CIA Useless??

[Fizxx]

Stealth is not so usable in this game? it is easier to wipe out insurgents with swat or rangers in all missions, then try to play stealthy with cia guys

[GUNSOFPATRIOT2]

there are some missions the cia is better, but for most rangers are the best for me atleast

[Stealth]

Ya I find CIA to be very niche. 95% of the time, rangers are best. Still nice to have options though so it's ok I suppose.

[BossStompTV]

It's supposed to be fun. It's not a competition.

[St.Black_Label💎]

My mod may Buff your CIA unit, try it
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3427826463

[seashell]

cia needs more manpower
i just don't consider taking cia if the map takes more than 4 people
and the map needs more slots.

it's not interesting to send superhumans to fight a horde of enemies

sending a horde of normal people to fight a horde of enemies is more interesting

[Twistking]

maybe give CIA some irregulars... similar to SWAT militia perhaps...

[Rocksteady]

CIA is the strongest squad on most maps without restricted zones Undercover are basically mobile 360 degree spy cameras that can also shoot.

[Defective Soul]

I sorta disagree, they do short on manpower, but you can easly utilize nearly any weaponary in game as well as having VVS wich if not magazine size - will be one of the best weapons of whole game
They are just not direct force but an sneaky killing one, MP7 is insanely quiet and deadly in compare to MP5SD as well as shorter, CIA is litheraly made for quiet work + you can litheraly use undercover troops as "gopro on legs"

[Ace]

Originally posted by Fizxx:

Stealth is not so usable in this game? it is easier to wipe out insurgents with swat or rangers in all missions, then try to play stealthy with cia guys

CIA is a mixed bag in my opinion. In Co-op, they can be INVALUABLE. Because you can have the CIA act as a "free vision" scout of the map, then let another more aggressive team (Rangers, Nowhereski) move in and utilize that vision and information, then work the lanes with your high accuracy units, and pincer with the big boys by covering doors and windows with your CQC units.

In single player, it's much more methodical, and slow, and risky because you can't bring in the big guns to bail yourself out. And if you REALLY don't care, you can get much of the same information by just throwing yourself at the map recklessly and just remembering what was where, since the enemy layouts stay the same.

Realistically, it's more of a "roleplay" choice. Any squad can do any mission, so think of it kind of like a difficulty slider. Rangers is easy, Nowhereski is medium, and CIA is "hard". Rangers are the hammer that can just smash and go. Nowhereski is throwing numbers at a problem until it goes away, it's a "Blot out the sky with your arrows" approach. CIA is a scalpel where you make very careful, incisions with high risk, but there's no feeling like beating a map where you're wildly outnumbered, outgunned, using two guys, some pistols, and your brain.

[oh no]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1239080/discussions/0/783166243925416400/

[axios2006]

Originally posted by Ace:

Originally posted by Fizxx:

Stealth is not so usable in this game? it is easier to wipe out insurgents with swat or rangers in all missions, then try to play stealthy with cia guys

CIA is a mixed bag in my opinion. In Co-op, they can be INVALUABLE. Because you can have the CIA act as a "free vision" scout of the map, then let another more aggressive team (Rangers, Nowhereski) move in and utilize that vision and information, then work the lanes with your high accuracy units, and pincer with the big boys by covering doors and windows with your CQC units.

In single player, it's much more methodical, and slow, and risky because you can't bring in the big guns to bail yourself out. And if you REALLY don't care, you can get much of the same information by just throwing yourself at the map recklessly and just remembering what was where, since the enemy layouts stay the same.

Realistically, it's more of a "roleplay" choice. Any squad can do any mission, so think of it kind of like a difficulty slider. Rangers is easy, Nowhereski is medium, and CIA is "hard". Rangers are the hammer that can just smash and go. Nowhereski is throwing numbers at a problem until it goes away, it's a "Blot out the sky with your arrows" approach. CIA is a scalpel where you make very careful, incisions with high risk, but there's no feeling like beating a map where you're wildly outnumbered, outgunned, using two guys, some pistols, and your brain.

I couldn't have found better words to express the concept.

[Mad_Rat]

I would add that there are missions really suitable for CIA.

Pasha Market from Indian Country for example. For rangers you have to push through civilian and enemy filled area for a small time limit. For CIA you could just walk to your guy, defend him from attackers and then carefully plan ouy your escape.

Large maps with isolated areas with enemies can be cleared with CIA really easy. But you have to be careful and methodical, planning every move.

Watch the video from

Originally posted by lol:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1239080/discussions/0/783166243925416400/

this link, it's relly illuminatiing.