible examples of this system actually having damaging effects on balancing of singleplayer games (Praxis cards in Deus ex) and MP games (BF1 with the pre-order pistol being the best in the game).

You defending the indefensible, and the only reason you haven't got your wish is because it was phased out in favour of a much more profitable system which allowed further player retention: the battlepass.

I don't even know why you're setting yourself up on the "because it supports the project" hill when you didn't even need to. As if countless indie projects haven't blown up in the faces of naive backers with no sense whatsoever.

Imagine thinking this way...

[Wehzi]

It feels like only a few years ago, pre-order bonuses were still taboo. Now, see how quickly companies have made weak-minded people actually want these practices.

It's actually quite impressive.

Originally posted by Knud den Store:

Double Contrarian here, explain how it is anti-consumer without sounding like a /v/edditor.
I will give you a lead because I doubt you are intelligent enough:

Perfect example. Look at how aggressive this thing is towards a relatively middle of the road comment. How deeply invested it is in showing that "i'm a good boi, I eat my greens at dinner and buy my triple-A games at full price on release day. Here's my golden chicken tendie to show it".

Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:

You have tangible examples of this system actually having damaging effects on balancing of singleplayer games (Praxis cards in Deus ex)

Low key, great example. I remember that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the balancing in that game so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ much.