Censorship?

[Катюша]

Has anything been changed from the Japanese version to this Westernised version? Also, are there any differences between this version and the PlayStation 4 version?

[TransparentBlue]

Originally posted by Warxa:

Oneechanbara was never a franchise about "fanservice" except for Z

I'm fairly sure I remember even the first couple games on the PS2 having some heavy handed fanservice, especially with Riho Futaba being a thing.

[ペンギン]

No one should support Sony or Playstation. They're a cancer to the industry and more developers need to just drop Playstation support entirely or expect the inevitable outcome.

For one who's using Denuvo products, it's not a serious statement.

Overall, most forget, Sony is one of the companies we have to thank for the common copyright system and they criminalizing consumers all the day.

Successfull establishing "pirate" concept campain in the early DVD times (the concept has been established until today), installing/deliver rootkits on end consumer devices and Denuvo is also from them.

They also got some strong alliances in relation to collecting societies and patronizing humans more or less over the whole world with a few other companies. It's not only a japanese thing and it's not only Sony or Playstation... or one game related thing... What about other Hardware? Mobile market? Music? They have some more business segments

"Cursing" is something that has to be learned, especially the question: what do you or anyone else do about it?

[ヽ( ・ω・)ﾉ☆ Z T]

Originally posted by Warxa:

I don't know why every time this game is mentioned people ask if it's censored.

maybe it's not that unreasonable to ask if a game is censored when even games that aren't focused on fanservice like Devil May Cry get censored.

Answered your own question.

[Geist]

Another example of Sony crazy censorship is that game Uppers. Originally it was a Vita game and was getting a HD port for PS4 and PC. They ended up cancelling the PS4 version because of Sony.

Yet the let The Last of Us 2 sex scenes rock.

[WhiteLezard]

I'm convinced that the Senran Kagura developing team was tired of the series and Sony's censorship crusade gave them the perfect excuse to abandon the series while keeping their hands clean; SK7 was already vaporware for at least one year before Sony started censoring the anime tiddie.

That's why they immediately started working on Kadagawa Jet Girls and refused to continue working on the Senran series while other developers choose to either move completely to the Switch (Mary Skelter 2, Disgaea 6), avoid the PS4 entirely (the new Gal Gun re-release) or toned down the fanservice (the new Sakura Wars, Onechanbara origins itself).

[whyimnot]

Originally posted by Warxa:

I don't know why every time this game is mentioned people ask if it's censored.

Oneechanbara was never a franchise about "fanservice" except for Z: Kagura and Z2: Chaos

As someone who's actually been around for a while, no. That is a lie from the pit of hell. Not even remotely true. The entire series has maintained the same appeal in fanservice since day 1. The only series you mentioned that have actually increased in "fanservice" since its debut are Senran Kagura (which ironically you tried to claim this series is not) and Devil May Cry, both of which have only gotten more liberal with its erotic displays and "fanservice" with every game.

And the fact that in other games, there is fanservice to be censored and as a result, to ask the question ''will it be censored'' would actually make sense, your entire comment is rendered moot.

[Zess T.]

Should we support this game or not?

[whyimnot]

Originally posted by Zess T.:

Should we support this game or not?

I think it's fine to support at least on Steam. I've heard that it was censored on PC too due to Sony forcing version parity. If that's true, then nah, I would have to turn it down. Otherwise, I'll buy it eventually, whenever the experience destroying bugs get fixed. Regardless, if you're a big fan of the series like I am and feel like you need to get it, but you still care about censorship, I'd say it might be fine regardless as most people playing would just assume that the camera is just lackluster. Personally I would want to find out if anything else was censored, but I think that was the only thing. And again, that's only if the game was also censored on PC.

[Moka'sGamerTag]

Originally posted by VigilantPhase449:

Originally posted by Warxa:

I don't know why every time this game is mentioned people ask if it's censored.

Oneechanbara was never a franchise about "fanservice" except for Z: Kagura and Z2: Chaos which had transformations and costumes that made characters basically naked. The most fanservicy thing before those games was a shower scene in the intro of the third game.

The only sexy elements of Oneechanbara games is that the main character wears a bikini and there are some sexy characters like Reiko and Eva, but that's about it, this isn't Senran Kagura. Do people want 16 years old Saki to be oversexualized or what?

But maybe it's not that unreasonable to ask if a game is censored when even games that aren't focused on fanservice like Devil May Cry get censored.

Censorship also covers more than just fanservice too btw.

violence could have been censored. dialogue, scenes removed, oufits removed, politics added or removed.

ANY deviation from the original can be considered censorship.

and well, can you blame people for asking this? after being burned so many times by companies actually CENSORING like fairy tale for the most recent example.

this is people spending money on products, they have a right to ask if sony's tenrils are infecting said product or not.

and nothing wrong with fans service. ALL game and devs should be aiming for fanservice. since having and catering to FANS = more money for them...

not rocket science, i'd probably wouldnt buy this game if it wasn't fanservicey.

since when did weebs care about violence being censored? whenever blood and gore gets censored in a anime game that also has tits, they always say "Boobs are not censored, so I don't care.", "blood being censored is not "Real" censorship.", or don't say anything about it at all. Anti SJWs have time to ♥♥♥♥♥ about what SJWs are doing in their own house, has time to cry about someone blocking them on Twitter, all their content seems to always come from a nobody on Twitter and have a problem about what they said, but doesn't have time to talk about blood being censored.....Why? Oooh yea because it doesn't fit their narrative and what gets them more money and views.

Censorship is Censorship. Making a dev remove something because "you" don't like it, is still censorship. Like Abby getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in LoU2 for an example.

[Катюша]

Originally posted by BellowD:

always remember censorship is not always focused on fanservice. There's cut content, cut DLC, changed dialogues, no blood, no violence, altered scenes....etc.

Exactly. Censorship is censorship, no matter how minute or insignificant a change is.

Originally posted by Zess T.:

Should we support this game or not?

That's entirely up to you.

[sling_shot]

Originally posted by Warxa:

Oneechanbara was never a franchise about "fanservice" except for Z: Kagura and Z2: Chaos which had transformations and costumes that made characters basically naked.

Dude what? The PS2 games have wild jiggle physics and Aya , in Other Size (the revision of the very first game) wears a tubedress so short she looked like she had nothing on down there

[whyimnot]

Originally posted by Moka'sGamerTag:

since when did weebs care about violence being censored? whenever blood and gore gets censored in a anime game that also has tits, they always say "Boobs are not censored, so I don't care.", "blood being censored is not "Real" censorship.", or don't say anything about it at all. Anti SJWs have time to ♥♥♥♥♥ about what SJWs are doing in their own house, has time to cry about someone blocking them on Twitter, all their content seems to always come from a nobody on Twitter and have a problem about what they said, but doesn't have time to talk about blood being censored.....Why? Oooh yea because it doesn't fit their narrative and what gets them more money and views.

Censorship is Censorship. Making a dev remove something because "you" don't like it, is still censorship. Like Abby getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in LoU2 for an example.

Another lie from the pit of hell smh. "Weebs" (however you even want to define that) care about censorship of ♥♥♥♥ they care about regardless of if it was a line removed or a scene removed. Making a blanket statement as if the greater community only cares about censorship when it's sexual or something is nonsensical and dumb af. Stop being a weirdo and obsessing over mutilation and gore like a smoker feeling like they're being oppressed for being asked not to smoke in an office building. Everyone gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥ when violence gets censored. See literally every anime that came to Cartoon Network and the occasional Resident Evil. Not only does blood and gore hardly ever get censored in any games, especially nowadays (rather it's glorified), but when it does, it's usually in a show where the marketing team is trying to push it for children in the West, in which case most people understand that ♥♥♥♥ happens and you can't win every battle. You're worse than the people you're looning about. Remember, it's not censorship if it never existed in the first place. It's when stuff is created for more mature audiences and is pushed for said audiences and is still censored that people get mainly tend to get pissed off, as that's like 99% of the censorship issues that occur in this community.

Also no one was trying to get Abby's sex scene removed from the last of us 2 lmao. It was just memebait for like 2 months.

Originally posted by クリス:

That's entirely up to you.

I think he fully understands that it his decision at the end of the day to click purchase or not click it. He was asking for more information lol.

[captcool]

Originally posted by VigilantPhase449:

Originally posted by Warxa:

I don't know why every time this game is mentioned people ask if it's censored.

Oneechanbara was never a franchise about "fanservice" except for Z: Kagura and Z2: Chaos which had transformations and costumes that made characters basically naked. The most fanservicy thing before those games was a shower scene in the intro of the third game.

The only sexy elements of Oneechanbara games is that the main character wears a bikini and there are some sexy characters like Reiko and Eva, but that's about it, this isn't Senran Kagura. Do people want 16 years old Saki to be oversexualized or what?

But maybe it's not that unreasonable to ask if a game is censored when even games that aren't focused on fanservice like Devil May Cry get censored.

Censorship also covers more than just fanservice too btw.

violence could have been censored. dialogue, scenes removed, oufits removed, politics added or removed.

ANY deviation from the original can be considered censorship.

and well, can you blame people for asking this? after being burned so many times by companies actually CENSORING like fairy tale for the most recent example.

this is people spending money on products, they have a right to ask if sony's tenrils are infecting said product or not.

and nothing wrong with fans service. ALL game and devs should be aiming for fanservice. since having and catering to FANS = more money for them...

not rocket science, i'd probably wouldnt buy this game if it wasn't fanservicey.

hellz yea man

[Moka'sGamerTag]

Originally posted by whyimnot:

Originally posted by Moka'sGamerTag:

since when did weebs care about violence being censored? whenever blood and gore gets censored in a anime game that also has tits, they always say "Boobs are not censored, so I don't care.", "blood being censored is not "Real" censorship.", or don't say anything about it at all. Anti SJWs have time to ♥♥♥♥♥ about what SJWs are doing in their own house, has time to cry about someone blocking them on Twitter, all their content seems to always come from a nobody on Twitter and have a problem about what they said, but doesn't have time to talk about blood being censored.....Why? Oooh yea because it doesn't fit their narrative and what gets them more money and views.

Censorship is Censorship. Making a dev remove something because "you" don't like it, is still censorship. Like Abby getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in LoU2 for an example.

Remember, it's not censorship if it never existed in the first place.

Originally posted by クリス:

That's entirely up to you.

I think he fully understands that it his decision at the end of the day to click purchase or not click it. He was asking for more information lol.

Oh I'm sorry, a dumb weeb that wants sex in everything, in sacrifice of a "good product", because only tits is art with them apparently. Blood is not art but tits are, blood everywhere is unrealistic and boring....then what is tits everywhere then?.......Not all weebs since saying "weeb" means "all weebs now" sorry.

It's almost like if you make a "good hentai game" you'll get more money. If you make a "good ecchi game" then you'll get more money. House Party is a perfect example of a "good" porn game. Honey Select is a perfect example of a good porn game. Senran Kagura: Estival Versus is a perfect example of a good ecchi game. How come Japan can't do that? How come a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ inde dev on steam can't do that? Oh yea because ♥♥♥♥ you, give me money.

How come normal gamers like me say "that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥." In a product that is already catering to me, and we make it better and get new stuff to buy, especially now? How come in weeb products we get the same ♥♥♥♥ over and over and over again, and paying for the same exact thing more than once and rarely get anything new for 5 years? Why do weebs flock to a product that wasn't catering to them at all but doing it anyway because they see hot girls, then start trying to change the product and get guys removed, then that product becomes ass? And then when you say "this product never had girls and tits as the primary focus" you get attacked by people who never bought the older products.....and when the devs stop focusing on the girls, they cry about it and call them SJWs? It's almost like if you keep letting someone kick you in the nuts and letting them take your money, they will continue to do it.

A Japanese game that has no "titty physics" meanwhile the physics are turned off and never removed from the game in the first place makes news, but a Japanese dev that gave you a DLC saying "you can use it right away once you buy it", then later find out that you still need to beat the game to use the DLC is not news worthy.......a Japanese dev lying to you....so you can buy something.....does not make the news, but titties not moving because it's turned off in the in game setting is news......this is from people that claim to know the product and played the franchise for years and fact check, but don't know that you can turn off titty physics.....meanwhile the people they call "SJWs" do more fact checking and show more proof and video of what they don't like. Anti SJWs just sit there and showing a still image of something they don't play nor know anything about until a bias website they seem to always go on for "fact checking" says "a "woke" company said "insert word I'm offended by but want free speech, if it doesn't offend me". Meanwhile no one should be caring about their "opinion", because it's their "opinion". Something no one seems to know how to do anymore.

If they are not throwing it in my face.....Why Should I Care? If a dumb company calls weebs virgins.....when they call each other that....why should I care. If it doesn't apply to "me", why should I care? You're no different from a SJW if you are getting offended for other people about something that doesn't apply to you. That's why I call anti SJWs the new SJWs, because they do the exact same thing.

Funny the only people I see crying censorship in something where there is no proof of censorship...while censoring something they don't like is anti SJWs. "censorship doesn't exist if you were never censoring anything from the start right?" How is it censorship if the creator wanted to make it their way, especially when they are the original creator and there's zero outside influences? Isn't censorship removing things that you know people don't like or you don't like it yourself? These are the same people that say "let artists make what they want".....while making artists not make what they want, if it's something they don't like BTW. These are the same people that say "companies like money, let them make money", but then get upset when they are catering to a group that they don't like and try to "cancel" them. Going around telling people "this company is woke, don't give them your money or you are a SJW too" is still canceling. Telling people who don't even know who the ♥♥♥♥ you are talking about but know they will listen to you, because someone else said or did something you don't like is still canceling. No different from SJWs. How is making a dev do what you want, and when they do something you don't like, and you get upset about it and threaten to boycott, even when they are doing what they used to do, not censorship? Especially when you are not the target audience that they want or don't want anymore?

You sure? Because that's all I was seeing when Abby was getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥, in context. I'm not talking about the funny memes. How is a funny meme of Woody ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that one chick in Toy Story 2, stating "I don't like this, remove it"?

[whyimnot]

Originally posted by Moka'sGamerTag:

You sure? Because that's all I was seeing when Abby was getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥, in context. I'm not talking about the funny memes. How is a funny meme of Woody ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that one chick in Toy Story 2, stating "I don't like this, remove it"?

Is your vocabulary really so limited or your emotions so controlling that you can't write a level-headed and concise response without blowing it into a 12 paragraph essay that's all over the place lol? Some of us have lives.