Knock on the Coffin Lid

Knock on the Coffin Lid

Aepervius Aug 11, 2024 @ 5:15am
Does the dev know the definition of haggling ?
Demon ask for 500 gold. I have 1000. I start the option Haggling. The demon at the city door take ALL my gold instead of 500 or less.

By no definition of haggling whatsoever do you start paying a higher price (all your gold) than what you started.
The option should be renamed "Haggling (give all your gold)"

it ruined my run really.
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Jeysie Aug 11, 2024 @ 5:18am 
I heavily suspect the intended point there is that Persival is bad at haggling and/or the demon is a fraud.
Vespertellino Aug 11, 2024 @ 5:27am 
I honestly doon't remember that interaction, but I can guess that the demon might be upset that you're trying to haggle so they completely rob you instead? That's what I would do, I despise hagglers
marfonia  [developer] Aug 11, 2024 @ 5:38am 
Originally posted by Aepervius:
Demon ask for 500 gold. I have 1000. I start the option Haggling. The demon at the city door take ALL my gold instead of 500 or less.

By no definition of haggling whatsoever do you start paying a higher price (all your gold) than what you started.
The option should be renamed "Haggling (give all your gold)"

it ruined my run really.

It's a trick. Do not try to play with demons. They're demons, no good in trusting and trying to negotiate with them.
Aepervius Aug 11, 2024 @ 6:20am 
that still IMO a very bad naming of the option. It should do what it says on the button "haggle" OR at some point in the game demon should show they try to trick you, but I have never encountered another demon before trying to "trick" me in the game.
Yeah same, I thought it would be a reduction in pay, but instead all of my gold was taken. Instead of it being "cool lore" it's just something that makes me go "huh? what? why?". Especially since once the trick is revealed it just becomes a worthless option.

This is not a good design decision.
Neyreyan_Youtube Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by Aepervius:
Demon ask for 500 gold. I have 1000. I start the option Haggling. The demon at the city door take ALL my gold instead of 500 or less.

By no definition of haggling whatsoever do you start paying a higher price (all your gold) than what you started.
The option should be renamed "Haggling (give all your gold)"

it ruined my run really.
Did you just try to negociate with a demon?
Brother, bring the heavy flamer.
Yeah, its prettt much a trap like so many events.
By any chance, have you tried running after the thumbleweed in the desert?
Unfeeling Robot Aug 11, 2024 @ 1:56pm 
I have nothing against casuals, but this is too much, people whine for absolutely stupid reasons. As for me, if you were so "cheated" by the development of the event, then you will probably get more pleasure if you play the game on YouTube. In fact, in all clones of StS or similar projects, with the exception, I think, of Monster Train, the answer options in their majority lead to unexpected results. Remembered and then you don't get fooled.

I was amazed that the developers had to make a separate post about how to play on different difficulties of the game, despite the fact that only the last one really does not encourage you to complete it in the first 40 hours. Soon we will have to come up with a new term for casuals of casuals.
'Strict Aug 11, 2024 @ 2:01pm 
Go back with less than 500 gold and see if the haggle option is there....just saying =)
Its a classic "Choose your own adventure" choice. You screwed up in your choice and got scammed. Now you know. Don't do it again. The game is designed around you trying things and messing up.
'Strict Aug 12, 2024 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:
Originally posted by Aepervius:
Demon ask for 500 gold. I have 1000. I start the option Haggling. The demon at the city door take ALL my gold instead of 500 or less.

By no definition of haggling whatsoever do you start paying a higher price (all your gold) than what you started.
The option should be renamed "Haggling (give all your gold)"

it ruined my run really.
Did you just try to negociate with a demon?
Brother, bring the heavy flamer.
Yeah, its prettt much a trap like so many events.
By any chance, have you tried running after the thumbleweed in the desert?


I thought the game was only on Steam? How do you have it?

Or am I wrong and it's on GoG and Epic?
JustJinxed Aug 12, 2024 @ 8:13am 
I think you should add screen that tells you what happened to all your gold (if there isn't one already) and the next time around, you come prepared to hoodwink the demon, since from your prior death you know he will try to take your gold. Give the player some advantage, start a fight with the demon, and drop a lil extra gold for good measure. That way coming and haggling is worth it. Also adds incentive to take this route.
Last edited by JustJinxed; Aug 12, 2024 @ 8:17am
I thought it was pretty funny. The demon does not accept negotiation. You can't haggle. You pay the 500 gold, all your gold, or you kill him.
Laurykat Aug 14, 2024 @ 3:50am 
The point of this whole game is achieving vicotry through trial and error. Now you know what haggling with the demon does, next time you can use it to your advantage (iew, if you get there with less than 500 gold, you can get past for a reduced cost).

Every choice in the game is like this pretty much, and the whole expectation behind every choice is to see what happens the first time you make the choice so you can know in future playthroughs, I don't know why the "haggle" word would trigger anyone so much.
riomarbastos Aug 14, 2024 @ 4:29am 
Thats what Mortis says.. you lost but gained something more precious!!
Jeysie Aug 14, 2024 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by Laurykat:
I don't know why the "haggle" word would trigger anyone so much.
I think it's because people jump to assuming the developer is being deceptive as opposed to the character being deceptive.
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