Does anyone else think... [ENDING SPOILERS]

[Orpheus]

...that Masato's death was such a waste? After so much effort, Ichiban was finally able to convince his "brother"... Only to be killed by Kume of all people. What do you think?

[Bankai9212]

Seems like the usual yakuza plot to me. Although I honestly doubt he would have dead from that stab.

[Alisa, Best Girl]

It was a waste, same with Mine, when the villains seem to reconsider their actions only to bite it in the end. It was definitely a waste getting offed by that loser Kume, especially since we don't see what happens to Kume in the end (personally think that douche killed himself too, he was full on psycho at that point). But as the other poster mentions, it is a common trend for Yakuza games to stab you in the heart with feels before they stab the character too.

[regonel64578]

Originally posted by Alisa, Best Girl:

It was a waste, same with Mine, when the villains seem to reconsider their actions only to bite it in the end. It was definitely a waste getting offed by that loser Kume, especially since we don't see what happens to Kume in the end (personally think that douche killed himself too, he was full on psycho at that point). But as the other poster mentions, it is a common trend for Yakuza games to stab you in the heart with feels before they stab the character too.

Worse, chances are Kume will be a recurring villain now, from this title onwards. No way Kume is going to kill himself. He is a hypocrite, who thinks what he's doing is "Justice" despite being unable to do anything himself (and what he does do is the exact opposite of Justice).

He's delusional and a hypocrite and chances are we will see him again in the next title. I really hope he gets finished over there and we don't have to see him again. He's a pathetic villain.

[Alisa, Best Girl]

Originally posted by regonel64578:

Originally posted by Alisa, Best Girl:

It was a waste, same with Mine, when the villains seem to reconsider their actions only to bite it in the end. It was definitely a waste getting offed by that loser Kume, especially since we don't see what happens to Kume in the end (personally think that douche killed himself too, he was full on psycho at that point). But as the other poster mentions, it is a common trend for Yakuza games to stab you in the heart with feels before they stab the character too.

Worse, chances are Kume will be a recurring villain now, from this title onwards. No way Kume is going to kill himself. He is a hypocrite, who thinks what he's doing is "Justice" despite being unable to do anything himself (and what he does do is the exact opposite of Justice).

He's delusional and a hypocrite and chances are we will see him again in the next title. I really hope he gets finished over there and we don't have to see him again. He's a pathetic villain.

Nah, Yakuza as a series has yet to make a pathetic villain, theyre not going to start with Kume of all people. I can still see him offing himself rather easily considering everything he had is effectively gone

[rrReyn]

Yeah, i feel the same. A great character sacrificed for a dramatic moment. How did Kume even know where to find them before the police? But i think they couldn't have done otherwise. It's like sending a message: crime will be punished one way or another. i personally would like if Masato lived in a prison, reflecting on himself, visited by Ichiban sometimes. But I think this would not be appropriate for a Japanese story.

[Rabbit]

We don't actually know he's dead. We saw him being rushed to the hospital and then there was a time jump where everyone was like 'yeah, he's dead'. It's just as likely he's in hiding or living under a new identity to start over. It was very suspicious the way they glossed over that part.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Rabbit:

We don't actually know he's dead. We saw him being rushed to the hospital and then there was a time jump where everyone was like 'yeah, he's dead'. It's just as likely he's in hiding or living under a new identity to start over. It was very suspicious the way they glossed over that part.

They had an entire funeral, plus if they were going to fake his death they'd use the same method as Ichiban.

[Airstrike[Zzz]]

Originally posted by Rabbit:

We don't actually know he's dead. We saw him being rushed to the hospital and then there was a time jump where everyone was like 'yeah, he's dead'. It's just as likely he's in hiding or living under a new identity to start over. It was very suspicious the way they glossed over that part.

This is my theory as well. It'd be way easier on Masato to evade consequences for his crimes by taking him to the homeless camp for revival and faking his death. With the Geomijul's systems still mostly broken, they might be able to get away with it undetected. For the theory to be true, though, it would require Ichiban to be doing a lot of pretending in those final scenes.

[Pain In The Astrologian]

Personally, I felt the scene would have been better ended with the gun being placed in the locker and the locker being closed, cutting the screen to black and then going to Arakawa's funeral. Their tale started together at the lockers, it should end together at the lockers. The stabbing just RUINED what was a perfect camera shot to end the scene on. At least from a cinematic point of view of things.

[Ashot™OneShot]

Originally posted by AirstrikeZzz:

Originally posted by Rabbit:

We don't actually know he's dead. We saw him being rushed to the hospital and then there was a time jump where everyone was like 'yeah, he's dead'. It's just as likely he's in hiding or living under a new identity to start over. It was very suspicious the way they glossed over that part.

This is my theory as well. It'd be way easier on Masato to evade consequences for his crimes by taking him to the homeless camp for revival and faking his death. With the Geomijul's systems still mostly broken, they might be able to get away with it undetected. For the theory to be true, though, it would require Ichiban to be doing a lot of pretending in those final scenes.

I personaly think the same, but to strengthen this theory Ichiban didn't had to fake his grief because this was alse the funeral for Arakawa. Also in the end we get to know Masato's "last" words, they were something like: "Rock bottom, huh? I'll take the risk." I'm actually surprised nobody talks about this, the first time I complited the game that's what I thought happened

[Rumitus]

I feel like his death is symbolic. Masato's past actions caught up to him and Kume was the monster that he helped create. The locker baby story really hits hard to me, but as you know by this point, even that ends right in front of the lockers.

And to the person who said Yakuza never made a pathetic villain, Iwami was that living embodiment of pathetic. I really have no idea how people defend him. Either for his involvement in the story, or how he was written. Pathetic all around.

[Legato Bluesummers]

Originally posted by regonel64578:

Originally posted by Alisa, Best Girl:

It was a waste, same with Mine, when the villains seem to reconsider their actions only to bite it in the end. It was definitely a waste getting offed by that loser Kume, especially since we don't see what happens to Kume in the end (personally think that douche killed himself too, he was full on psycho at that point). But as the other poster mentions, it is a common trend for Yakuza games to stab you in the heart with feels before they stab the character too.

Worse, chances are Kume will be a recurring villain now, from this title onwards. No way Kume is going to kill himself. He is a hypocrite, who thinks what he's doing is "Justice" despite being unable to do anything himself (and what he does do is the exact opposite of Justice).

He's delusional and a hypocrite and chances are we will see him again in the next title. I really hope he gets finished over there and we don't have to see him again. He's a pathetic villain.

and that is exactly why he works as a character, he pisses you off and makes you hate him. But ofc, I agree, the wormtongue character is the most distasteful and it's far more satisfying to see them get rekt sooner rather than later.

[RollCaskett]

Just finished the game myself. I agree with posters saying this was the usual Yakuza ending. Someone gets shot or stabbed left field, then we get some "closure". As for Kume, that would be really weird and interesting if they brought him back in a Yakuza 8 but personally I don't see it happen. Judging from the Kiryu games, antagonists either shoot themselves, get killed off, or arrested and never heard from again *points to Yakuza 5 final boss*.

But all in all I loved the ending. Personally I expecting Mitsu to die some point in the story...