It's hard to enjoy this game sometimes

[cAPSLOCK]

Some people are just so far above me in terms of skill it's unreal. What am I supposed to do against the guy flying around noscoping everyone from across the map?He gets ~40 kills and everyone else gets around 8 or so. I can't 'git gud' against this. I will NEVER be that good.

[Danyaell]

Messaggio originale di meh:

Messaggio originale di Danyaell:

No fanboyism, just tired of people in Steam Forums that don't play the game, don't like it and still find time to come here complain about it and wish it was dead.

So, you're just here in a fanboy capacity?

Is that your conclusion after reading what I said? LOL

[Duchess of Soles]

Messaggio originale di Rivers:

People here going real defensive over a game that lost 50% of its playerbase in 2 weeks. Even the fanboys know the ship is sinking and titanfall is a ♥♥♥♥ game. Didnt help they didnt fix any problems the first one had either.

Just FYI, even prior to the Steam release it didn't take long to find games.

I get it though, you're being negative because you dislike things about the game and seek to draw people to your way of seeing things. The fact of the matter is, you're still on these forums, so you still have some interest in the game. Titanfall 2 devs aren't reading this, so you're only speaking to the community that's on Steam, which is only a fraction of the actual player base.

I suppose my point here is... Just /saying/ something is dying or a sinking ship, doesn't make it true. Yes the initial interest from launch shaved off (it happens to a lot of games), mech games are niche to begin with and not everyone's into them or don't expect the difficulty curve in PvP.

Thing is, the game will continue to be alive for years to come because people, like myself, enjoy playing it. Will it live forever? Hell no. But nothing lives forever; it's not going to die tomorrow, nor the next week, nor the following month, nor by the end of the year.

Just some food for thought. I'm by no means saying the game doesn't have it's share of flaws, but it's far from unplayable/bad save for some connection bugs folk have been getting. If it was 100% awful, it wouldn't still have 11k+ active players on peak. That's more than a lot of games these days.

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As for OP, honestly, it feels that way sometimes. I got bent over hard in my last game sessions, but keep trying, and change up your loadouts; approach things differently. Instead of rushing all the time, maybe take the 'sit back and analyze' pace as some Snipers do. I've found a lot of high G players are used to faster paces, so if I play around that or otherwise bait them, I've managed to come out on top using that method.

It's really hard at first, that's for damn sure, but it's far from impossible. Practice in Frontier for general aiming and trying out weapons to see which guns feel the best and at what pace, it will allow for more breathing room to get a feel for general use, then you can hop into PvP and learn how to apply it to that pace of gameplay, but you'll still be familiar with it (e.g. When to reload, when to best use your kit, etc.)

There will always be someone better though, even at G100. It's just the definition of Player VS Player.

[synik]

Messaggio originale di meh:

Messaggio originale di LaxusDreyar:

Sad that they aren't asking for tips/help, but rather only complaining.

What was sad is that my valid criticism was met with strawman responses attempting to devalue my argument. This is common among fanboy circles, which, unfortunately, is the case on Steam forums.

Meh, sounded like whining to me. Honestly didn't take long to get used the movement and gunplay.

Do I get owned? Sure. I occasionally run into the sweatlords who just zerg our spawn and constantly kill us and keep 4-6 titans up at any given time. DId I get frustrated? For sure! Who the heck thinks its fun to be stomped so hard you were basically a grunt on the field. But I enjoyed the game enough to want to get better at it. I still throw out the occasional "What, how was that a headshot?!" but I just buckle down and get back into it. I guess I enjoy the game that much and am willing to admit to myself that ♥♥♥♥ happens sometimes and there will always be someone better than me.

[poppindancers]

what a shame.

[LaxusDreyar]

Messaggio originale di meh:

Messaggio originale di LaxusDreyar:

Sad that they aren't asking for tips/help, but rather only complaining.

What was sad is that my valid criticism was met with strawman responses attempting to devalue my argument. This is common among fanboy circles, which, unfortunately, is the case on Steam forums.

I can't speak for the claims you made on hitboxes, as I have no proof of either case. You could be right there. However, finding gunplay defective because it is recommended early on not to scope all the time(so that you are always in motion), that is something invalid, at least for me. I think I speak for the majority on this, newbies will ADS a lot more than required. Once you get experience, you will obviously track pilots more accurately, you'll position better making ADS favourable.

You will find fanboys for sure, in almost every forum. But you'll also find people who regret their purchases, for whatever reason, be it not playing well or not finding it fun. Then they come over to forums bashing the game and other stuff. You can definitely thumb the game down in the review section, but if you give up after very few hours, where it clearly takes some practice to get better, then that isn't just fair. It goes for OP too, he has accepted his fate that he won't get better, ever.

If you find the game defective per your opinion, then it was just a bad purchase unfortunately, nothing can be done here. You can review the game and let others know, if many agree with you, the review will be the most favoured. You can try more and hope to improve/enjoy, or simply move on.

[Smug Kot]

The game its about speed so obviously SMGs, shotguns and AR are going to be king but that isnt a bad thing, because its mostly about skill. Someone with insane aim will reck everyone with a Kraber or really any weapon at that point of skills.

So its really frustrasting for someone like me who has to use training wheels AKA Smgs/shotguns to just hable to do something and even like that getting so so scores. Alas theres no matchmaking.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Messaggio originale di Smug Kot:

The game its about speed so obviously SMGs, shotguns and AR are .

No those things are top tier becus the game has a low ttk, so a slow projectile that instantly kills people isnt super strong compared to a rapid fire hitscan that kills in 2-3 hits.

If you play a "fast paced game" that have higher ttk like quake/tribes/unreal heck even something like teamfortress 2 spike dmg weapons become much more potent.

Rocket and rail in quake are 70% of the meta becus while they kill in roughly 2-3 hits to kill, high rof guns take roughly 1-2 seconds of hitting to kill someone with 100% accuracy, so there are more situations where they shine despite being more punishing for misses and being in gen harder to hit (not that lighting gun isnt meta either its the other 30%).

The titans similarly more strongly favor spike/burst dmg compared to pilots because titan vs titan has a higher ttk in gen than pilot vs pilot.

[Smug Kot]

Messaggio originale di MaximusBlastalot:

Messaggio originale di Smug Kot:

The game its about speed so obviously SMGs, shotguns and AR are .

No those things are top tier becus the game has a low ttk, so a slow projectile that instantly kills people isnt super strong compared to a rapid fire hitscan that kills in 2-3 hits.

If you play a "fast paced game" that have higher ttk like quake/tribes/unreal heck even something like teamfortress 2 spike dmg weapons become much more potent.

Rocket and rail in quake are 70% of the meta becus while they kill in roughly 2-3 hits to kill, high rof guns take roughly 1-2 seconds of hitting to kill someone with 100% accuracy, so there are more situations where they shine despite being more punishing for misses and being in gen harder to hit (not that lighting gun isnt meta either its the other 30%).

The titans similarly more strongly favor spike/burst dmg compared to pilots because titan vs titan has a higher ttk in gen than pilot vs pilot.

If EPG or really any pilot rocket based weapon was as fast as the rockets from Unreal/Quake then they will be top choise too and really isnt that far from that, EPG and Cold War are great weapons.

But anyway im going off my point, it its if someone skilled with a "crappy" weapon its kicking you ass then hell he will do it with a meta one.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Messaggio originale di Smug Kot:

If EPG or really any pilot rocket based weapon was as fast as the rockets from Unreal/Quake then they will be top choise too and really isnt that far from that, EPG and Cold War are great weapons.

They are no where near the hitscan Even in class the sidewinder is just more practical.

The epg is about the speed of ut and old quakes 1-4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRGNUkTaEQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJqTVYag8AE


Its also about 2/3rds bigger in aoe with less drop off and is an insta kill on close or direct vs taking 2-3 shots in most cases (else it takes more).

The speed has nothing to do with it, it applies equally to the kraber. The ttk on high rof hitscans is low enough that it downplays spike dmg even when its an insta kill.

Same reason it inverted for northstar becus titan ttk is so much higher.

[Awakened Gamer]

Messaggio originale di meh:

Messaggio originale di SquatSław:

"reeee forfeit 50% of the content and play like me and the rest of people whot reat this game like a job or otherwise you cant even compete reeee"

yeah no.

This game is nowhere near perfect and has some serious balancing issues. And some serious design issues it needs fixed. (otherwise you wouldnt need to forfeit literally 50% of the content to play the game the way it was meant to be played nad have it actually work together.)

I have to agree with this. The strawman responses to my own criticism also seems to demonstrate an additional layer of the fanboyism from this particular circle. It's no wonder this game basically died and was only reborn by dumping it on a Steam sale. After 8 hours or so the issues become more obvious and harder to ignore. The movement system (which is good) probably isn't enough to keep a lot of players interested.

Considering the amount of shills who come here to trash titanfall 2 really? Lol if anything its the opposite of fanboyism, everyone here is pretty objective about the flaws in titanfall 2, I have never seen any blind fanboyism here.

The problem is people like you are always here in experienced complaining about the game with no real basic understanding to begin with, most of us finished the campaign before we went into mp since it does teach you the game first, none of these complaints are warrented when you actually understand some of what your actually playing.

Maybe if you guys had something constructive like the matchmaking system we would take you more seriously.

[Gobbo, The Lootest]

Messaggio originale di JC DENTON:

Some people are just so far above me in terms of skill it's unreal. What am I supposed to do against the guy flying around noscoping everyone from across the map?He gets ~40 kills and everyone else gets around 8 or so. I can't 'git gud' against this. I will NEVER be that good.

There are more people cheating than players playing well. I'm seeing a lot of players moving at 200% speed without stim, players that lag all over the place, hitting 90+% of shots. That's not skill, that's cheating.

[Gobbo, The Lootest]

Messaggio originale di Dragonbound:

Messaggio originale di meh:

I have to agree with this. The strawman responses to my own criticism also seems to demonstrate an additional layer of the fanboyism from this particular circle. It's no wonder this game basically died and was only reborn by dumping it on a Steam sale. After 8 hours or so the issues become more obvious and harder to ignore. The movement system (which is good) probably isn't enough to keep a lot of players interested.

Considering the amount of shills who come here to trash titanfall 2 really? Lol if anything its the opposite of fanboyism, everyone here is pretty objective about the flaws in titanfall 2, I have never seen any blind fanboyism here.

The problem is people like you are always here in experienced complaining about the game with no real basic understanding to begin with, most of us finished the campaign before we went into mp since it does teach you the game first, none of these complaints are warrented when you actually understand some of what your actually playing.

Maybe if you guys had something constructive like the matchmaking system we would take you more seriously.

Look at this guy, lying about not seeing fanboys for this game lol.

[Awakened Gamer]

Messaggio originale di Grandpa Max:

Messaggio originale di Dragonbound:

Considering the amount of shills who come here to trash titanfall 2 really? Lol if anything its the opposite of fanboyism, everyone here is pretty objective about the flaws in titanfall 2, I have never seen any blind fanboyism here.

The problem is people like you are always here in experienced complaining about the game with no real basic understanding to begin with, most of us finished the campaign before we went into mp since it does teach you the game first, none of these complaints are warrented when you actually understand some of what your actually playing.

Maybe if you guys had something constructive like the matchmaking system we would take you more seriously.

Look at this guy, lying about not seeing fanboys for this game lol.

I mean I have not seen it on steam since I started playing, that does not mean I did not see it on reddit for example but regardless the amount of blind fanboyism is very minimal.

[Rivers]

I dont know if any of you played the first titanfall, but the game had basically the same problems, and instead of fixing those problems, devs announced titanfall 2, and didnt fix anything lol. Now its obvious that devs dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about titanfall 2, was just copy paste of multiplayer and a single player mode for easy cash and move onto the next project.

It's EA after all, they should have closed doors a long time ago.

[Heathcliff→Bonjour Suzuki]

Git gud?