No Crouching and shooting?

[TB Suzuka]

Title above, I am curious why we cannot do this especially when static and trying to clear a room without entering it.

[كريس]

why is it needed?

[Pup]

Originally posted by كريس:

why is it needed?

Why is crouching needed at all? If you're gonna let us crouch, let us shoot while crouched as well. Otherwise it's literally just trading out one guy shooting for the guy behind him shooting instead, rather than doubling the firepower by letting them both shoot.

[كريس]

Originally posted by Burrito:

Originally posted by كريس:

why is it needed?

Why is crouching needed at all? If you're gonna let us crouch, let us shoot while crouched as well. Otherwise it's literally just trading out one guy shooting for the guy behind him shooting instead, rather than doubling the firepower by letting them both shoot.

Good question. Don't really see the point of crouching.

[Galis]

Originally posted by كريس:

why is it needed?

Because it's one of the most natural things ever to do during firefights. Depending on the situation you won't always stand high and proud even during room clearing, especially when you know threat is inside. I would keep crouching but allow the operatives to use their weapons while doing so. And on top of crouching a really nice thing would be to add peeking from behind corners for slower entries. It'd be especially useful for more quiet entries rather than deliberate, guns-blazing ones.

[ϺEƳEƦ]

Crouching let's you get by window's without exposing yourself to fire from inside the building. It also allows for the operator who is breaching to be out of the line of fire of the operator who is covering him during an entry. Those really are the only solid uses at the moment. I agree that not being able to engage a target while crouched makes no sense. It would be really nice if they add it eventually.

[كريس]

Originally posted by Anatoly:

Originally posted by كريس:

why is it needed?

Because it's one of the most natural things ever to do during firefights. Depending on the situation you won't always stand high and proud even during room clearing, especially when you know threat is inside. I would keep crouching but allow the operatives to use their weapons while doing so. And on top of crouching a really nice thing would be to add peeking from behind corners for slower entries. It'd be especially useful for more quiet entries rather than deliberate, guns-blazing ones.

Really? How many fire fights have you been in at this range?

[كريس]

Being crouched also means you cannot move (at least not if you want your body to be in a stable position to fire from).

[Pup]

Originally posted by كريس:

Being crouched also means you cannot move (at least not if you want your body to be in a stable position to fire from).

So you simply make it so they don't fire while moving if crouched, literally nothing you have said so far is an actual reason to not make firing while crouched a thing.

[BlackjackGT]

I don't see the harm in asking about it. :) Though I'm not sure how they can visually model crouching or going prone in a a strictly top-down perspective (as opposed to isometric, or side-scrolling as in DK:AS where you can more readily see your character model crouching/prone).

The game does model shooting behind cover (and I think the assumption is you're sort of crouching behind it though I don't visually see that).

[Pup]

Originally posted by BlackjackGT:

I don't see the harm in asking about it. :) Though I'm not sure how they can visually model crouching or going prone in a a strictly top-down perspective (as opposed to isometric, or side-scrolling as in DK:AS where you can more readily see your character model crouching/prone).

The game does model shooting behind cover (and I think the assumption is you're sort of crouching behind it though I don't visually see that).

The problem isn't modeling crouching, it's already in the game. It's just the fact that they don't shoot while crouched

[ϺEƳEƦ]

Shooting while crouched, and moving while crouched and shooting are two different mechanic requests in my opinion. All classes with all weapons should be able to engage a target while crouched and stationary. As for move crouch shooting, I feel like if that is added, it should be only with certain weapons and or classes of trooper. Pistols, SMGs, and SBRs for example, would be able to, but not the other weapons.

[Pup]

Originally posted by ϺEƳEƦ:

Shooting while crouched, and moving while crouched and shooting are two different mechanic requests in my opinion. All classes with all weapons should be able to engage a target while crouched and stationary. As for move crouch shooting, I feel like if that is added, it should be only with certain weapons and or classes of trooper. Pistols, SMGs, and SBRs for example, would be able to, but not the other weapons.

I'd be happy with just having stationary crouch shooting, most of the time if I'm telling a guy to crouch he's stationary anyway lol

[ϺEƳEƦ]

Originally posted by Burrito:

Originally posted by ϺEƳEƦ:

Shooting while crouched, and moving while crouched and shooting are two different mechanic requests in my opinion. All classes with all weapons should be able to engage a target while crouched and stationary. As for move crouch shooting, I feel like if that is added, it should be only with certain weapons and or classes of trooper. Pistols, SMGs, and SBRs for example, would be able to, but not the other weapons.

I'd be happy with just having stationary crouch shooting, most of the time if I'm telling a guy to crouch he's stationary anyway lol

As would I. I'm just saying if they were going to add moving while shooting, they should use it as a feature to distinguish a certain class or squad type. I wouldnt want it to be doable with every operator and weapon type

[Pup]

Originally posted by ϺEƳEƦ:

Originally posted by Burrito:

I'd be happy with just having stationary crouch shooting, most of the time if I'm telling a guy to crouch he's stationary anyway lol

As would I. I'm just saying if they were going to add moving while shooting, they should use it as a feature to distinguish a certain class or squad type. I wouldnt want it to be doable with every operator and weapon type

Oh come on now, you know you wanna have a full squad of machine gunners crouch walk everywhere while firing off their M249's

[ϺEƳEƦ]

I mean....we do it in FPS games all the time....so why shouldnt i damn it