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Sea Sharp Nov 14, 2020 @ 2:36pm
Accents...
Great game, but please hire a native English speaker for the voices next time, it's really painful to listen to.
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Kunovega Nov 14, 2020 @ 2:49pm 
That's half the charm of the game is the accents. This is also a very low budget indy game, the main voice actor is also the lead developer.

Honestly I doubt I'd have enjoyed the game half as much if they used someone without an accent, the voice acting and accents are what really takes this game from just good to excellent.

Get out of you bubble and live a little, the world is filled with more than just native English speakers.
Tannhauser Nov 14, 2020 @ 3:24pm 
Which "native English" accent would you prefer? Bronx? Valley Girl? A thick Southern drawl? Cockney? Scottish? Irish?
Sea Sharp Nov 15, 2020 @ 1:45am 
Originally posted by Tannhauser:
Which "native English" accent would you prefer? Bronx? Valley Girl? A thick Southern drawl? Cockney? Scottish? Irish?

Whatever, French is just the worst possible one ;)
null Nov 15, 2020 @ 9:19am 
I loved it, it's part of the charm. Hope the dev ignores this stupid suggestion.
Sea Sharp Nov 15, 2020 @ 9:47am 
"Lol you are so stupid for pointing out an obvious flaw LMAO"
Kunovega Nov 15, 2020 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by Sodium:
Originally posted by Tannhauser:
Which "native English" accent would you prefer? Bronx? Valley Girl? A thick Southern drawl? Cockney? Scottish? Irish?

Whatever, French is just the worst possible one ;)

Now it's obvious that you are just a troll.
Sea Sharp Nov 15, 2020 @ 12:47pm 
French is my first language, i would probably not have done better, but yeah, we suck at pronouncing English. Also he really tries really hard to give a good performance, which makes it much worse, it's not even funny, just embarrassing.
Kunovega Nov 15, 2020 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Sodium:
French is my first language, i would probably not have done better, but yeah, we suck at pronouncing English. Also he really tries really hard to give a good performance, which makes it much worse, it's not even funny, just embarrassing.

I'm a native English speaker and I can tell you right now that his pronunciation is quite good, in fact it's better than a lot of poorly educated native English speakers. It's not embarrassing at all, and if you think it is, it's you that has a lack of experience with English.

On top of that he's not playing a human anyway, he's narrating an artificial intelligence, a computer generated "game" character, it could have been much worse and still fit the character.

jemYZX Nov 15, 2020 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Kunovega:
Originally posted by Sodium:
French is my first language, i would probably not have done better, but yeah, we suck at pronouncing English. Also he really tries really hard to give a good performance, which makes it much worse, it's not even funny, just embarrassing.

I'm a native English speaker and I can tell you right now that his pronunciation is quite good, in fact it's better than a lot of poorly educated native English speakers. It's not embarrassing at all, and if you think it is, it's you that has a lack of experience with English.

On top of that he's not playing a human anyway, he's narrating an artificial intelligence, a computer generated "game" character, it could have been much worse and still fit the character.

I think the players are thinking a dub for each language for certain countries so it isn't just English Dubbed.

Though every update counts to the next with.. I am waiting on those black lines to go away though I guess the charm will stay there for the rest of the not game.


Let there be a wait for a new update.
Sea Sharp Nov 16, 2020 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by Kunovega:
I'm a native English speaker and I can tell you right now that his pronunciation is quite good, in fact it's better than a lot of poorly educated native English speakers. It's not embarrassing at all, and if you think it is, it's you that has a lack of experience with English.

Nope.
Smith Nov 16, 2020 @ 7:55am 
I like the accent.
Kunovega Nov 16, 2020 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by Sodium:
Originally posted by Kunovega:
I'm a native English speaker and I can tell you right now that his pronunciation is quite good, in fact it's better than a lot of poorly educated native English speakers. It's not embarrassing at all, and if you think it is, it's you that has a lack of experience with English.

Nope.

Since you aren't a native English speaker your opinion of what sounds like correct pronunciation isn't valid anyway.
jemYZX Nov 16, 2020 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by Smith:
I like the accent.
I like the accent in the English Dub. Though there aren't any other version dubs which is probably the actual argument that commenters are trying to say.
Last edited by jemYZX; Nov 16, 2020 @ 9:00pm
Sea Sharp Nov 17, 2020 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Kunovega:
Since you aren't a native English speaker your opinion of what sounds like correct pronunciation isn't valid anyway.

Been speaking germanic languages since i was 4 and fluent in English for over 20 years. The dub sucks and i don't understand how you can defend it.
Kunovega Nov 17, 2020 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Sodium:
Originally posted by Kunovega:
Since you aren't a native English speaker your opinion of what sounds like correct pronunciation isn't valid anyway.

Been speaking germanic languages since i was 4 and fluent in English for over 20 years. The dub sucks and i don't understand how you can defend it.

Because for one thing you aren't even using the word dub correctly, so right off the bat your logic process is suspect.

And just because you can speak English doesn't make you any more capable of judging proper English pronunciation. I've known 100's of people who speak English but never lose their original accents and they are all typically terrible at judging correct pronunciation; they all seem to think the other non-native English speakers are wrong, when all of them (including them) are wrong)

Even among native English speakers the variety of accents is massive, there's half a dozen just when comparing British derivatives and another set of variety from American derivatives. What you learn from other sources is irrelevant unless you are trying to compare a specific English accent with what you believe is correct.

Heck I can tell the difference just from typing between an American and an Indian or a Brazilian, they place emphasis on different areas of phrasing and certain words are more common due to the time period of when the language was introduced to their regions.

Your experience is colored by whoever taught you English, but no matter how many years you claim to be fluent, it's still single sourced and non-native.

As an American born in the NE and then having moved to every region of the US, plus traveled to numerous other countries, all I can say is that his accent in-game (which is not a dub...) sounded to me like the best French-Canadian pronunciations that I would expect from a native Canadian who learns both French and English. I was actually surprised he's native to France and not Canada. Native French tend to have a thicker more elaborate draw with a more nasal rasp.

In fact you could lie to me and tell me he was born in New Orleans and I might believe it, because let me tell you his pronunciation is better than many native English speakers from the south with a creole accent.

At the end of the day the game only has the one voice track (dubs are replacement tracks... there is no dub for this game...) and the voices chosen are to represent specific characters. Therefore whatever they sound like is what they are supposed to sound like anyway.

You seem to be judging this as if it's a dub (a replacement track). With a dub you judge if the replacement track fulfills the delivery of the original tracks performance adequately enough to fit the character in the game.

Since the game isn't dubbed your entire argument is futile anyway, whatever was chosen as the original voice and delivery is the way it's meant to be, that is the character. Any other dubs (if they are ever created) would need to match this style as best they can in the dubbed language, or the dubs would be poor.

So either way you are simply wrong. Since it's not a dub there's no original to compare it with to claim that the dub is inferior to. And in claiming that it's a bad English pronunciation you haven't bothered (despite being asked) to even identify what you are comparing it with: what version of an English accent do you think he's trying to do? Or what version do you think should have been done?

Since you haven't even bothered to be clear about the difference it's difficult to even correct you, you're wrong either way but for different reasons.

It can't be a bad dub since there is no dub and there's no original to compare it with.

And whether you like the pronunciation is purely your own opinion, but since you haven't bothered to even identify what accent or style you think would have been better, you just look like you are hiding behind your own bias (and lack of experience).

Across both games (this and the original) the character of "Game" is played by the same person in both, it's the voice chosen to represent that character and it's played with a thick French-English accent that pronounces words the same as most French-Canadians and better than many southern Creole.

There's far worse choices that could have been made, you never even bothered to suggest what accent you would have preferred (even when someone asked you).

The fact that you have spoken English for 20 years doesn't mean you are any better at it than anyone else. In fact, let's play that game: You think it matters how long someone's been speaking a language? Well, I've been speaking English for 50 years, and I've interacted with people from dozens of different countries around the world who speak English with endless variations and accents. Which of us has more experience with English and it's variations?

I won't even pretend to tell you how to correctly pronounce French, German, Spanish or Russian words, but I could swear at you in all 4 languages.

Bottom line, what are you even comparing it with? That's a question you have ignored repeatedly. It's particularly relevant when you try to call it a dub, because that implies you are comparing it to "the original track" and claiming that the dub is worse than the original...

Well, it is the original, so you sound even more daft than your original post when you don't even use words correctly.
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