Is 6 players in splitscreen in the roadmap?

[supersmo]

Beach Buggy Racing supported 6 player splitscreen on Xbox one.

I see this game specifically targets Windows 10 which would make it possible to use the Windows.Gaming.Input API which supports more than 4 XBox360 or XBox One controllers. I’ve heard reports that Microsoft has added support for more controllers than just XBox controllers but I haven’t checked the list of supported devices.

Another option would be to use XInput and have a toggle toggle to disable XInput and use RawInput or DirectInput API to access the Xbox controllers. It would work with the limitations that rumble doesn’t work and triggers are on the same axis for Xbox controllers when accessed with these APIs.
(Users would need to either disable the global Steam Input support or set the a “Steam input per game settings” to “Forced Off” for BBR2 in order for it to work.)

Would be interesting to hear your thoughts and plans.

[supersmo]

By the way I added the game to the Split Screen Racing curator. It’s listed as 4 player split screen since that’s what seems to be supported at the moment. As I understand 5 player split screen is planned with a keyboard player as the fifth player.

[VectorDeb]

Hi there, sorry for the delayed response to your question. I (Deb) am much quicker on Facebook, Twitter and email.

From Ralf: we plan on supporting 6-way split-screen on the PC. Switching to the Steam Input API is on our roadmap, which will need to happen first. There's a stretch goal of supporting 8 players in split-screen.

[supersmo]

Great :-)
I’ll add it to the More Than 4 Local Multiplayer curator when it supports more than 4 players.

Just a heads up about Steam Input.
If you’re relying on Steam Input for supporting more than 4 players, it uses SDL2 which by default configuration only supports 4 XBox controllers. We can get around the limitation by setting an environmental variable SDL_XINPUT_ENABLED=0 before starting Steam. This works for XBox 360 controllers but not XBox One controllers since they can’t be accessed in the background through the Direct Input API which SteamInput requires. So there’s another hack that Jimbly madewhich is an SDL2build that automatically uses RawInput if there are more than 4 XBox controllers. If we replace Steam’s SDL2.dll with Jimbly’s and start Steam with a special flag to not checksum and download deviating files we can use more than 4 XBox controllers and all XBox One controllers work as well.

Ref: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/morethan4localmultiplayer/discussions/0/1744483505479935659/

[Vector-Ralf]

Hi supersmo,

It turns out the XInput 4 controller limitation does not apply to PS4 or Switch Pro controllers. So all you need to do is find a couple of those and you're good to go.

Also, we'll be releasing an update soon that will enable 8-player split-screen in the Steam version. The only reason that it only supports 6 right now is that some work is needed to allow the 7 and 8 player UI//HUD to anchor correctly when the screen aspect ratio is not 16:9.

[supersmo]

True true, but I already have 9 XBox controllers ;-)
so I'll use one of the hacks we came up with here:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/morethan4localmultiplayer/discussions/0/1744483505479935659/

Great to hear that you're aiming for 8 player split screen!
Have you considered adding multimonitor support as well?
e.g. Two screens with 4 on each screen would be neat.

[Vector-Ralf]

Huh... interesting idea, supersmo. I can't promise anything but I'll definitely add this to our 'cool feature request' list.

[supersmo]

Originally posted by VectorDeb:

Hi there, sorry for the delayed response to your question. I (Deb) am much quicker on Facebook, Twitter and email.

From Ralf: we plan on supporting 6-way split-screen on the PC. Switching to the Steam Input API is on our roadmap, which will need to happen first. There's a stretch goal of supporting 8 players in split-screen.

Game now supports 8 players in split screen :-)

Hm... thought I could mark this post as the answer to the original post but I can't mark my own comment as the answer.

[Mickatroid]

Eight racers across two 60" TVs would be wild. I can see myself ever setting it up, but totally wild.

[Engoni]

Originally posted by Vector-Ralf:

Huh... interesting idea, supersmo. I can't promise anything but I'll definitely add this to our 'cool feature request' list.

Great that the game have 8 player split screen now, its so fun! Have you guys considered making it 9 player, since there is a spot to spare anywhay the way the screen is cut into split screen?

[ERROR_000]

Originally posted by Vector-Ralf:

Hi supersmo,

It turns out the XInput 4 controller limitation does not apply to PS4 or Switch Pro controllers. So all you need to do is find a couple of those and you're good to go.

Also, we'll be releasing an update soon that will enable 8-player split-screen in the Steam version. The only reason that it only supports 6 right now is that some work is needed to allow the 7 and 8 player UI//HUD to anchor correctly when the screen aspect ratio is not 16:9.

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