Should I buy this or Yakuza 0?

[Chrisern]

I've never played a Yakuza game. Should I buy this or Yakuza 0? Both look good. It should be mentioned that I play with mouse and keyboard. Which has the better M&KB-controls?

[Frontier Psychiatrist]

I can't speak for controls as I used an Xbox controller, but the games are really different in terms of combat. I would say get both if you can.

[Chrisern]

Originally posted by Frontier Psychiatrist:

I can't speak for controls as I used an Xbox controller, but the games are really different in terms of combat. I would say get both if you can.

Thank you for your swift reply. Would you care to elaborate on the differences in combat?

[Bankai9212]

Well everything up to 6 is 3d brawler combat. Can’t say for m+k controls but some claim they are fine. 7 and 8 are turn based RPGs so mouse and keyboard should be fine with it.

[That Terrible Biscuit]

Like a Dragon is turn based so its slightly better for M&KB but you got to be snappy with certain moves like guard. Sometimes I get confused between space and E. But I usually play this with a game pad and very rarely keyboard when Im on the laptop in bed

[mldb88]

From a story and plot perspective, while the plotlines aren't exactly directly tied to one another, there are a lot of references to characters, events, and places in the prior games. A few of the summons in 7 are callbacks to earlier characters, some of the plot points allude to the events of earlier games (and while not absolutely necessary to understand the plot as a whole, it might give you greater appreciation for certain bits of dialogue or story points knowing the details of the other plotlines in the series), and some of the late game appearances really won't be as meaningful without having the background of the prior games (there's a few big players from the earlier games that make a surprise appearance and play some role in the story).

Personally I'd recommend starting with 0 and working your way through the series. They're (mostly) all worth playing and you really get to appreciate the building overarching lore of the series as you go, seeing how events that happened 5 or 6 games ago affect the plot of the later games. You don't NEED to play the others to understand 7's plot, and on the surface it's pretty straightforward, but a having the knowledge of the previous games stories lets you appreciate some of the more nuanced plot points and add just that much more depth.

[Chrisern]

Thank you guys. I bought Yakuza 0, it seemed like the best place to start.

[Old Atrocity]

Yakuza 7 feels very much like a spinoff game to me, and while it's enjoyable and the story stands on it's own, I think either 0 or Kiwami 1 are absolutely the best starting points for newcomers.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Old Atrocity:

Yakuza 7 feels very much like a spinoff game to me, and while it's enjoyable and the story stands on it's own, I think either 0 or Kiwami 1 are absolutely the best starting points for newcomers.

For Kiryu's story sure, but you don;t need to in order to play 7 not sure about 8.

[Mayon]

2 games are so good, hard to choose

[Chrisern]

I had to refund Y0 because of two reasons:

1. The mouse control was abysmal. Walking around, and trying to look to the side with the camera felt sticky and horrible. Clearly made for consoles, this.
2. The amount of frequent and lengthy cutscenes in the three first hours. This isn't a game, it's a movie.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by chrisern:

I had to refund Y0 because of two reasons:

1. The mouse control was abysmal. Walking around, and trying to look to the side with the camera felt sticky and horrible. Clearly made for consoles, this.
2. The amount of frequent and lengthy cutscenes in the three first hours. This isn't a game, it's a movie.

1st. Some mentioned you should use a controller as the m+k aren’t great from 0-6
2nd. The entire series is like that even like a dragon. But it opens up as you progress, curious what got you interested to try either game or the series without knowing this?

[Chrisern]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

1st. Some mentioned you should use a controller as the m+k aren’t great from 0-6
2nd. The entire series is like that even like a dragon. But it opens up as you progress, curious what got you interested to try either game or the series without knowing this?

1. I gave it a shot. A game released on PC should support proper M+KB control. But now I know for myself.
2. I can stomach some cutscenes, like in The Witcher 3 or Dying Light. But this was too much, even for me. I felt interrupted every other minute, and was forced to watch clips that were over ten minutes long each time. It's a matter of taste, I suppose, but when I want to play a game, I want to PLAY more than WATCH.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by chrisern:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

1st. Some mentioned you should use a controller as the m+k aren’t great from 0-6
2nd. The entire series is like that even like a dragon. But it opens up as you progress, curious what got you interested to try either game or the series without knowing this?

1. I gave it a shot. A game released on PC should support proper M+KB control. But now I know for myself.
2. I can stomach some cutscenes, like in The Witcher 3 or Dying Light. But this was too much, even for me. I felt interrupted every other minute, and was forced to watch clips that were over ten minutes long each time. It's a matter of taste, I suppose, but when I want to play a game, I want to PLAY more than WATCH.

1.While I can agree, the game even stats its better played with a controller being on PC you have various control options. Given the kind of game yakuza is M+K would never be ideal in geneeral.

2.To repeat all the Yakuza games are like this at the start, in order to establish characters, setting, some tutorials etc. I'm going to assume you never reached the first long battle. Yakuza 0 has tons of things on offer even side stuff that'll have a small story attached with talking. If you can't handle that I guess find another game series, since the game isn't all about constant brawling. Unless you expected something else out of the series.

[Sleepy]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by Old Atrocity:

Yakuza 7 feels very much like a spinoff game to me, and while it's enjoyable and the story stands on it's own, I think either 0 or Kiwami 1 are absolutely the best starting points for newcomers.

For Kiryu's story sure, but you don;t need to in order to play 7 not sure about 8.

bro you need to play 0-6 to understand the way of yakuza the people and the clan

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Wanker:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

For Kiryu's story sure, but you don;t need to in order to play 7 not sure about 8.

bro you need to play 0-6 to understand the way of yakuza the people and the clan

Which are explained and shown in like a dragon. None of the events in those games short of 6 has anything ti do with ichiban.