Disgaea 4 Complete+

Disgaea 4 Complete+

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RafalTD Sep 13, 2020 @ 1:00am
Should I buy this one?
i'm new on this series, but I buyed and I'm enjoying Disgaea 1.

I was looking and they dont have all series here on Steam. Usually this is not a problem but I usually like RPG games for their stories. From a narrative perspective, can i play Disgaea 4 and 5 without playing the other ones? Shoud I do this? It will matter to much?

I'm a fan of RPG's Turn based, but i have listened that each game have 100h+ worth of gameplay... 500h+ is to complete all series is too much time for me, i will take almost 2 year to finish all this. Not complaining, I will spend 2 years if it is good, but should I?
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Chizu Sep 13, 2020 @ 1:14am 
The games are all standalone, so yeah, whilst there are callbacks and cameos from previous titles, the main stories of each game are completely separate.

For what its worth 4 is my favourite of the series, so I'd recommend 4 over 5.
Z3n Sep 13, 2020 @ 2:17am 
At worse, you won't enjoy the references and cameos/DLC characters as much. Axel from Disgaea 2 makes a comeback in Disgaea 4 for example.

If you intend to play them all, it's best to play them by order of release, so that you can appreciate the evolution of mechanics and the QoL changes. Getting used to the QoL changes of the newer titles makes it hard to come back to the older ones.

Disgaea 1 and 2 PC are available for cheap. D1 Complete is a more expensive version of D1 with HD graphics and added QoL changes.

D1 is praised for its story, and sets all the core gameplay elements of the series, barely modified in the sequels.

D2 fixes numerous issues with D1 and adds new classes, an ability for each of them to make them more distinct, and has a lot more postgame content (plenty of extra bosses, the Dark World, hunting pirates, the Land of Carnage). D2 has a demo if you want to test it first.

D4 and D5 are some of the latest entries (along with DD2 not available on PC). HD sprites and plenty of mechanics to spice your gameplay. So far, I prefer D5.

D5 has a demo: https://steamdb.info/app/847400/

The demo has the first 6 chapters, the Item World, and all the DLC content. The save can be used for the full game. At the beginning of chapter 2, you need to find and talk to a particular NPC in the hub to advance the story.
matthew Sep 13, 2020 @ 6:34am 
I played all the Disgaea on steam, for me, D5 is clearly the better choice overall. Granted it has the weakest story of the games that I played. But the gameplay is sound.

Playing 4, feels like a step back, its got a decent story compared to 5, but I feel the gameplay is better in 5. Also chara world, not don't it yet in 4, but the version in 5, seems a lot better. (and quicker)

So for me, I say 5 is the best one, followed by 1 (for story) then 4.
Last edited by matthew; Sep 13, 2020 @ 7:03am
SivartStoneheart Sep 13, 2020 @ 12:07pm 
Each game adds new mechanics and normally adds new cameo characters so it is good to do it in order contrary to what these people are saying. Having these cameo characters show up without knowing them will have ZERO effect on you if you have not played the other games. And having all these mechanics thrown at you in a single game can be over baring.

Yes I recommend going in order as much as NIS will let you.

I enjoyed D1 story most D2 second and D5 story sucked but characters were kinda okay but like everyone said combat was good.

I only played D1 and D2 on consoles so I really want everything to come to Steam. The console market is weak.
Last edited by SivartStoneheart; Sep 13, 2020 @ 12:09pm
Kiru Sep 14, 2020 @ 3:27am 
It all depends on what you like. I found D2 and D3 rather... unimpressive and don't think you'd lose anything by not playing those. Yeah, sure, references, but who cares. Why play games for 100+ hours for references of all things.
Disgaea games are fairly similar. Playing 4+5 should be way more than enough to get your fix. In the end, the gameplay is just a little too similar to play each of them for 100 hours without several year long breaks between them.

I'd even argue just going for D5 if time is an issue. D4 probably has the best cast/"story", but ultimately even that is just a small part of the package. Though, from my experience, having likable characters to play with is actually of quite an advantage, but people are different there. And if you don't know D5, it's not like you see problems in comparison to it. D4 is pretty nice coming from D1. It's so much better in every way.
Last edited by Kiru; Sep 14, 2020 @ 3:28am
Pixel Daimyo Sep 14, 2020 @ 3:21pm 
Yes, but for the Nintendo Switch if you have it. I would love to get it on Steam too, but I can't really say no to all that portability. If the Steam version have modding to it, I probably end up buying it on Steam so I can put together all job class and characters from every iteration that is Disgaea into one game.
NoGas Sep 14, 2020 @ 7:51pm 
I have played all of the Disgaea games. I'm not proud of it.

But I can honestly say: the only games I can remember fondly are 1 and 4. 2 felt too close to 1, 3 was a dumpster fire. And while 5 did admittedly make things better for veterans of the game, it did ♥♥♥♥ all in making the game better overall. QoL and some gameplay improvements were made, but if you never played D5, you'd never know it.

4 is the better game all-around. The characters/classes are better, the story is better, the design of the base is better. 5, as I said, has better QoL on some things and it's less grindy. Aside from that, everything else is the same.

Again, I'm a Disgaea junkie. I've played them all. I could not tell you anything generally about D5 other than that it was less grindy. And that was the last Disgaea title I played.
NairBoT Sep 14, 2020 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by NoGas:

4 is the better game all-around. The characters/classes are better, the story is better, the design of the base is better. 5, as I said, has better QoL on some things and it's less grindy. Aside from that, everything else is the same.

Yep, this is how i see it too.

"YES" you should buy this game because it's arguably the best in the series.
Last edited by NairBoT; Sep 14, 2020 @ 10:22pm
HardcoreCasual Sep 15, 2020 @ 10:37am 
I'd say wait. Some of the content isn't avaialble. Wait until NIS pushes out the patch to include the online content as they claim they are going to. If they do so, then buy it. Otherwise, get it elsewhere.
H Sep 15, 2020 @ 1:16pm 
No. I would not recommend Disgaea 4.

Disgaea 3 and 4 are vastly different from 1, 2, D2, and 5.

3 and 4 have a different progression method on top of geo blocks replacing panels with more gimmicks and annoyances (balancing, story progression, progression in general, and the grind is genuinely bad) that are real big turn offs for anyone who is going in blind into 3 and 4.

They're the only games in the series like that and they're both really bad imo. 2 and 5 are on sale rn, they're vastly superior to 4 in every single way.
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