how is this game so highly rated?!?!?

[steph_kage666]

I literally and without exaggeration or joking fell asleep while "playing" this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ piece of ♥♥♥♥ so i can't even refund it. i know the yakuza games have a lot of cutscenes but this game is taking the piss, 4 hours in and only 15 minutes of actual gameplay, 10 of which are walking from point a to point b?!?1 are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kidding me?!?! what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rip-off

[skullymex]

Browsing the reviews, it seems to me people enjoy this game because of its story and characters, as well as the humor.
it does drag on a bit in the beginning, but I'd suggest sticking with it for a while longer. It picks up once you're past all the exposition and stuff.

[Lar Dass]

Its a new protagonist its giving you context behind everything including ichiban's personality and who he is, and no its not 15 minutes of gameplay in 4 hours, your first fight is only 45 minutes in and then you can do some more fights after, chapter 2 and 3 is when you get to fully explore, its like that in all yakuza games

[steph_kage666]

Originally posted by Lar Dass:

Its a new protagonist its giving you context behind everything including ichiban's personality and who he is, and no its not 15 minutes of gameplay in 4 hours, your first fight is only 45 minutes in and then you can do some more fights after, chapter 2 and 3 is when you get to fully explore, its like that in all yakuza games

most of those fights last like 1 minute and aren't engaging at all since you only have 1 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ability that pretty much one shots every enemy, you might as well not have them at all

[Galliband]

new to Yakuza eh?

[Sasha Pines (no brain)]

same deal as every yakuza game if you say this is boring then why are you have the most time on fallout and elder scroll series which is even worst then this

[Lar Dass]

Originally posted by Sasha Pines (no brain):

same deal as every yakuza game if you say this is boring then why are you have the most time on fallout and elder scroll series which is even worst then this

OP couldnt handle you spittin the truth

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[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Sasha Pines (no brain):

same deal as every yakuza game if you say this is boring then why are you have the most time on fallout and elder scroll series which is even worst then this

2 different overall focuses compared to yakuza series.

[Chesty La'Rou]

Honestly, to answer the OP's question. It's not that the game is over rated, it's that a good portion of PC gamers have developed unrealistic expectations when it comes to games. These same class of gamers also like to claim "buyers' remorse" even though is usually a ton of media that is available to view before said purchase. On top of the refund for under 2 hours of game play.

There isn't even any arguements or debates, it's plain unrealistic expectations and buyers remorse.

[PlagueBrain]

The Yakuza/LAD series has always had slow burn opening hours. This one, it just happens to be a little more apparent because it's turn based.

They were always meant to be divided between an open world brawler-meets-life-sim and the cinematic main and side stories. Just to greater effect here, where the early emphasis is really 100% on that.

Originally posted by steph_kage666:

most of those fights last like 1 minute and aren't engaging at all since you only have 1 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ability that pretty much one shots every enemy, you might as well not have them at all

You're new to the series and to JRPGs, I guess? This is standard for both of them. Nothing in the main series has movesets that open up until hours into the game, and same with JRPGs.

The series never has been to everyone's taste, and that's fine. And this one was one of the more polarizing ones to begin with (due to massive changes in the combat and leveling systems). But otherwise, it's as the series always has been.

It's not the instant gratification as in - upthread - TES and Fallout, where you can mindlessly wander and attack ♥♥♥♥. Yakuza has that, sure (esp after the world opens up), but it's never been the main focus. The focus has always been the stories - main and substories.

[steph_kage666]

Originally posted by Lar Dass:

Originally posted by Sasha Pines (no brain):

same deal as every yakuza game if you say this is boring then why are you have the most time on fallout and elder scroll series which is even worst then this

OP couldnt handle you spittin the truth

no, the comparison was so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiotic it wasn't even worth addressing

[steph_kage666]

Originally posted by PlagueBrain:

The Yakuza/LAD series has always had slow burn opening hours. This one, it just happens to be a little more apparent because it's turn based.

They were always meant to be divided between an open world brawler-meets-life-sim and the cinematic main and side stories. Just to greater effect here, where the early emphasis is really 100% on that.

Originally posted by steph_kage666:

most of those fights last like 1 minute and aren't engaging at all since you only have 1 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ability that pretty much one shots every enemy, you might as well not have them at all

You're new to the series and to JRPGs, I guess? This is standard for both of them. Nothing in the main series has movesets that open up until hours into the game, and same with JRPGs.

The series never has been to everyone's taste, and that's fine. And this one was one of the more polarizing ones to begin with (due to massive changes in the combat and leveling systems). But otherwise, it's as the series always has been.

It's not the instant gratification as in - upthread - TES and Fallout, where you can mindlessly wander and attack ♥♥♥♥. Yakuza has that, sure (esp after the world opens up), but it's never been the main focus. The focus has always been the stories - main and substories.

someone timed it, in 0 it takes about an hour for the game to start opening up and you can explore a bit, in this one it takes over 2 hours, that's double the time and you can definitely feel it. i've pushed through to when this game opens up and it is fun, but christ they could've done a better job at balancing gameplay with cutscenes in the beginning

[steph_kage666]

Originally posted by Chesty La'Rou:

Honestly, to answer the OP's question. It's not that the game is over rated, it's that a good portion of PC gamers have developed unrealistic expectations when it comes to games. These same class of gamers also like to claim "buyers' remorse" even though is usually a ton of media that is available to view before said purchase. On top of the refund for under 2 hours of game play.

There isn't even any arguements or debates, it's plain unrealistic expectations and buyers remorse.

i agree with you with the general sentiment that gamers have unrealistic expectations, but i don't think expecting more gameplay in the first two and a half hours of a videogame is unrealistic. like i said in another comment, this game takes twice as long as 0 until you are allowed some freedom to explore

[Bankai9212]

For each yakuza game it takes a bit of time for the game to open up with tons of dialogue at the start. As someone mention with a new protag they need time to set things up.

[Chesty La'Rou]

Originally posted by steph_kage666:

Originally posted by Chesty La'Rou:

Honestly, to answer the OP's question. It's not that the game is over rated, it's that a good portion of PC gamers have developed unrealistic expectations when it comes to games. These same class of gamers also like to claim "buyers' remorse" even though is usually a ton of media that is available to view before said purchase. On top of the refund for under 2 hours of game play.

There isn't even any arguements or debates, it's plain unrealistic expectations and buyers remorse.

i agree with you with the general sentiment that gamers have unrealistic expectations, but i don't think expecting more gameplay in the first two and a half hours of a videogame is unrealistic. like i said in another comment, this game takes twice as long as 0 until you are allowed some freedom to explore

That is why as a consumer you have the ability to choose what you purchase. You can't consider yourself "entitled" to a certain type of game and game play just because you HAVE money to spend.

As I said before. There was and is a lot of media out on the internet so a person could have seen what the game was before hand. Also, the refund option.

Everyone who voted the game as "good" did so because it was good. Just because you don't agree with the rating and the 10's of thousands of other gamers who enjoyed it shouldn't enable you to claim the game is "over rated".