Yakuza: Like a Dragon

Yakuza: Like a Dragon

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Singh Sep 17, 2023 @ 8:24am
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Remove Denuvo
Given the entire Yakuza series is on GoG now, it's time to remove Denuvo from the Steam Versions.

I have one of the earlier versions of this series - I would have picked up some of the others on this sale if not for Denuvo.

Sega must like lost sales.
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Rapscallion Sep 17, 2023 @ 8:52am 
We need to make more noise about this. These people seem clueless on the number of sales they're losing. I don't care how much this game is discounted. I wouldn't even play it for free if it has Denuvo.

DENUVO KILLS SALES!
DENUVO PUNISHES REGULAR CUSTOMERS!
DENUVO PROMOTES PIRATING GAMES!

WAKE UP SEGA!!
BimboGooch Sep 17, 2023 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by Rapscallion:
We need to make more noise about this. These people seem clueless on the number of sales they're losing. I don't care how much this game is discounted. I wouldn't even play it for free if it has Denuvo.

DENUVO KILLS SALES!
DENUVO PUNISHES REGULAR CUSTOMERS!
DENUVO PROMOTES PIRATING GAMES!

WAKE UP SEGA!!

denuvo doesnt support pirating games lol. Thats just a self projection on your part. Denuvo is literally meant to counter that. Which denuvo does counter it for most games, unless they sell like ass. If denuvo didnt work big companies wouldnt use it.
Allthough its kinda dumb to keep it up after a game is cracked, or they release a non DRM version on a different platform.
Singh Sep 17, 2023 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by BimboGooch:
Denuvo is literally meant to counter [piracy]. Which denuvo does counter [piracy] for most games, unless they sell like ass. If denuvo didnt work big companies wouldnt use it.

The majority of Denuvo games get cracked so its use in stopping piracy is minimal to non-existent. Here's a a recent list of uncracked Denuvo games.[ganker.com]

Denuvo is simply an insurance policy publicly traded game companies buy to show shareholders that 'they're acting responsibly,' and therefore worthy of investment. Ultimately Denuvo is bad for the consumer and does almost nothing to protect the vast majority of games that use it.
Van Darkholme Sep 17, 2023 @ 9:33am 
Thanks for the Denuvo reminder, was on the edge of picking this up with the current sale.
Well looks I gotta wait until it gets removed.
Lycon Sep 17, 2023 @ 3:23pm 
why is denuvo bad? what does it do and what is it?
Singh Sep 17, 2023 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by Lycon:
why is denuvo bad? what does it do and what is it?

You have a 19yr old account and you don't know what Denuvo is or why DRM is bad for consumers? Did you buy your account?

Resident Evil Village PC DRM: Cracked Code Really Does Run Better - Confirmed

Tekken 7 Director Says Denuvo DRM Is Causing Performance Issues In The Game[wccftech.com]
Waifu4Life Sep 17, 2023 @ 6:03pm 
Just curious, could we buy the Steam version but replace the EXE of the game with the GOG version?
Lost Froggy Sep 17, 2023 @ 8:50pm 
Was just about to buy, saw it still has this. removed from cart! TY for making noise so I would know it was there, saved me from having to refund.
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sumolagann Sep 17, 2023 @ 10:05pm 
Please remove denuvo
Gio Sep 18, 2023 @ 1:22am 
Saw game on sale, added to cart, then saw game still have denuvo, removed from cart.
Remove denuvo, I'd like to be able to play a game without my CPU being under load for no reason.
13LACK ORDER Sep 18, 2023 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by Singh:
Originally posted by BimboGooch:
Denuvo is literally meant to counter [piracy]. Which denuvo does counter [piracy] for most games, unless they sell like ass. If denuvo didnt work big companies wouldnt use it.

The majority of Denuvo games get cracked so its use in stopping piracy is minimal to non-existent. Here's a a recent list of uncracked Denuvo games.[ganker.com]

Denuvo is simply an insurance policy publicly traded game companies buy to show shareholders that 'they're acting responsibly,' and therefore worthy of investment. Ultimately Denuvo is bad for the consumer and does almost nothing to protect the vast majority of games that use it.

Denuvo isn't meant to prevent piracy. someone would find a way to crack the game sooner or later. Denuvo is meant to delay the crack as long as possible especially on first couple of months after released because where the hype still strong. that's where most game sale came from.

The company wouldn't care if the game cracked a year after it's released because the hype has died down by that time. the big company keep using denuvo means it proven to be successful to delay the piracy and boost their sale in some capacity

Though i agree the company should remove them once the game was cracked because there's no point in keeping it anymore
Maxlor17 Sep 18, 2023 @ 8:02am 
I don't get it. Does Denuvo just make the game run worse? Is that all that it does? Because I'm reading this after the fact of buying it (all the Yakuza games) and so far running perfectly fine at maximum settings. What else is wrong with Denuvo? Why would it make people wanna not buy it?
Waifu4Life Sep 18, 2023 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by maxlor17:
I don't get it. Does Denuvo just make the game run worse? Is that all that it does? Because I'm reading this after the fact of buying it (all the Yakuza games) and so far running perfectly fine at maximum settings. What else is wrong with Denuvo? Why would it make people wanna not buy it?

My main reason is that Denuvo makes a call home (Denuvo's servers) every 2 or 3 weeks.
-For Steam Deck users, it means that if you're offline the day that it needs to do so, then you can't play the game because it can't phone home.
-Also for Steam Deck users, if you switch around the version of Proton too much, it may prevent you from playing the game for a day or two.
-For all users, if the Denuvo servers have issues (happened a few times), you may not be able to play your game if it was time to phone home.
-For all users, if the parent company of Denuvo goes sunder or simply decides to close that division, well your games with Denuvo will stop playing since they won't be able to call home. If this happens, you will need to pray that the publisher will care enough to remove it from the EXE file with an update.

Originally posted by Waifu4Life:
Just curious, could we buy the Steam version but replace the EXE of the game with the GOG version?

Answered my own question on that buy buying (and refunding) the game and replacing it the EXE with the ones from GOG. It's a big NO on that one.
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Singh Sep 18, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by Medium Size:
Denuvo is meant to delay the crack as long as possible especially on first couple of months after released because where the hype still strong. that's where most game sale came from.

Yes this is a familiar denuvo talking point, but the Denuvo games that take a year to crack or longer are the minority (not the majority) so it's not a compelling argument.

Originally posted by Medium Size:
...the big company keep using denuvo means it proven to be successful to delay the piracy and boost their sale in some capacity

There's no evidence for this. Like I said the best it can be compared to is an insurance policy that publicly traded game companies use to make themselves look responsible to investors.

Two of the most popular games on Steam right now - Starfield and Bauldur's Gate 3 - do not use Denuvo. BG3 is even one of the highest played games of all time on Steam currently. Arguably using Denuvo would actually hurt the sales of both of these games because of the likely performance impacts, causing backlash, negative reviews and lost sales.

Doom Eternal had poor performance at launch and ID software patched out Denuvo within the first weeks because of strong negative feedback from players. Had ID kept Denuvo in for months after launch the stutter people were complaining about from Denuvo would have likely driven down review scores and hurt sales. So no Denuvo is not in anyway a 'sure thing' to boost sales.

Payday 3 has already backed down and announced they will not have Denuvo (likely because of worries to performance and the negative feedback they had when first listing the game with Denuvo). Negative feedback kills the launch of games and Denuvo with its proven track record of performance issues is a risky bet especially when the polish of a game's code at launch is in its worst state.

Originally posted by Waifu4Life:
Just curious, could we buy the Steam version but replace the EXE of the game with the GOG version?

What you can do is install a GoG title (or any game outside of steam) and link the .exe location to your Steam library of games. You would have to google it because its been a long time since I've done it. The problem (used to be) is that Steam would occasionally forget the link (after a Steam update or w/e) and you'd have to relink the .exe location. It may have gotten better since then - I don't know.
Last edited by Singh; Sep 18, 2023 @ 2:42pm
Waifu4Life Sep 18, 2023 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Singh:
What you can do is install a GoG title (or any game outside of steam) and link the .exe location to your Steam library of games. You would have to google it because its been a long time since I've done it. The problem (used to be) is that Steam would occasionally forget the link (after a Steam update or w/e) and you'd have to relink the .exe location. It may have gotten better since then - I don't know.

I know how to do that, but my main reason for sticking with Steam now is to have my achievements in one place.
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