Shogi is not a minigame

[Dantegod]

I'm around 7 hours in and wanted to start playing around with the minigames and other stuff in this game as I've just been mainly doing the main missions. So I decided to give shogi a try and lost so fast. After watching videos and tutorials on how shogi plays, I was able to last 90 moves but still had no chance of winning. Shogi is not a minigame, it's an entire game in itself and I wish they didn't add it into this game.

I understand there are videos out there showing step by step how to beat each challenge but I try not to go that route in alot of video games. It's just really frustrating because I have this mindset and now I'm gonna need to try and go deep into learning how to become better at shogi just to complete more of this game. Just needed to rant a bit and calm down haha.

[Nick]

Originally posted by Dantegod:

Shogi is not a minigame, it's an entire game in itself and I wish they didn't add it into this game.

Just don't play it? You also don't need to beat the challenges for anything, just the checkmate excercises for the completion list iirc.

[Valar Morghulis]

I feel you. Wanted to play a few rounds with a bit of experience, but even the 10th Kyu ranks mob the floor with me. Zero chance of winning.

[Valk]

Originally posted by Dantegod:

I'm around 7 hours in and wanted to start playing around with the minigames and other stuff in this game as I've just been mainly doing the main missions. So I decided to give shogi a try and lost so fast. After watching videos and tutorials on how shogi plays, I was able to last 90 moves but still had no chance of winning. Shogi is not a minigame, it's an entire game in itself and I wish they didn't add it into this game.

I understand there are videos out there showing step by step how to beat each challenge but I try not to go that route in alot of video games. It's just really frustrating because I have this mindset and now I'm gonna need to try and go deep into learning how to become better at shogi just to complete more of this game. Just needed to rant a bit and calm down haha.

By extension, they should also remove: all gambling games, darts, all homeless gambling games, and mahjong. Thats like, half of the minigames in the game. They are ALL full games. No, the reality is just that Shogi is more complex to learn and that you don't want to learn it or don't have the patience to practice it. Absolutely not a reason to remove it though.

[Dantegod]

Meh its all good. I was just ranting that day. Im over 40 hours in the game now and love that I decided to stick with it. This game is so fun. It's definitely one of the wackiest games I've played in a long time.

[Zloth]

Originally posted by Dantegod:

This game is so fun. It's definitely one of the wackiest games I've played in a long time.

Oh, they've got a LOT of that! And then, all of the sudden, it switches gears and gets serious, then goes insane again - and it works! (Well, mostly. Sometimes one side or the other falls flat. Can't please everyone all the time.)

[ValentB]

lishogi.org
Use that. Their AI beats Yakuza AI.

[Taisetsu na Miko]

Yeah, the Shogi minigame seems in bad taste to put as the first minigame you are likely to encounter. But I am not sure you get anything from it. Just read the achievements list and they only thing you probably need to do there was play the game at all. Challenge mode for some reason my first instinct for what to play as someone who does not understand the game and it does seem like what they intended you to do because the first challenge is braindead.

[AaronAllBlacks]

Originally posted by ValentB:

lishogi.org
Use that. Their AI beats Yakuza AI.

Yea this, I just download an Android app with max difficulty AI and have myself take the game's AI's turns and then make the app's AI's moves myself in the game. For me I play chess adeptly ~1200 and Shogi interests me, but I can't read the piece identifiers at large at a glance like I can in chess (I wish there was a text option to just show the words in English, i.e. "Gold General").

So you don't screw up:

1.) Figure out if you go first or not
2.a.) If you go first, make your Shogi app/site's max difficulty AI go first and play their move in game
2.b.) If you go second, play the same move the game's AI makes against you, against the app/site max difficulty AI
3.) Remember your turn order and be the input-liaison for both games

Now Mahjong on the other hand, there's no easy way, you can either learn and play it genuinely, or spend as much time cracking it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/yakuzagames/comments/nq6aes/an_online_tool_that_helps_you_easily_win_at/

https://tenhou.net/2/