why is tone a thing

[Atte]

pls

[Ishan451]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Lolzguyl 2.0:

Watch the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bPEYYnSdKE. You see plenty of examples where if Lethal hadn't ran overcore, he would've lost. In any of the scenarios in the video, are you really telling me that waiting 5s for another dash would've truly made a difference for the better?

The issue with turbo engine on any titan but ogres is that to get back 2 or 3 dashes, having 1 or 2 stored dashes (depending on which titan chassis you are) is required for a 2nd or 3rd dash to start recharging. Waiting 10s without dashing as tone vs ronin is signing your death warrant. If you aren't dashing every 5s, you are setting yourself at a unnecessary disadvantage.

You are not playing 1v1... you are likely playing in a Team and don't start with a fair square 0 1v1 situation.

Overcore doesn't help you, if you unloaded into that Scorch on the enemy team just before the Ronin shows up. Turbo Engine does help you.

So yes, i do believe it makes a difference in the actual game, outside a honor duel, to have more dashes available to you.


And just to be clear: I am not saying Tone if Op, i said a well played Tone can beat Ronin.

[Lolzguyl 2.0]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย El Buhdai:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Lolzguyl 2.0:

Why would you slot anything else? You shouldn't be close enough to the enemy to need stealth eject or nuke.

So I don't snipe you out of the air with the 40mm at any range. 6 - 7 years of Titanfall 1 and 2 experience is a dangerous thing lol.

Proceeds to stim eject*

[Lolzguyl 2.0]

You are not playing 1v1... you are likely playing in a Team and don't start with a fair square 0 1v1 situation.

Overcore doesn't help you, if you unloaded into that Scorch on the enemy team just before the Ronin shows up. Turbo Engine does help you. One dash will not save you against a ronin. They'll still be able to close the gap whilst blocking and then continue the engagement. Once ronin is in your face, turbo engine becomes largely moot because of how well they can maintain close range. [/quote]


If you're in teams, ronin isn't able to push up as freely as a 1v1 allows him to since you have teammates that can punish if he focuses you as tone. A majority of competitive (the only ronin players worth being mindful of) players fall into the more passive playstyle in teams anyway.

If you dumped your abilities, which as tone isn't a huge deficit to begin with, you'll rotate out for teammates. I know some tones that run turbo engine, but only in public games of titan brawl where little to no focus is on coordinated/semi coordinated teamplay. As soon as you enter LTS, the only competitive titan only mode, overcore becomes more valuable. The enemy getting core before you is a massive setback, especially if its' an isolated fight/during an enemy push. Mobility isn't something tone is heavily reliant on due to factors such as map/battery control, and more importantly, pressure, both the pressure that she provides but also the pressure of the enemy team and her teammates. If tone were to fall back from a 3v3-5v5 match, it would allow the enemy 3-5 players to collapse on tone's remaining teammates and her not being able to rotate back in time to prevent it. It'd be an guaranteed way to lose map control or lose the fight over it. Turbo engine enhances poking power, this is an area tone is quite lacking in, she benefits far more from a sustained line of sight, if you're relying on a second dash to get into such a position in time, chances are you are going to get overrun since your teammates hadn't created enough space for you to move up safely at a 1 dash pace.

[dLFN]

just play ion with the vortex amplifier kit smh

[Burger Beers]

scorch bodies everything

[dLFN]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Burger Beers:

scorch bodies everything

except people that can back away

[Wish Maker]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Marauder of Opportunity:

That's because Ronin is paper to Tone's rock.

Papa Scorch Disagrees with this statement.

[Margaret Thatcher]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย dLFN:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Burger Beers:

scorch bodies everything

except people that can back away

thats why you get friends to give them surprise anal from behind while you burn them

[Lolzguyl 2.0]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย dLFN:

just play ion with the vortex amplifier kit smh

That's reliant on tone firing tracker rockets into vortex, which no good tone will ever do. If the player you're up against makes such a big mistake, any titan/any ion kit would be sufficient. Entangled energy would still be the best kit to run due to its' synergy with zero point laser, effectively guaranteeing more vortex up time.

[Lolzguyl 2.0]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย my fat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ balls:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย dLFN:

except people that can back away

thats why you get friends to give them surprise anal from behind while you burn them

If 1+ of scorch's teammates were to go for a flank, scorch would be alone/the ones' that didn't flank would be at a numbers disadvantage, allowing the other team to farm core off of scorch/collapse on the outnumbered remaining titans before they get there since stalling and mitigating damage isn't his forte/they are a man down. There is a reason why flanking in competitive play isn't a frequently used tactic beyond the first engagement.

[Dexious Emera]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Burger Beers:

scorch bodies everything

Depends on the map, scorch can be a sitting duck in a lot of them

[Daniel.9650]

Tone exists so noobs don't cry because big bad scorch is hard to use

[Lolzguyl 2.0]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Daniel.9650:

Tone exists so noobs don't cry because big bad scorch is hard to use

Scorch's mechanical skill ceiling is quite small. Reload cancelling, eject coring, aiming, and remembering to ADS quickly before shooting for consistent spread. His skill, as a lot of others, comes from ability management, positioning, and local/overarching game strategy and awareness. However, there are multiple titans that require more skill within the aforementioned fields to achieve equal success.

Tone has much more mechanical requirements than scorch does due to salvo curving, her lack of a mobile defensive requires her to think of when to place down particle wall and how to position. Not too close lest she get overrun, although not too far so that enemies can ignore her wall by denying her line of sight. She requires a general greater understanding of pressure due to having to answer more frequently to defensive abilities than scorch does in competitive play. Her skill ceiling with core is higher as well.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

I dont understand why people complain about tone or scorch I just dont.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Ishan451:

And just to be clear: I am not saying Tone if Op, i said a well played Tone can beat Ronin.

Yeah and a ronin can beat a northstar but in a "perfect game" they prob wont.
Just like white will win in a perfect game of chess, dosent mean white always wins.

Ronin is favored vs tone, is it minute? Yeah, but it still a minute favor.

[Astellan]

Because Tone is a long Range titan that if someone understands distance control and particle shield can give people trouble. If you are fighting a Tone its lethality is based on the player being smart enough to use the map to their advantage.